why bush?

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: Corn
Wow, the bigots are out in full force today.

Gee, if everyone were as smart as Conjur they'd be surfing the internet all day long looking for anti-Bush rhetoric...... Yeah, the Bush voters, you know, ones who are working for a living, earning a good living, and providing for their families., they're the "stupid" sheep.....

LOL you elite morons do make me laugh out loud on occasion.

:beer:

 

[alchemize]

That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

 

[CBone]

Originally posted by: Ornery
We don't want your Socialist type government here. The farther we can stay from that path, the better. The people crammed like sardines in the urban areas want more government involvement, like rapid transit, rent control and ever more social programs, like social security and national health care. They have NOTHING in common with the rest of us, and we don't want to fund their money pit programs.

The top priority of the Federal government is our nation's security. Without that, there's nothing left to argue about. Fortunately, a little better than half our voters have their priorities straight!

What DO you want funded by the government then? If you don't want to fund social security and national health care?

National security should have always BEEN high priority. Airline security has long been a joke and still is, but making "National Security" (In quotes because Bush /= guaranteed secure nation, It's not like he is standing at the border with a six-shooter or something. This is something many people fail to recognize. If that was the basis of voting one way or another, I would think that more people would vote for the man who can tell you first hand what it is like to stab and shoot a man to death in actual combat) a top priority now at the expense of other programs that ensure current and future Americans can prosper is short-sighted.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

Yeah, I'm not sure what stats those guys were looking at.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

What?

From CNN Exit polls:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

Only the extremes voted Kerry: the dumb and those self-righteous college profs.

 

[eakers]

ok so far the reasons i have are:

1. lower taxes
2. better economy (i thought the us dollar was low right now though?)
3. national security
4. kerry is too liberal
5. more "religious fantics", "rednecks", "hicks" voted than "educated and refined" people

does that sum it up?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

Yeah, I'm not sure what stats those guys were looking at.

Maybe they were looking at the college graduates who, according ot the poll, voted for Bush by 6% points over Kerry? In fact, the groups with the highest percentages of representation in this poll, from high-school to college, all voted in higher percentages for Bush, kind of destroying the meme that only poor, backwards yokels would vote for Bush.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: eakers
ok so far the reasons i have are:

1. lower taxes
2. better economy (i thought the us dollar was low right now though?)
3. national security
4. kerry is too liberal
5. more "religious fantics", "rednecks", "hicks" voted than "educated and refined" people

does that sum it up?

Hello. Aside from the self-righteous college professors all over New England, the "educated" voted for Bush:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

There goes that argument!

 

[kranky]

At the risk of breaking up this lovefest to answer the OP's question...

I'll assume your question was sincere, eakers, and I'll tell you why I voted for Bush.

I do not agree with everything Bush has done or wants to do. But I will not be a single-issue voter either. I won't decide based on the war, or abortion, or any other single issue. I try to take the entire picture into consideration.

The difference for me was this: I know where Bush stands. I believe he will act in a consistent manner. With Kerry, I had no idea what he was about. I know he was against a lot of things - but from what I heard and read he never articulated what he was going to do. He never said who his cabinet would be. He said he would increase jobs, but never said how. He said he would help small businesses, and also said he would raise taxes on small businesses. He said he would institute new social welfare programs while also giving everyone a tax cut but no explanation how that was going to work.

I cannot vote for a pig in a poke, especially someone who had no record of accomplishments. If you want to be President, either have a record to stand on, or a clear, articulated explanation of what you are going to do.

So even though I'm not Bush's biggest fan, I couldn't vote for Kerry because I didn't have any clue what I was going to get.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

What?

From CNN Exit polls:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

Only the extremes voted Kerry: the dumb and those self-righteous college profs.

alchemize said, "More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican." 1% more (No HS) doesn't really justify this statement. If he had said, more"educated" people vote republican, then he would've been somewhat correct.

However, this stat:

No College Degree 53% 47%
College Graduate 49% 49%

shows that people with no college degree voted more for Bush than Kerry. The voting was equal for those with a college degree.

