Why are urinals so expensive?

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Rubycon

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: l0cke
Originally posted by: Anubis
Toilets cost the same amount

Toilets are bigger

Hint: why do large shirts cost the same as small shirts? Material isn't the only cost that goes into manufacturing something.


"They are not that complicated"
You're right, they're not as complicated as a toilet. For what it's worth, toilets are quite a bit more complicated to make than most people realize.

I watched a program (don't remember name) a few years ago showing how a toilet was made. Made in two halves and then hand blended together, smoothed with water and then fired in a furnace. Cool stuff.

My freshman year of ceramic engineering dealt with stuff like design/manufacturing of toilets. Thanks to 3-D rendering (which has only been around for a little over 2 decades), I think a lot of people would overlook how difficult the design process is/was. I linked to a video of what I think you are talking about in the other post. The video makes it look a lot easier than it is.

The same thing could be said about tires. They're just rubber! :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: daveymark
Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

In the event that you can't achieve success in life, at least you can take solace in the fact that your existence doubles as a cautionary example to others.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

Imagine waking up and knocking down all those piss laden jars! That would be a mellofahess.
 

oogabooga

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they have to pay a lot in royalties to the guy (or more likely a woman) who designed them to splash you everywhere when you use them.
 

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

Wow, you're a real life Eric Cartman. impressive.
 

magomago

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Cause you don't replace them every year? Since you pretty much buy one and that is about it then the cost is higher?


Engineer: they haven't been outsourced probably because the weight is too heavy to transport these things from China
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: daveymark
Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

In the event that you can't achieve success in life, at least you can take solace in the fact that your existence doubles as a cautionary example to others.

If by success you mean becoming a level 32 mage, then success has already been achieved. To be able to achieve success AND solace, is a rarity. I can only say that a modicum of dedication, hard work and sacrifice are the main contributing factors. Feel free to PM me for more life lessons, as one area I will gladly assist you with is your apparently firm grasp of credulity
 

Epic Fail

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Free.

We have one of these mounted next to our gaming rig for those all night WoW/TF2 sessions when stepping away means a loss for the clan.

:disgust::laugh:
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: iGas
Originally posted by: Engineer
$84.xx ($112.xx shipped).

The OP will faint once he find out how much urinal valves costs. And, he would go postal to get plumber/carpenter/drywaller/painter to install it, beside permit application & inspection from the city.

PS. Urinal flush valve requires 3/4" piping directly from the main supply branch, and it supply lines shall not share/supply other fixture/s. Most flush vales requires 40 PSI or more to operates.

Is that a problem? I thought most water pressures were much higher. Mine is near 80.

most cities here in the metro valley only guarantee 25 or better PSI. most run around 45 at your house tho, and in some areas up to 65. i havent run into one yet that will guarantee 40+PSI at the house (this relates to what i do for a living)
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: magomago
Cause you don't replace them every year? Since you pretty much buy one and that is about it then the cost is higher?


Engineer: they haven't been outsourced probably because the weight is too heavy to transport these things from China

LOL, if they can transport drywall from China and somehow make it cheaper including shipping, the can ship a toilet.

On second thought, they fvcked up the drywall. Don't need a toilet that put out more dangerous gas than I do! :Q
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: l0cke
Originally posted by: Anubis
Toilets cost the same amount

Toilets are bigger

Hint: why do large shirts cost the same as small shirts? Material isn't the only cost that goes into manufacturing something.


"They are not that complicated"
You're right, they're not as complicated as a toilet. For what it's worth, toilets are quite a bit more complicated to make than most people realize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaUFN-q3_mk

all the stores i have been to charge more for 2X and up. 2 bucks more.

 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist


most cities here in the metro valley only guarantee 25 or better PSI. most run around 45 at your house tho, and in some areas up to 65. i havent run into one yet that will guarantee 40+PSI at the house (this relates to what i do for a living)

When I measured mine at 80, I thought that I might need a pressure regulator. Still not sure that I don't as some of my pipes bang and valves sound bad when kicking on/off. Lowering down to 60 might do my pipes good.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: hanoverphist


most cities here in the metro valley only guarantee 25 or better PSI. most run around 45 at your house tho, and in some areas up to 65. i havent run into one yet that will guarantee 40+PSI at the house (this relates to what i do for a living)

When I measured mine at 80, I thought that I might need a pressure regulator. Still not sure that I don't as some of my pipes bang and valves sound bad when kicking on/off. Lowering down to 60 might do my pipes good.

i would love to have 60psi at my house. i get about 45, but my friend in a different area only gets about 30 most of the time.

i was wondering, why are you looking at a pressure flush urinal? why not try to get one that is fed from a tank? that wouldnt have the pressure needs at all, and youo wouldnt have to change any of your piping, regardless of the main size.


edit:

my city is all booster fed, and the stations arent very close. with gravity fed systems the tanks are usually at least 30 ft off the neighborhood level and give much better pressure overall. flat lands like mesa dont have that choice without putting up large towers. theres one in my neighborhood, but i think its been decommissioned.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Get a low-flow toilet with a half-flush option.

