Why Chinese Mothers are Superior

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gophins72

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would have been awesome if at the end of the quote she said something like "...you better buy me a used car if you know whats good for you."
 

JMapleton

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Update: Daughter got into Harvard:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/tigermothersdaughteracceptedintoharvard

“Having you as a mother was no tea party. There were some play dates I wish I’d gone to and some piano camps I wish I’d skipped. But now that I’m 18 and about to leave the tiger den, I’m glad you and Daddy raised me the way you did.”

Of course you are now dear, you got into Harvard. But when you grow up some more and realize the carefree days of your youth were stolen from you, perhaps you'll feel differently towards mommy. Of course, given mankind's penchant for rationalization, you'll probably just internalize it and do the same to your kids.

This mentality of people trying to spend their lives climbing other people's "success ladders" is ridiculous. In order to get to schools like these, you have to kiss so much butt it's insane. Passing other people's tests and morphing into what someone else defines as "intelligent."

I'm not at all impressed by anyone who went to any specific college. I'm more impressed with someone who went their own path and built success their own way. Not just jumping through other people's hoops.
 

Zebo

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We got a lot of random in my family with liberal white parents. As you know Im fucked up, I have one brother in and out of prison but one is a pharmacist, one a physiologist, one sister an aspiring artist. Point is with Asian parents you are guaranteed almost to be money makers. You can find yourself later after you got a phat bank account.
 
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This mentality of people trying to spend their lives climbing other people's "success ladders" is ridiculous. In order to get to schools like these, you have to kiss so much butt it's insane. Passing other people's tests and morphing into what someone else defines as "intelligent."

I'm not at all impressed by anyone who went to any specific college. I'm more impressed with someone who went their own path and built success their own way. Not just jumping through other people's hoops.

But that's the mentality every white kid is living. You're absolutely right that when someone builds their own path it's very amazing when successful, but 90% of the time people just dick around. I'm sorry, but I see this all over America. While we Asian kids get sent to summer school not because we failed classes but to leap ahead in academics, the white kids played all day long on their street. Yes, some of those same kids I knew went to great engineering schools like I did, but most of them are doing who knows what with their lives now.

The way I see it is that being pushed to do well guarantees that your kid won't be a high school dropout at least. The rest of their life is up to them. I have tons of friends who went to great schools. Some thought it was cool to rebel against their Asian parents now that they're in college. Smoked pot, did harder drugs, wasted their lives away. You're free to do that if you want. Most did well though, and while most of us enjoyed life like other college kids, we also came out with bright futures. I'm more than glad I got pushed in academics so that I at least did ok. There's a reason why most people in their 20s graduate from school and have no fucking clue what to do with life. Many graduate with BS majors and then look for idiotic jobs like teaching English abroad. Seriously? Are you going to settle down with that? Then they waste years renting and going paycheck to paycheck with a crappy job before finally landing something.

I can tell you countless stories of people who are like 27-28 and still make less than I did when I got right out of school. What's the point of that?

My friend wanted to do law school. Or so she thought. She graduated and looked around for some jobs. Ended up being a secretary at a law firm. That's like me wanting to be an engineer but not finding anything but being an operator on the manufacturing floor. Today she's in her late 20s and still being a secretary. I mean if this were an Asian kid, they'd have finished their LSATs before graduating and immediately have applied for law school. I'm all for my friend finding herself and later going to law school, but if she can easily be in her 30s by the time she's ready for her real career. Sorry I'm not going to waste my life away like that. I'm already sad that if I pursue a PhD i won't be done til I'm 29. Had I listened to my parents and jumped straight in I'd be out much earlier.
 
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Zebo

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But that's the mentality every white kid is living. You're absolutely right that when someone builds their own path it's very amazing when successful, but 90% of the time people just dick around. I'm sorry, but I see this all over America. While we Asian kids get sent to summer school not because we failed classes but to leap ahead in academics, the white kids played all day long on their street. Yes, some of those same kids I knew went to great engineering schools like I did, but most of them are doing who knows what with their lives now.

The way I see it is that being pushed to do well guarantees that your kid won't be a high school dropout at least. The rest of their life is up to them. I have tons of friends who went to great schools. Some thought it was cool to rebel against their Asian parents now that they're in college. Smoked pot, did harder drugs, wasted their lives away. You're free to do that if you want. Most did well though, and while most of us enjoyed life like other college kids, we also came out with bright futures. I'm more than glad I got pushed in academics so that I at least did ok. There's a reason why most people in their 20s graduate from school and have no fucking clue what to do with life. Many graduate with BS majors and then look for idiotic jobs like teaching English abroad. Seriously? Are you going to settle down with that? Then they waste years renting and going paycheck to paycheck with a crappy job before finally landing something.

I can tell you countless stories of people who are like 27-28 and still make less than I did when I got right out of school. What's the point of that?

I went to HS with ~1/4 Asian in Costa mesa (probably more now). Honors classes were about the same ratio. A lot of white parents are like Asian/Chinese moms so you can't generalize and say all.
 
