Why are urinals so expensive?

[Turin39789]

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[mugs]

If it's brown flush it down, if it's yellow let it mellow

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

This was my thought. Good luck when you go to sell it.

With dual-flush toilets, there really isn't a need either.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

ballers son, ballers. In a single wide you probably want to stick with multi-use items like a toilet bowl, a shower/tub combo etc.

When you expand your dwelling more options open up.

 

[iGas]

Originally posted by: Engineer
$84.xx ($112.xx shipped).

The OP will faint once he find out how much urinal valves costs. And, he would go postal to get plumber/carpenter/drywaller/painter to install it, beside permit application & inspection from the city.

PS. Urinal flush valve requires 3/4" piping directly from the main supply branch, and it supply lines shall not share/supply other fixture/s. Most flush vales requires 40 PSI or more to operates.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: iGas

Originally posted by: Engineer
$84.xx ($112.xx shipped).

The OP will faint once he find out how much urinal valves costs. And, he would go postal to get plumber/carpenter/drywaller/painter to install it, beside permit application & inspection from the city.

PS. Urinal flush valve requires 3/4" piping directly from the main supply branch, and it supply lines shall not share/supply other fixture/s. Most flush vales requires 40 PSI or more to operates.

Is that a problem? I thought most water pressures were much higher. Mine is near 80.

 

[skyking]

When it gets flushed it will overload the capacity of any anti-scald feature in a nearby shower. Someone will get burned unless you have oversized supply lines to the home. Just a thought.
We were plumbing a credit union with 6 toilets and a couple of urinals this week. the utilities contractor had run a 1" poly supply line under the footing, and we told them that was a no-go. We replaced it with a 1.5" on T&M, since the flush valves would not work properly in that scenario.

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
buy some sheet metal, tin snips, and a few PVC pipes. i bet you could build it yourself for under $30

Better use 316SS as pisswater will corrode galvanized steel in no time.

LOL. It eats the paint off of the metal too (side shields that are painted have small rust spots where the piss splatters)!

Piss splatters. Yup, just what I want to clean up in my bathroom.

 

[iGas]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: iGas

Originally posted by: Engineer
$84.xx ($112.xx shipped).

The OP will faint once he find out how much urinal valves costs. And, he would go postal to get plumber/carpenter/drywaller/painter to install it, beside permit application & inspection from the city.

PS. Urinal flush valve requires 3/4" piping directly from the main supply branch, and it supply lines shall not share/supply other fixture/s. Most flush vales requires 40 PSI or more to operates.

Is that a problem? I thought most water pressures were much higher. Mine is near 80.

Yes that is a problem because a lot of the common flush valves can requires as much as 60-75 PSI. And, good luck at getting flow pressure that high at the end of a 1" branch If you are one of the lucky person that have over built 1" supply main in the house.

Newer plumbing code call for 3/4" water main for residential usage, and most houses pre date 1980s are 1/2" supply main. That said replumbing the house main and supply from the street would cost the OP at least 10K, total cost would be close to 15K just to put in a urinal.

PS. I'm assuming that you are not a Mechanical Engineer.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: iGas

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: iGas

Originally posted by: Engineer
$84.xx ($112.xx shipped).

The OP will faint once he find out how much urinal valves costs. And, he would go postal to get plumber/carpenter/drywaller/painter to install it, beside permit application & inspection from the city.

PS. Urinal flush valve requires 3/4" piping directly from the main supply branch, and it supply lines shall not share/supply other fixture/s. Most flush vales requires 40 PSI or more to operates.

Is that a problem? I thought most water pressures were much higher. Mine is near 80.

Yes that is a problem because a lot of the common flush valves can requires as much as 60-75 PSI. And, good luck at getting flow pressure that high at the end of a 1" branch If you are one of the lucky person that have over built 1" supply main in the house.

Newer plumbing code call for 3/4" water main for residential usage, and most houses pre date 1980s are 1/2" supply main. That said replumbing the the house main and supply from the street would cost the OP at least 10K, total cost would be close to 15K just to put in a urinal.

PS. I'm assuming that you are not a Mechanical Engineer.

LOL. I'm not but I was assuming that you were stating that houses have below 40 psi standard water pressures coming into the house (not flowing pressure, static pressure), hence the confusion. I see your point very clearly now. No need to jab my engineering (or lack of engineering) skills!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: skyking


Piss splatters. Yup, just what I want to clean up in my bathroom.

