The Afghan government is dysfunctional and corrupt so it lacks support. This is not a condition we were ever able to really change so yeah not a shock the a lot of the rank and file don't want to die for it.
I think if the population was really behind the government, the military would be fighting a little harder.
Regardless, if after 20 years, the country folds in 2 months without us, I don't think a couple more would've made any difference.
lolno
The commandos were supposed to be the elite Afghan troops trained by US SpecOps guys. If they are indeed surrendering, then that would explain the rapid decline of Afghanistan's military capability.
Anyway, in typical US fashion, we are rushing back in with 3000 troops and enough air support to get most (why not all?) of our embassy staff out. Hopefully, they'll be evac'ing civilian Afghani interpreters, etc. as well. I was really counting on the Biden administration not screwing this up so much. Really want the press to dig into this story and figured out how we failed in leaving Afghanistan with some grace and professionalism.
The commandos were supposed to be the elite Afghan troops trained by US SpecOps guys. If they are indeed surrendering, then that would explain the rapid decline of Afghanistan's military capability.
Anyway, in typical US fashion, we are rushing back in with 3000 troops and enough air support to get most (why not all?) of our embassy staff out. Hopefully, they'll be evac'ing civilian Afghani interpreters, etc. as well. I was really counting on the Biden administration not screwing this up so much. Really want the press to dig into this story and figured out how we failed in leaving Afghanistan with some grace and professionalism.
“Beijing doesn’t necessarily place the same emphasis on factors the US sees as central to the future of Afghanistan, such as sustaining democratic elections or human rights,” Jost added.
But China’s willingness to recognize the Taliban — should the group topple the Afghan regime — undercuts Washington’s attempts to try to pressure the insurgents to return in good faith to diplomatic talks in Qatar.
Are they under your bed yet?Another win for China,
China reportedly prepares to recognize Taliban if they oust Afghan government
China is ready to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate ruler in Afghanistan if the extremist group manages to topple the democratically elected government in Kabul — which would also undermine t…nypost.com
With sufficient Saudi funding and ISI support, Al Qaeda might very well make a comeback in Afghanistan. Until we deal with Riyadh, Al Qaeda-like groups are going to keep popping up anywhere Saudi money flows.Thats the problem with most Americans. They know jack shit about the world around them and how events in some far off obscure place can impact them to a frightening degree. Sept 11 was hatched in Afghanistan by Al-Qaeda and now they are very likely to make a comeback there again under the rule of the Taliban.
Seriously? Pay attention to the conversation or just shut the fuck up.Yeh, gotta find some way to blame Biden..
Another win for China,
China reportedly prepares to recognize Taliban if they oust Afghan government
China is ready to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate ruler in Afghanistan if the extremist group manages to topple the democratically elected government in Kabul — which would also undermine t…nypost.com
Seriously? Pay attention to the conversation or just shut the fuck up.
Why can't the Afghan government ask for help from Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, or the UAE? Why do I have a bad feeling that they are going to ask Russia for help at the last moment.
Basically I agree..if the us knew this was going to happen they should have not pulled out and made a better exit plan. I agree with leaving Afghanistan but not like this. If you want a divorce, you don't just leave and let the kids starve and the dog die and have the neighbors figure it out. In many ways what's happening is an insult to the US soldiers who fought and died there. What did they die for?That's actually what I'm worried about, them or China stepping in.
Look I get it, we didn't belong there in the first place but we went in anyway. American's died in a country they didn't need to die in.
But to just pull out seemingly overnight and now allow more innocent people to be raped, pillaged, plundered and enslaved isn't right either. Politicians made this mess, they should have had a better exist strategy even if that meant keeping some troops there.
I don't know the concern level in this forum, but China, Iran and Russia are not our friends. Leaving them unchecked as we have is just going to create an eventual crises we can't handle.
<rolls eyes> Honoring the fallen has to be the single stupidest reason ever offered for continuing a war. It is a sunk cost fallacy written in blood.In many ways what's happening is an insult to the US soldiers who fought and died there. What did they die for?
That's actually what I'm worried about, them or China stepping in.
Look I get it, we didn't belong there in the first place but we went in anyway. American's died in a country they didn't need to die in.
But to just pull out seemingly overnight and now allow more innocent people to be raped, pillaged, plundered and enslaved isn't right either. Politicians made this mess, they should have had a better exist strategy even if that meant keeping some troops there.
I don't know the concern level in this forum, but China, Iran and Russia are not our friends. Leaving them unchecked as we have is just going to create an eventual crises we can't handle.
What I do not get is one thing in particular. Why did Biden not do something like Operation Baby Lift in Afghanistan when US troops were moving out?
Weren't they our allies in the 80s?
Somehow he was dumb enough to think Afghanistan wouldn't fall.
I could understand how he'd be that way. But who the !@#$ works in the Pentagon? Fire them. They lied to our President and or are unfit to command soldiers.
You're the one who came in here whining to me because I 'dared' to say I was disappointing in the president.Gimme a big ol' Wah!
Oh dear... Is someone whining just because the president did not know the terrorists were lying for supporting peace.Gimme a big ol' Wah!
You're the one who came in here whining to me because I 'dared' to say I was disappointing in the president.
He owns the fruits of his efforts, for better or worse. Every president does.