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I went to HS with ~1/4 Asian in Costa mesa (probably more now). Honors classes were about the same ratio. A lot of white parents are like Asian/Chinese moms so you can't generalize and say all.

I know what you mean. Where I go to school the white kids are smart as fvck too. But this isn't the stereotypical America you see. The white kids left here are just as hard working as the Asians. But if you look at our Calculus classes or Physics classes they were predominantely Asian.

I think it' sjust a cultural difference. Tiger Mom is an extreme version. It's kinda what all the kids stereotype as the crazy Asian mom, and while everyone says they went through hell with their parents, looking back, I'm pretty sure 75% of the Asians from our school did not go through this. I do know kids who did, but I wasn't one of them.

While I was whipped into shape for academics, it was never this bad. My parents didn't care that I failed to practice for piano. In fact I only practiced twice a week. I studied but I also went out. So long as I put in a decent number of hours doing HW and studying, I could still go and have fun. It was just a balance. If I brought the A's back home, I was ok. If I got a B in Spanish it was frowned upon. If I got a B in Calculus, I'd be in big trouble. Fortunately school was easy so it was never a big challenge for me.

Update: Daughter got into Harvard:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/tigermothersdaughteracceptedintoharvard

“Having you as a mother was no tea party. There were some play dates I wish I’d gone to and some piano camps I wish I’d skipped. But now that I’m 18 and about to leave the tiger den, I’m glad you and Daddy raised me the way you did.”

Of course you are now dear, you got into Harvard. But when you grow up some more and realize the carefree days of your youth were stolen from you, perhaps you'll feel differently towards mommy. Of course, given mankind's penchant for rationalization, you'll probably just internalize it and do the same to your kids.

Here's the problem. Everyone wants to have fun. So we learn to do that in America. Meanwhile, millions of Chinese and Indians are willing to slave their asses off. Go look at todays PhD and Masters programs. Look at the sheer # of international students coming in. It's pretty insane. So while we continue to have this lazy culture in America, overseas immigrants come in and do well in our schools. They're more than happy to get a US degree. Look at today's high tech companies. The competition is not just for outsourcing, but for labor within America. I have to admit those Indian or Chinese immigrants will work 10x as hard as I want to. I want my weekends. I want my evenings. I want my happy hours. Now how do you expect me to compete against them? I'm glad my parents pushed me.
 
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JMapleton

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My friend wanted to do law school. Or so she thought. She graduated and looked around for some jobs. Ended up being a secretary at a law firm. That's like me wanting to be an engineer but not finding anything but being an operator on the manufacturing floor. Today she's in her late 20s and still being a secretary. I mean if this were an Asian kid, they'd have finished their LSATs before graduating and immediately have applied for law school. I'm all for my friend finding herself and later going to law school, but if she can easily be in her 30s by the time she's ready for her real career. Sorry I'm not going to waste my life away like that. I'm already sad that if I pursue a PhD i won't be done til I'm 29. Had I listened to my parents and jumped straight in I'd be out much earlier.

The story of how the attorney has grown to become one of the "successful" professions like a doctor is silly. Most lawyers do not make very much money (most under $100k) and they work long hard hours.

People only get into the profession because they view it as an "elite" profession, which is silly, because it's not, and because who would be proud to have to get up and go to work everyday?
 

Zebo

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because who would be proud to have to get up and go to work everyday?

This. What's weird if you're poor or rich you don't have to.
 

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People only get into the profession because they view it as an "elite" profession, which is silly, because it's not, and because who would be proud to have to get up and go to work everyday?
My dad. He loves going to work.
 
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The story of how the attorney has grown to become one of the "successful" professions like a doctor is silly. Most lawyers do not make very much money (most under $100k) and they work long hard hours.

People only get into the profession because they view it as an "elite" profession, which is silly, because it's not, and because who would be proud to have to get up and go to work everyday?

once again, this is because if you don't go to a top 15 law school or a top 15 business school, you're screwed. so yes, the people who don't work their asses off make 50-60k. We already discussed this before in the law school thread.

I can list every single one of my friends who went to law school and they ALL made 150k+ straight out of law school. It's a competitive field and thus you have to be competitive yourself. This is EXACTLY why the Asian parenting method will push more kids through law school. The same goes with business school. People waltz into college thinking they can get into all these programs because they had some aspirations before. It's funny because they then see how the pre-law or pre-business classes are filled with competitive assholes who will go cutthroat on you to pull ahead.
 

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Not all Asian Mom's are superior.

A Massachusetts woman has pleaded not guilty to charges that she drugged her 8-year-old son and killed him while trying to commit suicide by lighting a hibachi grill inside a bedroom in their apartment.

Li Rong Zhang entered the plea through an interpreter during her first formal court appearance Tuesday. A judge ordered the 39-year-old woman to remain in custody until her Aug. 18 pretrial hearing.

Li was arrested in January, a day after her 16-year-old son found her and another son, Brandon Young, unconscious in their home in Quincy, south of Boston.

Firefighters who broke through a barricaded door into a second-floor room found the younger boy lying on the bed and his mother on the floor.

Li has undergone a psychiatric evaluation. Her attorney declined to comment.
 
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