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Originally posted by: Maleficus
reasons not to buy Warcraft 3:
Starfall = I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Gay people who use lame tactics.
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First of all, Starfall is not lame. It costs hella lot of mana and you must center the priestess within all the enemy units, making her an easy target to get owned on. It's a max spell which means you need to get level 5 (i think they changed that to 6) for your hero first. And the cooldown time is enormous.
Gay people who use lame tactics? It's a strategy game. If they can beat you using lame tactics, maybe you should brush up on your tactics a little bit. This isn't even an argument to not buy War3, it's an argument to not play multiplayer games, as you'll see this in every online game you'll ever play.
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
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Hahahha You're wrong as well. Starfall WAS lame. All ultimate spells at researched at level 6. Cooldown time is no longer than other ultimate spells. And Blizzard nerfed it big time because it WAS lame, in their FIRST retail patch. (v1.01)
And he was joking u know. sheesh. Go outside and get some sun
Ahem.
Posted from Blizzard's War3 units web site:
Mass Teleport (Ultimate)
Teleports 24 of the player's nearby units, including the Archmage, to a friendly ground unit or structure.
Cooldown
15 sec
Earthquake (Ultimate)
Makes the ground tremble and break, causing 50 damage per second to buildings and slowing units by 75% with area of effect. Lasts 25 seconds.
Cooldown
90 sec
Starfall (Ultimate)
Calls down waves of falling stars that damage nearby enemy units. Each wave deals 50 damage. The time between waves is 1.5 seconds.
Cooldown
120 sec
Okay. So: I'm right. You're wrong.
Second, why the hell would anyone bother to argue over something that was lame in the first patch? That's why they patched it like, 7 or 8 times, to address balance issues. That's the point of a beta test. They fixed whatever "lameness" there was, and now it's no longer lame. So, Starfall lameness is not an issue, and hasn't been for some time now.
And he was NOT joking. Obviously you don't play enough to know that there are people who whine just because they can't win, and they find some stupid thing to blame it on.
So get outta my face with your "go outside and get some sun" crap.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Starcraft is sh*t. Warcraft3 owns. BTW I have the warez and don't intend on buying the retail. The reason being retail hasn't been available until now (whereas the warez I've had for a while and am nearly done the game) and even if it was I couldn't stomach paying the money for it now since I'm not on a project, so it's either play the warez version or no version.
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
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Hahahha You're wrong as well. Starfall WAS lame. All ultimate spells at researched at level 6. Cooldown time is no longer than other ultimate spells. And Blizzard nerfed it big time because it WAS lame, in their FIRST retail patch. (v1.01)
And he was joking u know. sheesh. Go outside and get some sun
Here's what you say:
"Cooldown time is NO LONGER THAN OTHER ultimate spells."
Guess I was right, after all. Cooldown for Starfall is longer than other ultimate spells. Since there are other ultimate spells with shorter cooldown than starfall, starfall cooldown is longer than other ultimate spells. So, your original statement, "Cooldown time is no longer than other ultimate spells" is wrong. WRONG. No other way around it. Have I beat it into your stupid head yet?
Furthermore, your incompetance is proved by how little you disregard Earthquake and Mass TP. Mass TP has a 15 sec cooldown, costs like 100 mana, last i checked, and is the same thing as having a town portal scroll to anywhere on the map with an allied unit. This lets you instantly help out allies under attack or instantly warp to the back of an enemy base, all you need to do is drop one allied unit in for sight. Earthquake can totally wipe out a guy's base in seconds and can stun a big bunched up group of enemies for an even bigger spell, or just to give your units the advantage. Takes out newbies who use 5 or 6 bunched up towers for their defense, without the pain of producing and researching catapults or ballistas or mortar team, then walking them over to the enemy base, and risk losing them.
And you still haven't even addressed the point of why anyone would bother arguing about a balance issue that was fixed like 5 patches ago. Next time, why don't you show a little more courtesy on the forums? That way, you won't look like such a fool when you're proven wrong. Forgive me if I don't give you any respect; you never showed any to me. You know, maybe I don't need more sun... maybe you've just been in the sun too long.