Why did Hersheys Chocolate move to Mexico?

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Turkey22

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: senseamp
Thanks for the info, not buying Hersheys no more. They can keep their Mexican chocolate.

Same!

Nestles all the way now!

as a chocoholic, it hurts me to say this ,but yeah, hersheys are no more in my or my family's life. besides, there are lots and lots of other chocolate candy brands that are loyal to their north american employees to choose from.

Mexico is in North America, dumbass.

Last I checked Mexico is not a U.S. state. It is called south of the border for a reason.

Last I checked nobody mentioned it being a state. I believe the discussion was continents and Mexico is in north america.

LOL, we all know what was meant. If you check you'll see that some people classify Mexico as being part of C.A., some say only part of it is in C.A. I don't think anybody classifies all of Mexico as being in N.A.?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Jalapeno Butter Cups?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: tw1164
Soon it will all be fake chocolate anyways

When some people think of chocolate wars, they imagine battles for market share between The Hershey Co. and Mars Inc.

But now the battle is turning to chocolate itself.

Gary Guittard, president of Guittard Chocolate Co. in Burlingame, Calif., is taking a public stand over a request submitted to the Food and Drug Administration to allow a product to be called chocolate even though vegetable fats are substituted for cocoa butter.

"I just don't think that's right," said Guittard, who is the fourth generation of the family owned premium chocolate maker. Chocolate should "contain everything from the cocoa bean," he said.

Not having cocoa butter in chocolate is "like taking tomatoes out of ketchup," he added.

He's not against companies using substitutes for cocoa butter. He just doesn't feel the product should be labeled chocolate. Companies can call it chocolate flavored or something else, he said.

The request involving cocoa-butter substitutes is part of a petition submitted last fall to the FDA for the modernization of food standards. The request was made by the Grocery Manufacturers Association on behalf of 11 organizations, including the Chocolate Manufacturers Association.

The CMA, in a letter to its members posted on its Web site, said the petition reflects the CMA's "view that now is an appropriate time for FDA to update the standards of identity for all foods." The organization added that "by co-signing the food-industry petition, CMA has not endorsed any particular change to the standards of identity for chocolate products."

Hershey is taking a different stand than Guittard.

Spokesman Kirk Saville said, "There are high-quality oils available which are equal to or better than cocoa butter in taste, nutrition, texture and function, and are preferred by consumers."

Gary Guittard has a legimate bitch.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Turkey22

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: senseamp
Thanks for the info, not buying Hersheys no more. They can keep their Mexican chocolate.

Same!

Nestles all the way now!

as a chocoholic, it hurts me to say this ,but yeah, hersheys are no more in my or my family's life. besides, there are lots and lots of other chocolate candy brands that are loyal to their north american employees to choose from.

Mexico is in North America, dumbass.

Last I checked Mexico is not a U.S. state. It is called south of the border for a reason.

Last I checked nobody mentioned it being a state. I believe the discussion was continents and Mexico is in north america.

LOL, we all know what was meant. If you check you'll see that some people classify Mexico as being part of C.A., some say only part of it is in C.A. I don't think anybody classifies all of Mexico as being in N.A.?

Figures a dumb farmer wouldn't know geography. No, Mexico is in North America. Sorry.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Turkey22

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: senseamp
Thanks for the info, not buying Hersheys no more. They can keep their Mexican chocolate.

Same!

Nestles all the way now!

as a chocoholic, it hurts me to say this ,but yeah, hersheys are no more in my or my family's life. besides, there are lots and lots of other chocolate candy brands that are loyal to their north american employees to choose from.

Mexico is in North America, dumbass.

Last I checked Mexico is not a U.S. state. It is called south of the border for a reason.

Last I checked nobody mentioned it being a state. I believe the discussion was continents and Mexico is in north america.

LOL, we all know what was meant. If you check you'll see that some people classify Mexico as being part of C.A., some say only part of it is in C.A. I don't think anybody classifies all of Mexico as being in N.A.?

Figures a dumb farmer wouldn't know geography. No, Mexico is in North America. Sorry.

If you want to get techinal about it, some say Central America is part of North America too, dumb ass.

Central America (Spanish: Centroamérica or América Central) is the central geographic region of the Americas. It is variably defined either as being a region of the Americas in its own right or as the southern portion of North America.

Don't take my word, look around and see for yourself. Just because you consider Mexico to be part of North America doesn't mean everybody does. That's just your ignorant, know-it-all, city slciker mentality showing through.

Central America Temperature

I think most people consider parts of Mexico to be in Central America, which creates the confusion.

Central America is a narrow isthmus of southern North America extending from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico southeastward to the Isthmus of Panama where it connects to the Colombian Pacific Lowlands in northwestern South America. Having an area of some 523,000 square kilometres, it includes the portion of Mexico east of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec?namely the Mexican states of Campeche, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, Tabasco, and Yucatán. The North Pacific Ocean lies to the southwest, the Caribbean Sea lies to the northeast, and the Gulf of Mexico lies to the north.

http://www.travelblog.org/Central-America-Caribbean/

Now if your done insulting me, kindly FVCK OFF ASSHAT!

