Originally posted by: jagec
glider wings are really skinny too. It's an efficiency thing.
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Originally posted by: dkozloski
It's all about aspect ratio. A propeller is a rotating wing. A high aspect ratio(L:W) wing gives the best lift distribution and lowest spanwise flow. The limtations on how far it can be carried are structural.
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Regarding the OP's question: It's all about aerodynamics. And nothing about torques, bearings or structures.
Lowest span wise flow! Forget all that radial vs axial torque nonsense.
The mission is to suck the energy out of the wind. As much as possible. For that reason you want the wind to travel from leading edge to trailing edge as much as possible.
Remember, you get to choose the speed of the blade.
So you don't need a large wing area. You don't need a big torque. Energy = torque * revs. Make more revs, sweep more air instead. Cut more and thinner slices of wind. And, actually, you get considerable axial force from this but, unlike what many of you speculated, this is irrelevant.
(besides, you can't escape this axial force anyway, whatever you do. If you make a more inefficient turbine you will need a larger for the same energy. More drag, more axial force.)
Thinner slices, higher blade speed means less angle = higher glide ratio in glider plane terms.
A glider wants to achieve as high glide ratio as possible. This is achieved by maximum lift/drag ratio. And this again is not achieved with a large wing area. Lowest sink rate is achieved with large area. And highest lift. But that is not what is wanted. lift/drag ratio is wanted. This represents the optimum energy conversion.
And this is achieved at higher airflow speeds, higher sink rates, higher wing loading, smaller wing.
With the exception of having increasing speed over the span towards the tips, propellers and wind turbines represent an equivalent problem of optimization as glider wings. It's the same.
So you get a moderate area instead of large because that is actually the aerodynamic optimum.
And you get that area distributed in a long narrow wing because you must minimize spanwise flow. Spanwise flow results in vortex and turbulence at the tip, pure energy loss.
I have no intentions to provide you with a complete course in aerodynamics, so I'll limit myself to telling you that the reason your box fan has wider blades has to do with scaling and a thing called 'Reynolds number'. It essentially describes the conditions of the airflow and that is dependant on the speed and chord length of your air foil. Basically, your fan is too small and rotates too slow. A wider chord compensates because it makes your fan 'less small'. ...to the airflow.