Why are we still with Fusetalk?

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: iwodo
When are we going to VB? Any news?

At best, in a few weeks (maybe 8?) and at worst, who knows?
Where did you hear this info?

He's a contortionist and can place his ear very near certain parts of his body that normal people otherwise couldn't. You could say he has an "inside" source.

J/K man, I could not bring myself to resist!!!

Where did you hear that from?
 

yllus

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It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.
 

JJChicken

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Apr 9, 2007
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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: iwodo
When are we going to VB? Any news?

At best, in a few weeks (maybe 8?) and at worst, who knows?
Where did you hear this info?

He's a contortionist and can place his ear very near certain parts of his body that normal people otherwise couldn't. You could say he has an "inside" source.

J/K man, I could not bring myself to resist!!!

Where did you hear that from?

I have my sources
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Someone should nominate you to help them...

 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Can we get a preview of what it'll look like then
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
FYI Derek mentioned it in one of his posts recently.

I am going with Keys (it's always a good bet).
Derek's posts in the last 50 days.

Quoted from that link:

That is a very good summary of how AnandTech wants piracy issues handled at this point. Thanks, esquared, for condensing a lot of discussion down to some easy to digest bullet points. I think that helps a lot.

From the time the guidelines went live to now, we have refined a lot of internal policy based on the needs of the forum. While most of this is based on interpretation and clarification of what the guidelines actually mean, I do understand that there are many issues that are still a little unclear to the membership, especially regarding enforcement.

After the move to vB (seriously, it's happening ... we're looking at a few weeks after the holidays are behind us), I will try and spend some time with the guidelines and update and clarify them to help enlighten the membership as to the intent and meaning of some of the guidelines, as well as how we intend to enforce some things. I'd like to include examples, but I'm not sure that I will be able to sort all that out while keeping it readable (it's of no use if it's so convoluted that no one reads it or understands it).

But I would like to add something to this discussion ... As Perk said, I'm a bit libertarian in my philosophy, but I know we can't implement idealism on the forums and have it work. There do need to be some limitations in order to keep things functioning as we have them set up. With the launch of vB, we will have the ability to add and alter some of the way we handle enforcement and punishment (because vB is much better at those kinds of things), and I've already mentioned that I'll be trying to clarify the guidelines a little later as well ... but if people are discussing things that they should be allowed to do with their own property then I have no problem allowing that.

What does that mean?

academic discussions of media and software archival (how to backup) and management (how to store and use backups) are permitted. the discussion of practices that could be considered fair use are permitted. sometimes these discussions include topics that overlap with piracy (which is unfortunate), and thus it is wise to make it clear what the real topic of discussion is.

These are explicitly not allowed no matter the topic: posting cd keys (even fake ones -- if you say it's a cd key we'll believe you without testing it and you'll have to deal with the consequences), cd key / serial number generators (although academic discussion of algorithms is still okay), links to these things, or links to copyrighted software and media for which the owner has not chosen to distribute the works freely.

Things may evolve down the line -- we are always evaluating our policies, but this is where we are right now.

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CorCentral

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How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?
 

Gillbot

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

Less FT bugs and security issues would be a plus for me.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Gillbot
Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

Less FT bugs and security issues would be a plus for me.

And hopefully, the whack the troll feature will work

 

olds

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Gillbot
Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

Less FT bugs and security issues would be a plus for me.

And hopefully, the whack the troll feature will work

Thanks. But I am still retired.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Gillbot
Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

Less FT bugs and security issues would be a plus for me.

And hopefully, the whack the troll feature will work

Thanks. But I am still retired.

Freelance Consultant?

 

KLin

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Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Why can't vBulletin be ran on a Windows server?
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

100% better search function for one.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: KLin
Why can't vBulletin be ran on a Windows server?

Because it's grammatically impossible!
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Someone should nominate you to help them...

I was all jazzed up to do it but some family issues came up and I totally dropped the ball on getting back to Derek. I'm going to have to apologize to him for that one of these days.

Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Why can't vBulletin be ran on a Windows server?

Technically it could be, as at least the newest version of IIS supports PHP. It'd be silly, though. If you're going to run a site of this size you want to do it on the best-fit hardware and software. Running a PHP-based site on Linux is so well-researched and optimized that it'd be crazy to not do the same here.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Someone should nominate you to help them...

I was all jazzed up to do it but some family issues came up and I totally dropped the ball on getting back to Derek. I'm going to have to apologize to him for that one of these days.

Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Why can't vBulletin be ran on a Windows server?

Technically it could be, as at least the newest version of IIS supports PHP. It'd be silly, though. If you're going to run a site of this size you want to do it on the best-fit hardware and software. Running a PHP-based site on Linux is so well-researched and optimized that it'd be crazy to not do the same here.


Sounds like we will be running it on a Windows 98 box then.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Someone should nominate you to help them...

I was all jazzed up to do it but some family issues came up and I totally dropped the ball on getting back to Derek. I'm going to have to apologize to him for that one of these days.

Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: yllus
It's perfectly understandable that the transition is taking this long, if not another six months.

Consider that a lot of the staff that runs this forum are volunteers, that the size of this forum's database is enormous and has to be converted from FuseTalk format to vBulletin, and that this move means switching operating systems (Windows 2k3 to Linux). A lot of planning, testing and research is going to be needed before anything happens.

Why can't vBulletin be ran on a Windows server?

Technically it could be, as at least the newest version of IIS supports PHP. It'd be silly, though. If you're going to run a site of this size you want to do it on the best-fit hardware and software. Running a PHP-based site on Linux is so well-researched and optimized that it'd be crazy to not do the same here.


Sounds like we will be running it on a Windows 98 box then.

What's wrong with Windows ME? I hear you can achieve uptimes on the order of hours with it, sounds like it'll fit the bill perfectly

 
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

A working code feature
Forum will load in Chrome after making a post (even without restarting the browser :roll: )
Quick reply will display in IE
No more "Oops!" errors
Massively improved backend for the moderators
(Hopefully) a limit in nested quotes
.
.
.
and thousands more bug fixes. FT is horrible software.
 

newnameman

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: CorCentral
How much better will the forums be after the switch. What changes/improvements over Fusetalk will we see?

A working code feature
Forum will load in Chrome after making a post (even without restarting the browser :roll: )
Quick reply will display in IE
No more "Oops!" errors
Massively improved backend for the moderators
(Hopefully) a limit in nested quotes
.
.
.
and thousands more bug fixes. FT is horrible software.
Those aren't bugs, they're part of the Fusetalk charm.
 

hclarkjr

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i wonder what will come first the release of duke nukem forever or the move to vbulletin?
 
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