Why ATI cards are Soviet cards?

[Gamer X]

1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.

 

[Paktu]

In Soviet Russia, card buys YOU!!!

 

[Corporate Thug]

what a waste of bandwidth

 

[Cookie Monster]

An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.

 

[Powermoloch]

Lol what a troll. I have a x850xt agp, and i'm enjoying every minute of it

 

[Gamer X]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Lol what a troll. I have a x850xt agp, and i'm enjoying every minute of it

I'm not a troll,in fact I'd love to see ATI on par with nvidia,and I didn't say that ATI cards were S3s ,your a x850xt is sure a good card

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.

Gotta disagree. More reliable, definately. But, if you're out in the field, you want a lightweight weapon, not a cinder block. M16 is lighter and much much much muchx100 more accurate. Plus, I'd rather have a weapon that wounded (like the M16) soldiers, rather than killed them. If you kill a soldier, that's one man out of the war. You wound one and you've taken 3-4 soldiers off the battlefield in order to evacuate/treat the wounded.

 

[Gamer X]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.

Gotta disagree. More reliable, definately. But, if you're out in the field, you want a lightweight weapon, not a cinder block. M16 is lighter and much much much muchx100 more accurate. Plus, I'd rather have a weapon that wounded (like the M16) soldiers, rather than killed them. If you kill a soldier, that's one man out of the war. You wound one and you've taken 3-4 soldiers off the battlefield in order to evacuate/treat the wounded.

QFT

 

[CalamitySymphony]

What are you talking about? Technically speaking, isn't the X1800XT more advanced? I'm sure if it had the same clocks as the GTX512, it would do just as well... And thats for a 16 pipe card.

I'm defo waiting on the R580 to blow whatever Nvidia's got out of the water...

 

[imported_Cript]

Bit of a stretch comparison... but

Originally posted by: Paktu
In Soviet Russia, card buys YOU!!!

this brought back memories, haha.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.

OK your statements are too funny.... You provided no timeline whatsoever.

I would be careful dissing Russia given that they invented the lazer, have far outpaced Americans when it comes to aircraft technology and actually hold the record for having built the largest airplane to date (AN-225 Mriya - which can hold the fuselage of a Boeing 747 inside its belly), as well as having one of the best helicopters on the planet - the Black Shark, and their space expertise is unparalleled. Russia's main problem with technology is lack of financial support and lack of quality attributed to lack of financial support and proper infrastructure. Let's not even discuss AK-47's standing as still the best all-around hand weapon ever made and how M16 guns jam in water....

I also failed to mention that out of all the countries in the world, Russia leads in terms of having the most billionaires under the age of 40 in the top 100; so it's not going out of business any time soon.

Instead you should thank the Soviet Union for showing you that some alternative market systems like communism are inferior to capitalism and that no market system is perfect or is protected from failure. Plus, without Russia and their "inferior" and "inefficient" weapons, Americans would have never defeated Hitler and many historians argue that they actually won the war and Americans helped them. The T-34 tank used in WW2 wasn't so bad afterall.

Again just because Russia is inferior economically today, doesn't mean US will remain the top empire forever...Just like Nvidia's market lead in the descrete graphics card segment is probably going to be overcome at one point (yet again ATI leads in overall market share).

Also when you say ATI cards are less technologically advanced, what do you mean exactly? Avivo video engine and ATI's 2D output are probably superior to Nvidia. Nvidia still offers no multimedia solution compared to Ati's all-in-wonder. ATI cards offer SM3.0, but let you have 14AA in crossfire mode and have 3Dc support. You can also say that that Nvidia has CineFX engine, shadow technology and that their engineering team has been able to produce a 110nm gpu that outpaces ATi's higher clocked gpu produced on 90nm process (an outstanding accomplishment).

Both companies offer something the other firm doesnt. Just because one goes about a different way of achieving the end result of producing image and framerates, doesn't mean the other is less technologically advanced. They are just different....Plus efficiency can be measured in terms of output per clock cycle, performance per watt, etc. So your argument is very ambiguous.

 

[gorcorps]

and I believe I've seen a red nvidia card (i'm thinking some 6600 but can't remember)

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.

OK your statements are too funny.... You provided no timeline whatsoever.

I would be careful dissing Russia given that they invented the lazer, have far outpaced Americans when it comes to aircraft technology and actually hold the record for having build the largest airplane to date, and their space expertise is unparalleled. Let's not even discuss AK-47's standing as still the best all-around weapon ever made and how M16 guns jam in water....I also failed to mention that out of all the country's in the world, Russia leads in terms of having the most billionaires under the age of 40 in the top 100.

Instead you should thank the Soviet Union for showing you that alternative market systems like communism are inferior to capitalism and that no market system is perfect. Plus, without Russia and their "inferior" and "inefficient" weapons, Americans would have never defeated Hitler and many historians argue that they actually won the war and Americans helped them.

Again just because Russia is inferior economically today, doesn't mean US will remain the top empire forever...Just like Nvidia's market lead is probably going to be overcome at one point (yet again ATI leads in overall market share).

Also when you say ATI cards are less technologically advanced, what do you mean exactly? Avivo video engine and ATI's 2D output are far superior to Nvidia. Nvidia still offers no multimedia solution compared to Ati's all-in-wonder. ATI cards offer SM3.0, but let you have 14AA in crossfire mode and have 3Dc support. You can also say that that Nvidia has CineFX engine and shadow technology.

