Rant Why are they killing USAID?

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NWRMidnight

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That's always been the case. Unfortunately not all presidents follow the law. For example, the previous president allowed and abetted the flagrant violation of immigration law tens of millions of times.

Yet he was not held to account ... except at the election box. In fact, I am 💯 certain that's primarily what cost the Democrats the election. Uncontrolled and unfettered revenge illegal migration.

Thanks Biden.
Oh, can you give us context of those "flagrant violations"? We will wait.
 

IronWing

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You and everyone knows the first things Biden did was remove all the policies Don put in place to stop illegal migration that were effective. The next thing you know word got out around the world and tens of millions flooded the country and all we got were lies about Kamala being a border czar and Biden wanting to pay compensation to those were not allowed in during Dons first term. Seriously.

Soft on crime, soft on illegal immigration, catch and release. Election losses guaranteed!
Liar
 

DZero

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In less than 3 months, Republicans have shifted from, steadfast unwavering support of constitutional rules and rights to “So what? Nobody should bellyache over that”.

“Do you think he violated the law?”

Graham: “No, he didn’t. No, well, technically, yeah. But he has the authority to do it,” Graham said


Dems, please remember this the next time a school shooting happens…
Funny story republicans are meeting their demise and is likely that along dems dissapear after Trump. A new wave of radical ideas will be seen as good after that with new names... expecting the "Revolutionaries" or "Patriots" party eventually
 

MtnMan

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How else is Trump going to fund Musk, Bezos and other billionaire tax cuts?
 

hal2kilo

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Funny story republicans are meeting their demise and is likely that along dems dissapear after Trump. A new wave of radical ideas will be seen as good after that with new names... expecting the "Revolutionaries" or "Patriots" party eventually
Huh?
 

DZero

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Currently the republicans are divided into the traditional ones and the trumpist, the latter are in charge. So expect a decline in the Republic Party once the Trump era is over.

I saw this on other countries. When a leader overtakes everything and makes it radical and the moderate can't control it, that party is over.
 

outriding

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FelixDeCat

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which were created by right wing media.

stay on topic and if you wonder off get your facts right.
Bidens put Kamla in charge of the border. It was just a smokescreen to allow the worst illegal immigration crisis under his watch.

And here you are still defending it. Why?
 
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fskimospy

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Bidens put Kamla in charge of the border. It was just a smokescreen to allow the worst illegal immigration crisis under his watch.

And here you are still defending it. Why?
Not sure where you got all this nonsense information from but you're being lied to by someone. Don't let them dupe you!

Regardless I don't think you answered the question if you feel the president no longer needs to follow the law and can usurp the power of Congress.
 
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nakedfrog

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Amused

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So now Elmo along with his Nazi buddy Mike Benz are running with the misinformation that USAID funded media orgs and paid for news.

NO. They funded charities created by some media orgs like BBC Media Action that provided food and medical care to the needy around the world.

This is BLATANT misinformation to feed the cult narrative that the US government controls the world media.

Fuck these guys. They even post screen shots from BBC media action's website that FUCKING SPELLS THIS OUT for them and they STILL tell their brain dead followers that USAID was paying off media orgs.
 
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fskimospy

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So now Elmo along with his Nazi buddy Mike Benz are running with the misinformation that USAID funded media orgs and paid for news.

NO. They funded charities created by some media orgs like BBC Media Action that provided food and medical care to the needy around the world.

This is BLATANT misinformation to feed the cult narrative that the US government controls the world media.

Fuck these guys. They even post screen shots from BBC media action's website that FUCKING SPELLS THIS OUT for them and they STILL tell their brain dead followers that USAID was paying off media orgs.
Because they know the average person isn't going to check their blizzard of lies and neither will most news organizations.
 

outriding

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Bidens put Kamla in charge of the border. It was just a smokescreen to allow the worst illegal immigration crisis under his watch.

And here you are still defending it. Why?

No that is wrong..

Biden tasked Kamala to work with central / south amercia countries to see how they could keep people in their own country instead of moving to seek greener pastures



Ok so name the decision that Biden made that created the immigration crisis.


You realize that Biden put forth one of the largest border bills ever and the GOP shot it down..

Name a decision that Trump did that would have stopped the border crisis

You can fuck off about the immigration crisis when you voted for the GOP / Trump.
 

Pens1566

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No that is wrong..

Biden tasked Kamala to work with central / south amercia countries to see how they could keep people in their own country instead of moving to seek greener pastures



Ok so name the decision that Biden made that created the immigration crisis.


You realize that Biden put forth one of the largest border bills ever and the GOP shot it down..

Name a decision that Trump did that would have stopped the border crisis

You can fuck off about the immigration crisis when you voted for the GOP / Trump.

Or just actually define "the immigration crisis".
 

trenchfoot

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Or just actually define "the immigration crisis".

I asked a MAGAT friend of mine in what way was he directly affected by the "immigrant crisis". It drew a blank look on his face and me picturing the pertinent FOX talking points he was checking off in his head. So then I rattled off a few reasons why the people who constitute this "immigrant crisis" help keep produce, meat prices etc. from skyrocketing due to labor shortages and a kick up in wages that US citizens would demand for doing such work and why there weren't any concerted efforts from ICE to mitigate such use of imported slave labor along with other such pertinent facts that he would consider. All I got back from him was the usual word for word baseless prattle coming straight out of the GOP Ministry of Propaganda of which was so easy to rebuke and debunk.

In essence, Trump's apparatchik's use of vapid trigger verbiage is all that it is and when his stooges rely on that as their main line of defense well, it's like positioning a weak line of defense against a barrage of facts and truthful figures without providing anything to defend themselves except hurling insults and quoting a few of Trump's favorite one liners.
 

