- Jul 24, 2008
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This is just my little rant, I've tried to back up what I've said as much as I can. If you would like to criticize, please do.
To start off, in my opinion AMD should just stick with server processors and graphics cards. They are suffering to Intel, and have been quite some time in the Desktop/Laptop market, which is the overall majority of users. And no I'm not an Intel fanboy, I used AMD processors for a long time, they have just about been cut out of their own game.
It would cut down on losses, production, etc. They also need to work on better marketing for their cards, word of mouth is doing great but it could be so much more.
Once they get a few key concepts down, they could own Nvidia so much more than they are right now, effectively just dominating the GPU market.
I'm not saying this will happen, but if they could come up with some kind of presentation that shows why big-name companies like Dell/Alienware, HP, Compaq should embrace AMD/ATI even more [cough HD4850/70 success, RV700], well there's the answer right there.
Poor Nvidia. They were on the top for so long. ATI/AMD effectively failed with 2900XT, and started learning from their mistakes with the HD 3xxx series, which did quite well, but still was a long shot from the 8xxx/9xxx series from Nvidia. Now with failing mobile GPU's, the new GTX series having "high failure rates" and the 4xxx series just blowing competition out of the water with the price/performance ratio, it looks like hard, hard times for Nvidia.
To start out, courtesy of AmberClad:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2213501&enterthread=y
EVERYBODY JUMP SHIP! At least that's what EVGA is thinking. Nvidia's stock will drop significantly in my opinion, if it hasn't already. Oh wait!
http://finance.yahoo.com/echar...le=on;source=undefined
Pick a day, watch it fall.
Now EVGA is wanting to partner up with AMD. Shame, EVGA is such a great company, one of the few I trusted. I wish them the best of luck.
I stated earlier the high failure rates of the mobile GPU's, here you go:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12553
What are you DOING Nvidia? Pay attention! Don't blame Dell for the bad construction/overheating of the cards. There goes more losses, $150-200M gone.
I haven't been able to find a stone article on how the GTX260/280 cards are doing, but all over Newegg you can see "DOA" "Way too hot" "Died after a week"
Now, before you start flaming, I'm not an ATI fanboy. I am actually running a computer with an 8800GT in it. This is mostly in my opinion. I love Nvidia for their 8x/9x series, they are great. But I think the GTX series was released in haste to get a jump on ATI/AMD before the 4x series came out, and it failed, MISERABLY.
While Nvidia was owning with the 8x/9x series and ATI was sitting stagnant, ATI was secretly working on some of the best GPU's to be released since the 6600GT [remember the frame rates you could get on CS:S?]. Then they surprised Nvidia, and pretty much every consumer. Nvidia has had a bad habit of releasing a series then working out the kinks as they go along. They love watching that dough roll in, but who doesn't?
I guess we'll find out how long this shift of power can last.
Thoughts?
To start off, in my opinion AMD should just stick with server processors and graphics cards. They are suffering to Intel, and have been quite some time in the Desktop/Laptop market, which is the overall majority of users. And no I'm not an Intel fanboy, I used AMD processors for a long time, they have just about been cut out of their own game.
It would cut down on losses, production, etc. They also need to work on better marketing for their cards, word of mouth is doing great but it could be so much more.
Once they get a few key concepts down, they could own Nvidia so much more than they are right now, effectively just dominating the GPU market.
I'm not saying this will happen, but if they could come up with some kind of presentation that shows why big-name companies like Dell/Alienware, HP, Compaq should embrace AMD/ATI even more [cough HD4850/70 success, RV700], well there's the answer right there.
Poor Nvidia. They were on the top for so long. ATI/AMD effectively failed with 2900XT, and started learning from their mistakes with the HD 3xxx series, which did quite well, but still was a long shot from the 8xxx/9xxx series from Nvidia. Now with failing mobile GPU's, the new GTX series having "high failure rates" and the 4xxx series just blowing competition out of the water with the price/performance ratio, it looks like hard, hard times for Nvidia.
To start out, courtesy of AmberClad:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2213501&enterthread=y
EVERYBODY JUMP SHIP! At least that's what EVGA is thinking. Nvidia's stock will drop significantly in my opinion, if it hasn't already. Oh wait!
http://finance.yahoo.com/echar...le=on;source=undefined
Pick a day, watch it fall.
Now EVGA is wanting to partner up with AMD. Shame, EVGA is such a great company, one of the few I trusted. I wish them the best of luck.
I stated earlier the high failure rates of the mobile GPU's, here you go:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12553
What are you DOING Nvidia? Pay attention! Don't blame Dell for the bad construction/overheating of the cards. There goes more losses, $150-200M gone.
I haven't been able to find a stone article on how the GTX260/280 cards are doing, but all over Newegg you can see "DOA" "Way too hot" "Died after a week"
Now, before you start flaming, I'm not an ATI fanboy. I am actually running a computer with an 8800GT in it. This is mostly in my opinion. I love Nvidia for their 8x/9x series, they are great. But I think the GTX series was released in haste to get a jump on ATI/AMD before the 4x series came out, and it failed, MISERABLY.
While Nvidia was owning with the 8x/9x series and ATI was sitting stagnant, ATI was secretly working on some of the best GPU's to be released since the 6600GT [remember the frame rates you could get on CS:S?]. Then they surprised Nvidia, and pretty much every consumer. Nvidia has had a bad habit of releasing a series then working out the kinks as they go along. They love watching that dough roll in, but who doesn't?
I guess we'll find out how long this shift of power can last.
Thoughts?