會中文的人一定會明白；看不懂的話，可以用字典來解釋，對不對
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html
Author paints pretty broad strokes (if the article title wasn't enough indication), but I think there is potential for pretty interesting discussion here. My parents are Chinese, and I can identify with much of this article growing up in their household. I'm not sure exactly what style I'd employ with my (future) children, though. I find myself agreeing with some of the points the author's (Western) husband makes.
Thoughts?
(I'd quote the entire article but it's pretty long)
Hell I still get them. It's amazing how many other Asian kids my parents can find that have a 3.5+ GPA.
Yikes. I guess I won the Korean parents lottery. My mom was too busy running her business and my dad basically threw me down the hill when I entered HS and said that his lesson to me was sink or swim and left me alone. I can probably say with some certainty that if they were on my ass like typical Korean parents that I would not be where I am today.
im white and got a 3.85 in college. was valedictorian of my HS class. played soccer, lacrosse, clarinet in school band, and tons of computer games. where's your asian parenting now?
Let see how well you do when you move to China (or anywhere in Asia) and study in Chinese (or in any Asian languages) with little/no money.
You are white and you are doing well in your own country/language/culture. Tell me something I don't know so I can be more impressed.
"What Chinese parents understand is that nothing is fun until you're good at it. To get good at anything you have to work, and children on their own never want to work, which is why it is crucial to override their preferences.
This often requires fortitude on the part of the parents because the child will resist; things are always hardest at the beginning, which is where Western parents tend to give up. "
im white and got a 3.85 in college. Was valedictorian of my hs class. Played soccer, lacrosse, clarinet in school band, and tons of computer games. Where's your asian parenting now?
Let see how well you do when you move to China (or anywhere in Asia) and study in Chinese (or in any Asian languages) with little/no money.
You are white and you are doing well in your own country/language/culture. Tell me something I don't know so I can be more impressed.
我的薪水比你的高。哈哈哈哈哈！！！
甚麼爛嘛！　ａｔｏｔ人家都成功了，都很棒啦．每一個有超級漂亮的女朋友，各人的薪水也不錯．老實說，跟他們比起來，你甚麼都很差．
That said I'm kind of curious how if this article is a bunch of bullshit, and if the author is quietly making fun of the stereotypes that exist. She is a professor at Yale, so I feel that one needs to read between the lines....
Btw how the fuck is stealing accepted everywhere? When you say China I'm assuming Chinese culture in general - that said, I've been in Taiwan for quite a while, and this 'chinese culture' area provided me with no fears about stealing; if it was as you described, I wouldn't have had ZERO things stolen, I wouldn't have had night market ladies hold my bags that I totally forgot about and returned to pick up one hour later, I would would constantly have to worry about being handed the correct change everywhere I go....I just don't see what you said to be true.
Author paints pretty broad strokes (if the article title wasn't enough indication), but I think there is potential for pretty interesting discussion here. My parents are Chinese, and I can identify with much of this article growing up in their household. I'm not sure exactly what style I'd employ with my (future) children, though. I find myself agreeing with some of the points the author's (Western) husband makes.
Thoughts?
i cant read this
You're making the trauma resurface. Though my dad was much much MUCH worse.
He still hasn't forgiven me for not becoming a doctor.
Yeah but there is a difference between being strict parent-nazis and looking for healthy child development. I'd would state that a child needs a lot of 'free time' so they can play around with different things and figure out what they like and don't like and learn more about themselves. Several "Asian" friends of mine have lamented that they didn't get to explore and really learn what they did or didn't like because the first 15 years of their life doing school, hw, and shuttling around between various activities; it was as if they were mindless robots without any opinion or ideas of their own. Of course course going to the opposite end isn't good, and that s the example you cited: if you feed 7 hours of games and TV a day that sounds like massive parenting fail, but I wouldn't say that is the 'western style' of parenting.
IMO certain things kids need to be forced on regardless of their disposition towards it...performing well in school (in ALL subjects) is important; I agree with the article "You only hate that which you aren't good at" because I generally believe the same thing. By doing well in school subjects (which, come on, aren't hard) it keeps their options open for other things and trains their mind in many areas.
Other things kids need to be forced to follow through on a personal decision: I'd say "Give a choice as to what instrument they want to play (if they are even interested): give them time to explore and experiment with many instruments...but once they pick, make them follow through with it!. doesn't have to be a instrument, could be a sport, or could be an activity. Load them up with stimulating activities, but don't overload them. And lastly, let kids have free time to mess around and discover things - creativity is hugely important and plenty of freetime to discover and mess around is needed....
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loser or success?
My Korean mom was disappointed as well, but she has accepted the fact that she has to settle for a CPA.
dudes! English, please! Some of us only took 8 years of chinese language classes and learned absolutely nothing!
And that article shows exactly why chinese are seen as a bunch of hardworking lifeless robots that can't innovate for shit or have an ounce of imagination. It's been beaten out of them in the desperate attempts of parents to rigidly measure their kids up to their lame pointless yardsticks.
Confucianism is fail. The Japanese realized this that's why they didn't fail in the way of the Chinese. Not letting your kids be themselves is fail. Chinese mothers are fail. Fuck Chinese mothers.
Chinese is very easy to learn. It doesn't have the complex grammer system like English or Japanese. TBH, Chinese is more efficient because of the lack of the complex aforementioned systems.Let see how well you do when you move to China (or anywhere in Asia) and study in Chinese (or in any Asian languages) with little/no money.
You are white and you are doing well in your own country/language/culture. Tell me something I don't know so I can be more impressed.
WTF? It's one of the most difficult languages to learn. Did you learn it? Obviously not, because you said "Chinese".Chinese is very easy to learn.