And you think it doesn't splatter out of your toilet (unless you sit and piss)? :laugh:

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: skyking


Piss splatters. Yup, just what I want to clean up in my bathroom.

And you think it doesn't splatter out of your toilet (unless you sit and piss)? :laugh:

Hahaahaaaa!

 

[Old Hippie]

Don't forget the automatic flush valve!

No home should be without one!

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: l0cke

Originally posted by: Anubis
Toilets cost the same amount

Toilets are bigger

Hint: why do large shirts cost the same as small shirts? Material isn't the only cost that goes into manufacturing something.


"They are not that complicated"
You're right, they're not as complicated as a toilet. For what it's worth, toilets are quite a bit more complicated to make than most people realize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaUFN-q3_mk

 

[daveymark]

Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: l0cke

Originally posted by: Anubis
Toilets cost the same amount

Toilets are bigger

Hint: why do large shirts cost the same as small shirts? Material isn't the only cost that goes into manufacturing something.


"They are not that complicated"
You're right, they're not as complicated as a toilet. For what it's worth, toilets are quite a bit more complicated to make than most people realize.

I watched a program (don't remember name) a few years ago showing how a toilet was made. Made in two halves and then hand blended together, smoothed with water and then fired in a furnace. Cool stuff.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: l0cke

Originally posted by: Anubis
Toilets cost the same amount

Toilets are bigger

Hint: why do large shirts cost the same as small shirts? Material isn't the only cost that goes into manufacturing something.


"They are not that complicated"
You're right, they're not as complicated as a toilet. For what it's worth, toilets are quite a bit more complicated to make than most people realize.

I watched a program (don't remember name) a few years ago showing how a toilet was made. Made in two halves and then hand blended together, smoothed with water and then fired in a furnace. Cool stuff.

My freshman year of ceramic engineering dealt with stuff like design/manufacturing of toilets. Thanks to 3-D rendering (which has only been around for a little over 2 decades), I think a lot of people would overlook how difficult the design process is/was. I linked to a video of what I think you are talking about in the other post. The video makes it look a lot easier than it is.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

My freshman year of ceramic engineering dealt with stuff like design/manufacturing of toilets. Thanks to 3-D rendering (which has only been around for a little over 2 decades), I think a lot of people would overlook how difficult the design process is/was. I linked to a video of what I think you are talking about in the other post. The video makes it look a lot easier than it is.

:beer: I've been looking for a video exactly like that for the past few minutes!

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: Engineer

LOL. It eats the paint off of the metal too (side shields that are painted have small rust spots where the piss splatters)!

They make stainless steel partitions ($$$) as well as resin ones that are corrosion proof. Of course that does not stop the drunktards from trying to rip them off the walls! The resin ones have an advantage that wires can be run in them to shock those trying to vandalize them! :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c388YySXVOg&

clearly we need composite urinals!

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: iGas

Yes that is a problem because a lot of the common flush valves can requires as much as 60-75 PSI. And, good luck at getting flow pressure that high at the end of a 1" branch If you are one of the lucky person that have over built 1" supply main in the house.

Newer plumbing code call for 3/4" water main for residential usage, and most houses pre date 1980s are 1/2" supply main. That said replumbing the house main and supply from the street would cost the OP at least 10K, total cost would be close to 15K just to put in a urinal.

PS. I'm assuming that you are not a Mechanical Engineer.

If he wants that pisser that bad he could install a booster pump. :laugh:

 

[Safeway]

Urinals don't stink too much, just pee where the water streams.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Urinals don't stink too much, just pee where the water streams.

They need mints. And to the guys that don't flush that's nasty and you should be ashamed of yourself for not cleaning up after yourselves!

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: Safeway
Urinals don't stink too much, just pee where the water streams.

They need mints. And to the guys that don't flush that's nasty and you should be ashamed of yourself for not cleaning up after yourselves!

The new sensor urinals that auto flush are nice. I bet they cost a fortune.

 

[acheron]

Presumably you already have a sink, why do you need a urinal?

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

The new sensor urinals that auto flush are nice. I bet they cost a fortune.

Yes they do but one can add a IR Sloan valve to any toilet/urinal to make it automatic.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: mugs
If it's brown flush it down, if it's yellow let it mellow

You SOB. I was going to post that!