 

[Babbles]

Wanted to point out that right now on Fox one of the former advisors to Clinton mentioned that that the Democrats need to rebuild more to the center. If a ranking Democrat thinks they have gone too far left.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: kranky
At the risk of breaking up this lovefest to answer the OP's question...

I'll assume your question was sincere, eakers, and I'll tell you why I voted for Bush.

I do not agree with everything Bush has done or wants to do. But I will not be a single-issue voter either. I won't decide based on the war, or abortion, or any other single issue. I try to take the entire picture into consideration.

The difference for me was this: I know where Bush stands. I believe he will act in a consistent manner. With Kerry, I had no idea what he was about. I know he was against a lot of things - but from what I heard and read he never articulated what he was going to do. He never said who his cabinet would be. He said he would increase jobs, but never said how. He said he would help small businesses, and also said he would raise taxes on small businesses. He said he would institute new social welfare programs while also giving everyone a tax cut but no explanation how that was going to work.

I cannot vote for a pig in a poke, especially someone who had no record of accomplishments. If you want to be President, either have a record to stand on, or a clear, articulated explanation of what you are going to do.

So even though I'm not Bush's biggest fan, I couldn't vote for Kerry because I didn't have any clue what I was going to get.

Pretty much why I voted for Bush. Kerry always said he'd do things better, but he never said how hed do them better. I also trust Bush more to keep this country safe in the fight against terrorism.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

Wait - I thought public schools, a high school degree, was the finest method of instruction? But perhaps my original post wasn't quite showing the sarcasm, as I certainly don't think education has any kind of correlation with idealogy, with the exception of those actually working in education.

Back to sarcasm. When you are really dumb, you vote democrat. As you get more intelligent, you vote republican. But then eventually, you get really smart, and start voting democrat again. I'm sure Moonie could explain it to me, but he's probably wallowing in misery

I'd love to see it broken down by degree. I'd wager we could categorize folks again into it. But no matter, I'm not really into that. That's a lame elitist liberal tactic that's not only insulting and bigoted, but been disproven.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's a fascinating link, Corn. And of course, the education bit is once again proven. More "uneducated" people vote democrat than republican.

And from that same link, the "smartest" people (Postgrad study) CLEARLY voted more democratic than republican. The "uneducated" (no high school) voted almost equally for either candidate.

And those w/o a college degree (which some could argue is "uneducated") voted more republican than democrat.

What?

From CNN Exit polls:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

Only the extremes voted Kerry: the dumb and those self-righteous college profs.

That's a truly moronic conclusion. When you look at College Graduate or higher, it's split between Kerry and Bush (49% each according to CNN). And even if you don't buy that because postgrad people don't count (wtf?), about 46% of people with education from high school to college graduate are Kerry supporters. If only the dumb and the college profs vote Kerry, how do you explain those 46%? Random outliers? Statistical error?

A conclusion you can draw from these stats is that high school graduates up through college graduates voted slightly more for Bush, even once you correct for the percentage of the entire country Bush won by. Doing that, the 7% lead in that education level becomes 4%, a lead that's pretty small by most standards. Certainly not something that lets you say all Kerry voters are dumb.

I think we can all see who's dumb here

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: eakers
As a non american, I thought that after the last four years there was no way Bush would be re-elected. I am not sure why I thought this way, perhaps because all the americans I know are young liberal people like me , perhaps because I watch the daily show or maybe because I just come from a more liberal country.

In all seriousness, why did you vote bush? I don't understand.

I voted for Kerry.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Hello. Aside from the self-righteous college professors all over New England, the "educated" voted for Bush:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

There goes that argument!

Ummm...post-graduate study doesn't equal to a 'college professor'. That would be your doctors, lawyers, business, specialized engineers, and so on.

 

[straubs]

Originally posted by: Emveach

I voted for Bush. I'm also an athesist. I also live in Ohio. I just happen to prefer lower taxes, growing economies, and making sure that anyone who has the possibility of making or aquiring any kind of bomb or weapon that could be used against me or my country is taken down.

