why cant Tiger Woods play golf anymore?

[KillerBee]

I did this as a kid - except in my backyard
and it ended up shattering the back porch sliding door window
- my golf career never recovered

 

[TeeJay1952]

Amazing mind and body that both aged poorly.

 

[futurefields]

He looks like he is in great physical shape to me. Surely you can't blame that when a fat guy just got Top 3 in the US Open?

 

[Mayne]

poor baby...booohooo ..my millions and billions.

 

[BUTCH1]

Golf course is in HORRIBLE condition and plays like a bad video game. Watch Bubba make this putt during practice and you'll see why, also a qualifying rant by Gary Player, dude hits it spot-on as to how horrific this course is and why it's so bad for golf. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/gary-player-eviscerates-us-open-course-chambers-bay#slideIdslide-16

 

[bunnyfubbles]

loss of his brand and legacy compounded by back issues.

he's still making tens of millions a year off of endorsements (I think its something like ~$50M this year), its fucking insane

pretty much the only golf news we hear on the average sports news is how bad Tiger is doing, even at his worst he's still the biggest news in golf, kind of pathetic for the sport

 

[mrrman]

Karmas getting back at him...hes washed up

 

[Pacfanweb]

Injuries and ego. He thinks he knows more than his swing coaches. He keeps changing his swing. Should have stuck with Harmon or Haney.

You cannot be on that level and constantly totally overhaul your swing and expect to remain there. It's a testament to how good he is that he was able to change things and get back to being any good at all, much less winning.

Jack's still the greatest, though.

 

[futurefields]

Golf course is in HORRIBLE condition and plays like a bad video game. Watch Bubba make this putt during practice and you'll see why, also a qualifying rant by Gary Player, dude hits it spot-on as to how horrific this course is and why it's so bad for golf. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/gary-player-eviscerates-us-open-course-chambers-bay#slideIdslide-16

I was watching some of the tournament and couldn't believe how bad the course looks.

My first job ever at the age of 15 was working at a golf course, i raked the sand traps in the morning before the guys hit the tees.

The crappy public course I worked at looks a million times better than Chamber's Bay.

I mean I live just outside of Seattle and Chamber's Bay is the brownest thing I've ever seen. You would think they would have atleast had a green course. Something went horribly wrong here. Its like they forgot to water it or something. Such an embarassment.

 

[BUTCH1]

I was watching some of the tournament and couldn't believe how bad the course looks.

My first job ever at the age of 15 was working at a golf course, i raked the sand traps in the morning before the guys hit the tees.

The crappy public course I worked at looks a million times better than Chamber's Bay.

I mean I live just outside of Seattle and Chamber's Bay is the brownest thing I've ever seen. You would think they would have atleast had a green course. Something went horribly wrong here. Its like they forgot to water it or something. Such an embarassment.

Yup, how the hell the PGA decided on a course so out of shape is truly mind-boggling, if you get a chance click on the link with the Gary Player interview, dude's 79 but he smart as ever. First point he makes is the obvious horrific conditions at Chambers Bay but then he notes that amateur golf has been steadily declining and this course is playable to the public, for around $200. He said a 10 handicap golfer would need the best day in his life to break 100 there.

 

[tcsenter]

Brain changes. Hypomania is that thing that makes a person seem to be on-fire, sharp as a tack, motivated and focused. It also can make you feel like banging everything that moves, gambling, drink a lot, life of the party, upbeat, charismatic, highly competitive, etc.

But then in the 20s or 30s, in those who are susceptible (which we don't fully understand), neurocognitive and mood changes can strike very often related to a stressor that triggers inflammatory responses and changes. Sometimes, linked to an infection. In others, linked to genetic predispositions or family history of things like mood disorder. In still others, no clue but they begin to wrestle with depression and loss of function, coping (and compensation) mechanisms that previously were very effective become less effective; activities that one previously found enjoyable or very satisfying become labors, become much more difficult to find that "groove" you easily could before, and don't return the same rewards.

Ever wake-up and from the moment you get out of bed, you just seem really "off" without any explanation (e.g. hang-over)? Your timing is bad, dropping things, forgetting things, you neurocognitively feel two steps behind, you can't anticipate like you normally can, its just a struggle to be sharp or on-top of things? And then the next day or maybe two days later, POW! Back to your "normal" highly-functioning self? That is a brain physiology thing.