 

[Farang]

Maybe instead of bitching about how rich Hershey's and its stockholders are getting, you should invest in Hershey's.

The stock market isn't some exclusive club. These big evil corporate profits some of you speak of can be your profits if you want them to be.

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Termagant
Why so much emotion over some stupid candy? A lot of your other food comes from overseas and America is better because of it. If you want to compete with Mexican or Chinese factories, fine, just be prepared to pay the "fair wage" of 30 cents per hour and no benefits. The other alternative is to enact protectionist policies which just hurts the American consumer who pays $3.00 for candy bars. If American companies/workers can't compete, they had better do something to become more productive, like more automation. Wouldn't you rather have Americans working as robot manufacturers/maintainers than Umpa Loompas?

excuse me? no american company leaving the country is a good thing. what industry do we have left anymore, i know its just candy but the premis is still there.

What industry do we have left anymore??? How about the intellectual service industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the highly automated manufacturing industries? If Americans working in a chocolate factory is inefficient, then it is better for them to find jobs more suited to their high wage cost. The shareholders of Hershey's and whatever company hires these workers then benefit as well.

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: Farang
Maybe instead of bitching about how rich Hershey's and its stockholders are getting, you should invest in Hershey's.

The stock market isn't some exclusive club. These big evil corporate profits some of you speak of can be your profits if you want them to be.

Don't waste your time trying to bring common sense to these Luddites. Apparently they deliberately spurn smart investments while pursuing their "fair wages" in the strategically vital rubber duck industry.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Termagant

Originally posted by: Farang
Maybe instead of bitching about how rich Hershey's and its stockholders are getting, you should invest in Hershey's.

The stock market isn't some exclusive club. These big evil corporate profits some of you speak of can be your profits if you want them to be.

Don't waste your time trying to bring common sense to these Luddites. Apparently they deliberately spurn smart investments while pursuing their "fair wages" in the strategically vital rubber duck industry.

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe they don't have enough money to invest? I know I went through a very tough time when my wife was sick and we came to top our last $5 every damn week.

That wised me up. Investing is great, but the catch 22 is if you can afford to invest $1000/year and get a 20% return you make $200. Some people can afford to invest $10,000, some can do $100,000 and some can aford to invest millions.

There is a big difference between being able to make $200 to $2000/year on investments and the rich making $20,000 to $200,000.

WHy do you think the rich keep getting richer? It's not because they're that much smarter then everyone else, it's because they have more money.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Turkey22

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: senseamp
Thanks for the info, not buying Hersheys no more. They can keep their Mexican chocolate.

Same!

Nestles all the way now!

as a chocoholic, it hurts me to say this ,but yeah, hersheys are no more in my or my family's life. besides, there are lots and lots of other chocolate candy brands that are loyal to their north american employees to choose from.

Mexico is in North America, dumbass.

Last I checked Mexico is not a U.S. state. It is called south of the border for a reason.

Last I checked nobody mentioned it being a state. I believe the discussion was continents and Mexico is in north america.

LOL, we all know what was meant. If you check you'll see that some people classify Mexico as being part of C.A., some say only part of it is in C.A. I don't think anybody classifies all of Mexico as being in N.A.?

Figures a dumb farmer wouldn't know geography. No, Mexico is in North America. Sorry.

If you want to get techinal about it, some say Central America is part of North America too, dumb ass.

Central America (Spanish: Centroamérica or América Central) is the central geographic region of the Americas. It is variably defined either as being a region of the Americas in its own right or as the southern portion of North America.

Don't take my word, look around and see for yourself. Just because you consider Mexico to be part of North America doesn't mean everybody does. That's just your ignorant, know-it-all, city slciker mentality showing through.

Central America Temperature

I think most people consider parts of Mexico to be in Central America, which creates the confusion.

Central America is a narrow isthmus of southern North America extending from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico southeastward to the Isthmus of Panama where it connects to the Colombian Pacific Lowlands in northwestern South America. Having an area of some 523,000 square kilometres, it includes the portion of Mexico east of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec?namely the Mexican states of Campeche, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, Tabasco, and Yucatán. The North Pacific Ocean lies to the southwest, the Caribbean Sea lies to the northeast, and the Gulf of Mexico lies to the north.

http://www.travelblog.org/Central-America-Caribbean/

Now if your done insulting me, kindly FVCK OFF ASSHAT!

Everything you are talking about is what people from other countries or areas think (namely Europe and Latin America). Are you from the United States? Yes. So, obviously, the correct answer is that Mexico is in NORTH ****** AMERICA. If you were from Poland and said "we think parts of it are in both" then I would say sure that's no problem because that's what you are taught. Don't try to equate your horrible ignorance with someone having a differing opinion. In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

However, I do find it hilarious that you think a map that puts 1/50th of Mexico in Central Mexico "creates" confusion. Perhaps you should have stayed in school instead of farming those soybeans.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Mill
In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

Ever hear of the Rio Grande river???

South of the river is considered Central America which is where South of the Border came from.