Both companies offer something the other firm doesnt. Just because one goes about a different way of achieving the end result of producing image and framerates, doesn't mean the other is less technologically advanced. They are just different....Plus efficiency can be measured in terms of output per clock cycle, performance per watt, etc. So your argument is very ambiguous.

They may have had the technologies, but they were never successfully implemented them on a wide scale. He's right saying that the Soviets would have relied on strength in numbers (like China) compared to the puny armed forces of NATO. How did the US respond? Abrams tanks, Apaches, Bradleys, Blackhawks and Patriot missles. It was technology and precision vs an overwhelming, yet inferior force during the Cold War.

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Gamer X

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.

Gotta disagree. More reliable, definately. But, if you're out in the field, you want a lightweight weapon, not a cinder block. M16 is lighter and much much much muchx100 more accurate. Plus, I'd rather have a weapon that wounded (like the M16) soldiers, rather than killed them. If you kill a soldier, that's one man out of the war. You wound one and you've taken 3-4 soldiers off the battlefield in order to evacuate/treat the wounded.

QFT

Yeah and I thought they fixed the jamming issue.

 

[Unkno]

nvidia has red cards (asus)

R520 core is much more advanced than nvidia's current lineup. (Shrinked die, newer technology, while nvidia uses the same core as the 6800Series)

number of pipes and the core speed isn't the only thing that affects performance.


and your saying you "love to see ATI on par with nvidia", everyone keeps saying this but have they actually look at benchmarks? ATI's X1800XT performs better than Nvidias 7800GTX, and the the R580 card should be out in a few months to match the GTX512. You also have to know that ATI's x1000 series is still relatively new, which means there will be better driver updates to increase the performance (the 5.11 driver actually got like 30fps more in opengl games and 20fps more in directx games)

 

[natto fire]

Wow, what a troll post. FYI, video card performance does not equal e-peen. I know ATI is not favoring too well in this generation, but damn this is flame bait if I've ever seen it. (I read a lot of AT video, so I HAVE seen it)

 

[AznAnarchy99]

we woulda lost if we went into a major conflict with the Soviets at the hieght of the Cold War

 

[yhelothar]

lol @ the dumbasses taking the OP seriously.

 

[Doctorweir]

Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.

Hmm...my cards are also red and nVidia...

 

[BFG10K]

Plus, without Russia and their "inferior" and "inefficient" weapons, Americans would have never defeated Hitler

I don't think so.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Plus, without Russia and their "inferior" and "inefficient" weapons, Americans would have never defeated Hitler

I don't think so.

I dont know about this, because the bulk of the German army including the waffen SS (killing machines literally) was fighting in the east. All in all, Hitler couldve easily invaded Britain, and thats a fact during 1941.

Matt2:

Gotta disagree. More reliable, definately. But, if you're out in the field, you want a lightweight weapon, not a cinder block. M16 is lighter and much much much muchx100 more accurate. Plus, I'd rather have a weapon that wounded (like the M16) soldiers, rather than killed them. If you kill a soldier, that's one man out of the war. You wound one and you've taken 3-4 soldiers off the battlefield in order to evacuate/treat the wounded.

Theres some part of truth and fact in there, however not sure which is more accurate. The ak or the m16. But what you said about wounding etc is a bit out of context because lets say a enemy soldier was within 20 m of you. Now the Ak has a higher chance of killing the enemy. The M16 according to you has a higher chance of wounding. This is a matter of life or death on the battle fields. The "wounding" and needing 4 soldiers to carry back/treat etc are for booby traps, punji traps, mines etc. Killing the soldiers give you a more psycological advantage during war. I mean who wont be pissing their pants when your best mates just got shot through the head. Your out there to kill not to wound.

 

[Linearsoup]

Originally posted by: Gamer X

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.

Gotta disagree. More reliable, definately. But, if you're out in the field, you want a lightweight weapon, not a cinder block. M16 is lighter and much much much muchx100 more accurate. Plus, I'd rather have a weapon that wounded (like the M16) soldiers, rather than killed them. If you kill a soldier, that's one man out of the war. You wound one and you've taken 3-4 soldiers off the battlefield in order to evacuate/treat the wounded.

QFT

you must be joking,if your in the field you want something that works when needed,you dont care if its a bit heavyer.all you worry about is if its gonna put rounds on target when you pull the trigger.try having to use the sa80 in bosnia,great for moral.trying to think of something that has to do with vid cards now,ok how about in bf2 when you use the medic you get a stoppage every other round and your sa80 will randomly fall apart leaving you with just your pistol.just an idea.

 

[Cookie Monster]

This is a troll thread. The X1 series is leaps and bounds ahead compared to the X series.
Its feature set has a slight edge over the 7 series. Performance its pretty close due to the efficent design, although both GPUs are pretty damn eiffcent.

And who the *** are you to compare Ati to the soviet union? Well come to think of it, panzers (NV) vs T32s (ATi).

But this thread pure flamebait. I mean i started arguing over which gun is the best!!
Mods lock this thread please.

 

[BFG10K]

All in all, Hitler couldve easily invaded Britain, and thats a fact during 1941.

Hitler abandoned his invasion plans before he invaded Russia because he was unable to remove the RAF from the picture.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.

Russia has always been ONE of the most advanced countries in terms of technology (After/during WW2) so what u say is false.

Another point is that comparing gfx card manufacturers to contries is plain ridiculous, not only that and u can possibly offend people of those countries.

And in terms of graphics, it was ATI's desition to go for less pipes and faster clocks, it has no point of efficiency, because u can always say that ATI's card is more efficient because it relies on less pipelines to achive the same result, where u draw the line is individual opinion based on what is more important to u.