Sometimes, in some people, that doesn't go away. It doesn't resolve on it's own within a day or two. It becomes long term or even life-long.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I was watching some of the tournament and couldn't believe how bad the course looks.

My first job ever at the age of 15 was working at a golf course, i raked the sand traps in the morning before the guys hit the tees.

The crappy public course I worked at looks a million times better than Chamber's Bay.

I mean I live just outside of Seattle and Chamber's Bay is the brownest thing I've ever seen. You would think they would have atleast had a green course. Something went horribly wrong here. Its like they forgot to water it or something. Such an embarassment.

There's nothing wrong with brown. Brown is completely natural for a golf course. The British Open is brown most years and we routinely see brown around the edges at places with a lot of native grasses like Oakmont, Pinehurst, Merion, Shinnecock and Pebble Beach. Hell, there are high end courses in the US that don't even have sprinkler systems for fairways and rough. Newport Country Club only waters their greens and tees, everything else is au natural and if it's not raining a lot it's brown and firm and it's still great, Hell, they host national events like that, Tiger won the US Amateur there, Annika won a Women's Open there. Chambers Bay is supposed to be played hard and fast, that's the defense of the place. Augusta National sets an impossible standard, like the models in Vogue or Cosmo it's pretty much unattainable in the real world. Uber-green is fake.

The problem at Chambers Bay isn't that it's brown, it's that the greens are shit. And they're not shit because they're brown, brownish greens can roll true and be excellent surfaces. They're shit because they're shit. There are a bunch of different strains of grass in them and the grass grows at different rates. So they're patchy and uneven and the ball doesn't roll in a predictable way. It just wanders along completely at the mercy of the tufts and valleys of which patches have grown more than others.

 

[MongGrel]

Yup, how the hell the PGA decided on a course so out of shape is truly mind-boggling, if you get a chance click on the link with the Gary Player interview, dude's 79 but he smart as ever. First point he makes is the obvious horrific conditions at Chambers Bay but then he notes that amateur golf has been steadily declining and this course is playable to the public, for around $200. He said a 10 handicap golfer would need the best day in his life to break 100 there.

The PGA needs to ramp it up a bit and put minefields in the Fairway, killer drones flying around and Punji sticks around the greens.

:biggrin:

 

[BUTCH1]

There's nothing wrong with brown. Brown is completely natural for a golf course. The British Open is brown most years and we routinely see brown around the edges at places with a lot of native grasses like Oakmont, Pinehurst, Merion, Shinnecock and Pebble Beach. Hell, there are high end courses in the US that don't even have sprinkler systems for fairways and rough. Newport Country Club only waters their greens and tees, everything else is au natural and if it's not raining a lot it's brown and firm and it's still great, Hell, they host national events like that, Tiger won the US Amateur there, Annika won a Women's Open there. Chambers Bay is supposed to be played hard and fast, that's the defense of the place. Augusta National sets an impossible standard, like the models in Vogue or Cosmo it's pretty much unattainable in the real world. Uber-green is fake.

The problem at Chambers Bay isn't that it's brown, it's that the greens are shit. And they're not shit because they're brown, brownish greens can roll true and be excellent surfaces. They're shit because they're shit. There are a bunch of different strains of grass in them and the grass grows at different rates. So they're patchy and uneven and the ball doesn't roll in a predictable way. It just wanders along completely at the mercy of the tufts and valleys of which patches have grown more than others.

Very true about Augusta, it's so pristine it almost looked like it was plastic turf-grass. As we trod about all 18 holes I asked my brother if he had seen a single weed, insect, anything, nope. They are so fussy about the condition members are not allowed to play for ( I think a month) beforehand because they don't want divot's on the fairways before the tournament.

 

[TheGardener]

They should all be brown. Wasting water on a golf course is a sin.

 

[Tsavo]

I don't see how Tyson was a huge fall from grace. The guy got old. When boxers get old they typically get worse. Ali lost 3 of his final 4 fights. Tyson did the same before calling it quits.

Being tossed in jail for being a rapist and then pissing away 400MM in earnings isn't a huge fall from grace?