Most terrible idea ever. Either get an old school big flush toilet or a pressurized commercial toilet, but never, ever get a half ass low flow toilet. You won't be able to flush a cat turd.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: mugs
If it's brown flush it down, if it's yellow let it mellow

You SOB. I was going to post that!

i hate it when people leave pee in the toilet. what if i have a to take a dump? i have to flush it, wait for the water to settle then shit. sometimes the shit is emergent. unless you guys like to shit on your pee and enjoy pee splatter up your ass and balls when the shit splashes the water.
 

Fayd

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

think for a moment.

if you have a urinal in your house, you can actually use it while you have an erection. without any toilet gymnastics early in the morning.

beyond that, if you know where to piss, then it doesnt spatter.
 
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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

think for a moment.

if you have a urinal in your house, you can actually use it while you have an erection. without any toilet gymnastics early in the morning.

beyond that, if you know where to piss, then it doesnt spatter.

I could piss into a water bottle from 10 yards away with an erection. But I'm a piss ninja; I guess it's harder for normal people.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: hanoverphist


most cities here in the metro valley only guarantee 25 or better PSI. most run around 45 at your house tho, and in some areas up to 65. i havent run into one yet that will guarantee 40+PSI at the house (this relates to what i do for a living)

When I measured mine at 80, I thought that I might need a pressure regulator. Still not sure that I don't as some of my pipes bang and valves sound bad when kicking on/off. Lowering down to 60 might do my pipes good.

The pressure at my parents house was 135 PSI! It broke our water heater before anyone realized it was that high. Our whole neighborhood had to get regulators installed on the main lines to each house.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Get a low-flow toilet with a half-flush option.

Most terrible idea ever. Either get an old school big flush toilet or a pressurized commercial toilet, but never, ever get a half ass low flow toilet. You won't be able to flush a cat turd.

Please stop with the ignorance. New low-flow toilet works just as well if not better than old toilets. My Toto blows aways any regular toilet I've ever had with it's wider trap. Never had a clog.

Now, you can get them with a dual-flush option allowing you to use only half a tank.

Note, the OP is also trying to save water.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

think for a moment.

if you have a urinal in your house, you can actually use it while you have an erection. without any toilet gymnastics early in the morning.

beyond that, if you know where to piss, then it doesnt spatter.

yea in stead of spatter it just has a long dry surface of piss film. works ok for public use rapid cycling and constant cleaning . unless u got a maid it doesn't work
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan


The pressure at my parents house was 135 PSI! It broke our water heater before anyone realized it was that high. Our whole neighborhood had to get regulators installed on the main lines to each house.

Damn!!! :shocked: Bring in cold water to heater at 135 PSI, heat it up and cause the pressure to rise...if relief valve sticks....boom, right out of the ceiling!

Damn, that's very, very high pressure.
 

iGas

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Service pressure in my area range from mid 60-130 PSI in my town, however during high usage period the city do not guarantee 65 PSI static. Pressure regulator dial street pressure (can be as high as 180 PSI in high density residential area) )down to below 80- PSI to assure that faucet valves doesn't fail (most faucets valves are designed to operate up to 80 PSI).

Most institutions,and high rises employs booster pump/s to increase working pressure.

Water compresses very little at extremely high pressure, therefore it is considered to be incompressible.
Water will occupies 1700 times by volume when it change into steam.
135 PSI and hot water heater isn't going to blow up your hot water tank as Myth Buster suggested because the temperature cut off is set to cut out at max 200F, however plumbing code & safety regulations only allow max of 180F (many temperature cut off, be it temperature & pressure relief valve, bi-metal, or bulb type temperature regulator have a max cut off setting at 180F). Default setting on hot water heater is 140F due to plumbing code, and hot water tank relief valve blow off setting is 150 PSI. In layman term, Your hot water tank will never go off like what happened in Myth Buster, unless every safety devices are tampered.
 

DannyLove

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Insomniator
What kind of an idiot puts a urinal in their house?

This was my thought. Good luck when you go to sell it.

if its not difficult to install it shouldn't be difficult to remove. I don't see how this is a problem or enough to call the dude an idiot. If I lived solo and it was a bachelor pad, why the fuck not?
 
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