Pens1566

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I asked a MAGAT friend of mine in what way was he directly affected by the "immigrant crisis". It drew a blank look on his face and me picturing the pertinent FOX talking points he was checking off in his head. So then I rattled off a few reasons why the people who constitute this "immigrant crisis" help keep produce, meat prices etc. from skyrocketing due to labor shortages and a kick up in wages that US citizens would demand for doing such work and why there weren't any concerted efforts from ICE to mitigate such use of imported slave labor along with other such pertinent facts that he would consider. All I got back from him was the usual word for word baseless prattle coming straight out of the GOP Ministry of Propaganda of which was so easy to rebuke and debunk.

In essence, Trump's apparatchik's use of vapid trigger verbiage is all that it is and when his stooges rely on that as their main line of defense well, it's like positioning a weak line of defense against a barrage of facts and truthful figures without providing anything to defend themselves except hurling insults and quoting a few of Trump's favorite one liners.

Exactly. It's a fucking made up issue. Undocumented immigrants are a net gain for the economy/country, have lower per capita crime rates, and generally aren't negatively impacting ANYONE that is bitching non-stop about it.
 

Amused

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Because they know the average person isn't going to check their blizzard of lies and neither will most news organizations.

Surprisingly, none of the MSM is even covering these claims. Not even Fox news is trying to pass it off as real.

The MSM NEEDS to call Elmo out on this. This is part of Mike Nazi Benz's "blob" narrative. It's literally a cult ideology narrative that says ALL the media is being paid to lie to you by hidden US forces.

Mike Benz has made the rounds with this claim for a few years now. On every right-wing media outlet. The guy is a verifiable Nazi.
 
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UNCjigga

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For fucks sake, if you have half a brain, please read up on what “akshually” happened with border policy under Biden: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-immigration-legacy

Biden actually “doubled down” on Trump’s policies! That’s why undocumented advocates were so upset with him. The policies he rescinded were ones that had been challenged in court (under Trump) while judges’ decisions came under Biden (see Title 42 denial of entry policy.)

Biden increased LEGAL immigration and provided Temporary Protected Status to some, while REDUCING illegal migration. The reason Fox and Friends had wadded panties was because ENCOUNTERS at the border were surging. That’s because asylum seekers were actually doing what was asked and registering at a checkpoint vs. crossing the border illegally and disappearing into the night. The biggest problem was that they couldn’t expedite these asylum hearings, nor could they legally detain asylum seekers past 60 days or something, and they couldn’t deny entry based on Title 42 anymore. So you had this revolving door effect and no remain in Mexico policy.
 
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VashHT

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Yeah right wingers are just calling asylum fake now and saying it shouldn't count and anyone here under it should be deported. It's kind of funny because right wingers like to talk about how dangerous and terrible the countries people coming from are but then turn around and say the people fleeing to the US don't need asylum. Only reason I've heard is that it's not fair to immigrants going through our terrible and lengthy normal immigration process.
 

fskimospy

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Surprisingly, none of the MSM is even covering these claims. Not even Fox news is trying to pass it off as real.

The MSM NEEDS to call Elmo out on this. This is part of Mike Nazi Benz's "blob" narrative. It's literally a cult ideology narrative that says ALL the media is being paid to lie to you by hidden US forces.

Mike Benz has made the rounds with this claim for a few years now. On every right-wing media outlet. The guy is a verifiable Nazi.
One of the most interesting/awful parts about Russian propaganda techniques, which are being used here, is the goal isn’t to convince you that the Russians (Musk) are right. It’s to make it so the average person just gives up on knowing what is true or not because the blizzard of lies is too hard to navigate.
 

nakedfrog

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For fucks sake, if you have half a brain, please read up on what “akshually” happened with border policy under Biden: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-immigration-legacy

Biden actually “doubled down” on Trump’s policies! That’s why undocumented advocates were so upset with him. The policies he rescinded were ones that had been challenged in court (under Trump) while judges’ decisions came under Biden (see Title 42 denial of entry policy.)
I'm afraid 🤡will have difficulty with your first qualifier there.

 

FelixDeCat

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For fucks sake, if you have half a brain, please read up on what “akshually” happened with border policy under Biden: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-immigration-legacy

Biden actually “doubled down” on Trump’s policies! That’s why undocumented advocates were so upset with him. The policies he rescinded were ones that had been challenged in court (under Trump) while judges’ decisions came under Biden (see Title 42 denial of entry policy.)

Biden increased LEGAL immigration and provided Temporary Protected Status to some, while REDUCING illegal migration. The reason Fox and Friends had wadded panties was because ENCOUNTERS at the border were surging. That’s because asylum seekers were actually doing what was asked and registering at a checkpoint vs. crossing the border illegally and disappearing into the night. The biggest problem was that they couldn’t expedite these asylum hearings, nor could they legally detain asylum seekers past 60 days or something, and they couldn’t deny entry based on Title 42 anymore. So you had this revolving door effect and no remain in Mexico policy.

Dude, this is not "doubling down", this is TEARING DOWN effective border policy:


Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy​


January 21, 20212:45 AM ET



And he also stopped border wall construction and tried to sell the unerected pieces for scrap!

04/30/2021 04:03 PM EDT

President Joe Biden is canceling further construction of the wall along the U.S. and Mexico border, the Department of Defense announced Friday.




Updated: Dec 30, 2024 / 09:17 AM CST

DALLAS (NewsNation) — A federal judge in Texas has ruled that the Biden administration must stop selling border wall materials that the outgoing president has refused to install.




...and this is why Democrats will not win elections, until they own up to the truth. They failed America. If they ever want to win another election they must learn their lesson.
 
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