 

[Mixolydian]

Never seen such a horrendous course in my life, and I don't even play golf. How the hell they chose that course.....it needs to be set on fire and bulldozed.

as for Tiger, he simply never recovered from the scandal. He's done.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Very true about Augusta, it's so pristine it almost looked like it was plastic turf-grass. As we trod about all 18 holes I asked my brother if he had seen a single weed, insect, anything, nope. They are so fussy about the condition members are not allowed to play for ( I think a month) beforehand because they don't want divot's on the fairways before the tournament.

Depending on who you ask Augusta National makes a profit of between 15 and 35 million dollars annually on the Masters. No other golf course on Earth has that, none even get close. They have essentially unlimited money to plow back into the course, no matter what needs to be done, no matter how many new shrubs need to be planted to hide damage, no matter how much fertilizer and water it takes, no matter how many new grounds crew members need to be hired, it's done without blinking an eye. Augusta National is that most fake golf course imaginable and yet the truly stupid hold it up as a standard of what a course should be like. I've had the good fortune to play at a bunch of major championship venues. Not gotten on Augusta and probably never will, but I've played Winged Foot, Pebble Beach, Pinehurst, Oak Hill, Shinnecock, Newport CC, Bethpage, Quaker Ridge, Westchester CC and while they're all beautiful and many have enormous budgets, none of them are even close to Augusta National. They all get a little brown in the summer and that doesn't effect how great they are. Heck, Augusta National doesn't even open in the summer. They shut down shortly after the Masters and don't reopen until September because they can't maintain those standards year-round.

 

[Grooveriding]

Maybe he's just lolling through it all. It's not like he will run out of money, or a lineup of fresh ones to lay the pipe to.

 

[MongGrel]

Maybe he's just lolling through it all. It's not like he will run out of money, or a lineup of fresh ones to lay the pipe to.

Pretty much this I imagine.

PacMan/Mayweather II ?

 

[MongGrel]

I've still never seen how the infatuation with someone who can chase a little ball around, or throw one,or hit one, or kick one, or shoot a puck has really made a real advance in society in any way.

 

[IEC]

I've still never seen how the infatuation with someone who can chase a little ball around, or throw one,or hit one, or kick one, or shoot a puck has really made a real advance in society in any way.

Inspiring other people to dream big and push the limits can be useful.

Unfortunately some pro athletes aren't exactly good role models for other aspects of life.

 

[BUTCH1]

I've still never seen how the infatuation with someone who can chase a little ball around, or throw one,or hit one, or kick one, or shoot a puck has really made a real advance in society in any way.

Why would a means of enjoyment need to "advance" society?, WTF, does bowling or Golf have to "advance" anything or can't we just have some fun once in awhile, geez, talk about a wet blanket.

 

[BUTCH1]

Depending on who you ask Augusta National makes a profit of between 15 and 35 million dollars annually on the Masters. No other golf course on Earth has that, none even get close. They have essentially unlimited money to plow back into the course, no matter what needs to be done, no matter how many new shrubs need to be planted to hide damage, no matter how much fertilizer and water it takes, no matter how many new grounds crew members need to be hired, it's done without blinking an eye. Augusta National is that most fake golf course imaginable and yet the truly stupid hold it up as a standard of what a course should be like. I've had the good fortune to play at a bunch of major championship venues. Not gotten on Augusta and probably never will, but I've played Winged Foot, Pebble Beach, Pinehurst, Oak Hill, Shinnecock, Newport CC, Bethpage, Quaker Ridge, Westchester CC and while they're all beautiful and many have enormous budgets, none of them are even close to Augusta National. They all get a little brown in the summer and that doesn't effect how great they are. Heck, Augusta National doesn't even open in the summer. They shut down shortly after the Masters and don't reopen until September because they can't maintain those standards year-round.

All true, heck we paid $225/ night for a room at an Econ-o-lodge, the manager told me he gets $350/night on tournament days and he's booked full.

 

[purbeast0]

I've still never seen how the infatuation with someone who can chase a little ball around, or throw one,or hit one, or kick one, or shoot a puck has really made a real advance in society in any way.

that typically means you just aren't good at anything in life. anyone who is good at something understands the infatuation of competition and being better than others at it.