So the question is, when Bush is actively pursuing MORE nuclear weapons for the US, does that make you a hypocrite?

By your thoughts, shouldn't other countries be "taking us down?" After all, we are making nuclear weapons for the possibility of using them against other countries.

What you are saying amounts to: We can have them, but no one else can have any. That seems irrational to me.

 

[Miramonti]

Bush won because of the growing pro-life cult, where its viewed as moral to value the life of the unborn more than the one thats born already - and thats basically the most important issue to them. He wouldn't have had a chance if it wasn't for these couch-potato-christians.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: eakers
As a non american, I thought that after the last four years there was no way Bush would be re-elected. I am not sure why I thought this way, perhaps because all the americans I know are young liberal people like me , perhaps because I watch the daily show or maybe because I just come from a more liberal country.

In all seriousness, why did you vote bush? I don't understand.

There are many idiots in the U.S.
Keep in mind that nearly 1/2 of us DO NOT support Bush or his stupid policies.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: CBone

Originally posted by: Ornery
We don't want your Socialist type government here. The farther we can stay from that path, the better. The people crammed like sardines in the urban areas want more government involvement, like rapid transit, rent control and ever more social programs, like social security and national health care. They have NOTHING in common with the rest of us, and we don't want to fund their money pit programs.

The top priority of the Federal government is our nation's security. Without that, there's nothing left to argue about. Fortunately, a little better than half our voters have their priorities straight!

What DO you want funded by the government then? If you don't want to fund social security and national health care?

National security should have always BEEN high priority. Airline security has long been a joke and still is, but making "National Security" (In quotes because Bush /= guaranteed secure nation, It's not like he is standing at the border with a six-shooter or something. This is something many people fail to recognize. If that was the basis of voting one way or another, I would think that more people would vote for the man who can tell you first hand what it is like to stab and shoot a man to death in actual combat) a top priority now at the expense of other programs that ensure current and future Americans can prosper is short-sighted.

Since I'm a Libertarian, I want as little involvement by the government as possible. Social Security is the most fubared, yet perfect example of a federal social program ever. Never should have been started, yet now we're stuck with it. Sooner we can phase it out, the better. No thanks to federally controlled health care as well, especially if you're expecting "the rich" and employers to fund the whole damn thing.

Which party is most likely to put more funding into "National Security"? Simple, no?

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Hello. Aside from the self-righteous college professors all over New England, the "educated" voted for Bush:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

There goes that argument!

Ummm...post-graduate study doesn't equal to a 'college professor'. That would be your doctors, lawyers, business, specialized engineers, and so on.

Can't we venture to say that doctors and businesses would be voting for Bush, ESPECIALLY doctors?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Hello. Aside from the self-righteous college professors all over New England, the "educated" voted for Bush:

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH-KERRY

No High School 49%-50%
H.S. Graduate 52%-47%
Some College 54%-46%
College Graduate 52%-46%
Postgrad Study 44%-55%

There goes that argument!

Ummm...post-graduate study doesn't equal to a 'college professor'. That would be your doctors, lawyers, business, specialized engineers, and so on.

Can't we venture to say that doctors and businesses would be voting for Bush, ESPECIALLY doctors?

I have no idea. I'm simply stating that 'postgrad study' is far far more than just 'self-righteous college professors'.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Look where the reds are, then look where the blues are.

Therein lies your answer.

BINGO!
notice where the "farmland" is.

haha my experience with driving thru ohio:

field field field farm church farm field field field farm church farm field field...

Wisconsin is better
field farm field tavern field farm field cheese factory field tavern field farm field.....

:beer::thumbsup:

CsG

 

[Mill]

1. Taxes
2. Kerry's foreign policy didn't differ vs Bush's. I've asked people in numerous threads and on different boards to tell me how it was different. Never received a response.
3. Kerry's campaign had nothing in it for me. Bush would protect my gun rights, protect my current tax level if not cut it, and Kerry couldn't promise that.