 

[flyfish]

So I could buy a Hersey's bar at Wal-mart for $0.38.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill
In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

Ever hear of the Rio Grande river???

South of the river is considered Central America which is where South of the Border came from.

Save your breath. I point out how there's confusion on exactly what is and isn't considered to be Central America and he argues I'm wrong because I don't live in Poland, but if I did then it'd be OK. LOL, but there's confusion in the US of A by God!! Mexico is in North America, well at least a lot of of it. <shakes head>

The fact that Hershey's is moving it's plants from one country across the border to another country doesn't seem to register to Mill.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill
In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

Ever hear of the Rio Grande river???

South of the river is considered Central America which is where South of the Border came from.

You are a moron. South of the Border refers to the U.S. Border and NOT the Continental Border.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill
In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

Ever hear of the Rio Grande river???

South of the river is considered Central America which is where South of the Border came from.

Save your breath. I point out how there's confusion on exactly what is and isn't considered to be Central America and he argues I'm wrong because I don't live in Poland, but if I did then it'd be OK. LOL, but there's confusion in the US of A by God!! Mexico is in North America, well at least a lot of of it. <shakes head>

The fact that Hershey's is moving it's plants from one country across the border to another country doesn't seem to register to Mill.

Oh really? Find me a map that shows Mexico in Central America that is from a US site.

http://www.se.usma.edu/devsite/images/north-america-map-2d%5B1%5D.jpg
Map from the CIA: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/americas/north_america_ref02.jpg
http://www.world-maps.co.uk/maps/600-north_america.jpg

Here is Central America:

http://www.world-maps.co.uk/maps/600-central_america.jpg

From your wiki link:
"Geopolitically, Mexico is frequently not reckoned in Central America."

 

[1EZduzit]

From your wiki link:
"Geopolitically, Mexico is frequently not reckoned in Central America."

Yes, frequently, BUT NOT ALWAYS, hence the confusion. THAT"S WHAT I"VE BEEN ARGUING Duhhhh!

Your so far off topic anyway, it doesn't matter where Mexico is in this thread. The point is Hershey is just another company moving out of the US for cheap labor. Some "Great American Choclate Bar" they are.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

From your wiki link:
"Geopolitically, Mexico is frequently not reckoned in Central America."

Yes, frequently, BUT NOT ALWAYS, hence the confusion. THAT"S WHAT I"VE BEEN ARGUING Duhhhh!

Your so far off topic anyway, it doesn't matter where Mexico is in this thread. The point is Hershey is just another company moving out of the US for cheap labor. Some "Great American Choclate Bar" they are.

There is no confusion. Wikipedia is supposed to be written with an International Viewpoint. Therefore, those who think it is Central America (people NOT from the United States), have their point of view as well. However, for people like you and me -- you know -- folks from the United States, Mexico IS in the United States.

Are you daft enough to have never heard of NAFTA? NORTH American Free Trade Agreement? It was between Mexico, the US, and Canada. What about CAFTA? Central American Free Trade Agreement? It did not include Mexico because MEXICO IS NOT IN ****** CENTRAL AMERICA. For people in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA MEXICO IS IN NORTH AMERICA.

Are you going to tell me there are not 7 continents? Now, lots of people from Europe, Asia, Latin America, and a few other countries are taught there are between 4-7. However, in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- 7 continents is how geography is taught. Just like how MEXICO is in NORTH AMERICA.

I know being a dumb farmer is a hard job, but please at least grasp these simple concepts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFTA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAFTA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

"This article is about the country in North America" Nowhere does it say "sometimes" in Central America. It is VERY clear that Mexico is in North America. Furthermore, Central America is in -- drumroll -- North ****** America! DURRRRR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents#Number_of_continents

North America ALWAYS includes Central America. Mexico is ALWAYS in North America. Even if someone from outside the U.S. -- or a dumb farmer -- claims that Mexico is in Central America, Central America IS STILL IN NORTH AMERICA.

Get a clue and shut-up already.

Encarta: Mexico is in North America

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761576758/Mexico.html

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Mill
In the United States, it is not debatable. Mexico is in North America. Deal with it.

Ever hear of the Rio Grande river???

South of the river is considered Central America which is where South of the Border came from.

Save your breath. I point out how there's confusion on exactly what is and isn't considered to be Central America and he argues I'm wrong because I don't live in Poland, but if I did then it'd be OK. LOL, but there's confusion in the US of A by God!! Mexico is in North America, well at least a lot of of it. <shakes head>

The fact that Hershey's is moving it's plants from one country across the border to another country doesn't seem to register to Mill.

It's typical of those people to attack the messenger to duhversion away from the issue.

Thank God real Americans don't seem to be falling for it in the 52% numbers like the past previous 6 years prior to last November. One can only hope they don't get spellbinded again like 2000 & 2004 before next November.

 

[cruzer]

Ross Perot was right when he said NAFTA would lead to a "great sucking sound" of jobs leaving the country.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.

Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?


Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

And treasonous management.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.

Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?

Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

And treasonous management.

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