Why did the democrats fall so far short of expectations this election?

[brycejones]

They're idiots about it, anyway. Screaming for smaller gubmint is cutting their own throats in a lot of places-

States with the most government workers

Wyoming employed the largest share of state and local government workers in the country, at 22.4% of its workforce.

www.usatoday.com

They remind me of the idiot I responded to:

Ignorant voter: Where is your plan for X? Talk about your plan for X!

Democrats: We can do A, B, and C actions that will help you.

Ignorant voter: Will it cost money?

Democrats: Yes it will cost some money because things like infrastructure, education, economic development aren't free.

Ignorant voter: We can't spend any money on anything. (Except the military, and MY social security because I EARNED it unlike those other leaches)

Democrats: But then your problems will remain the same. Unless we change something.

Ignorant voter: Fuck you democrats you never any ideas! And they want to eat the live babies pulled screaming from the wombs of mothers after they take muh guns.

Remember sao123 and his whole thread on how his rural area subsidized the roads in Philadelphia and no one in Philly paid gas taxes because they all took the bus?

 

[MrSquished]

Fot the first time in my life I started looking at jobs overseas in select countries. It will be hard due to my very varied experience and lack of languages besides English, but there has to be a country where the ratio of smart to dumb is better than this. Idiots will be everywhere but I just want a better ratio overall.

If I have to see yet another Joe Biden is a pedophile or radical leftist poster online, and they are everywhere, I will just walk off a mental cliff.

 

[ondma]

Fracking brings TONS of jobs to rural areas, have you heard of midwest Texas? It's entirely based on fracking and the boom of it. It used to be hodunk town, last i remember it had tons of hotels, property values going up out the ass, good restaurants opening, etc.. etc... O&G is also a boom/bust industry though.

Nor in general am I saying fossil fuel is "bringing" jobs to rural areas. My main point was that jobs were ONCE there. Manufacturing and coal were once full-on dedicated jobs for those rural areas. They have since been outsourced or brought in to urban areas.

NOTATION: I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR FRACKING OIL/GAS. I'M SIMPLY DISCUSSING RURAL JOBS.



I asked a question - and thus far no one can answer my question. When it comes to "Green New Deal" - what jobs will come to rural areas? Again - I'm not doubting it, I simply can't think of any. Please feel free to enlighten me of jobs that haven't been there before that won't be can't/won't be outsourced.

Fracking is also not a stable job - it is constantly moving to new locations. I'm specifically talking about a 9-5 job that someone can commute to in their rural town.

I did answer your question. You are just ignoring the answer, much like your Fearless Leader is ignoring the will of the people of this country as evidenced by their vote.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I did answer your question. You are just ignoring the answer, much like your Fearless Leader is ignoring the will of the people of this country as evidenced by their vote.

You didn't. Try again. Or just keep telling yourself things that you want to believe that will never become true.

Such as Republicans will never win another election.

 

[MrSquished]

You didn't. Try again. Or just keep telling yourself things that you want to believe that will never become true.

Such as Republicans will never win another election.

This from the guy that thinks the actual information superhighway that runs almost all commerce these days has nothing to do with the potential of rural areas getting jobs. It's not guaranteed but it's their only shot.

Republicans are going to win plenty of elections, because they rely on people having no critical thinking skills, like that.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

This from the guy that thinks the actual information superhighway that runs almost all commerce these days has nothing to do with the potential of rural areas getting jobs. It's not guaranteed but it's their only shot.

Republicans are going to win plenty of elections, because they rely on people having no critical thinking skills, like that.

So you admit that there are no jobs for rural areas by your statement of ,"It's their only shot" in regards to magically making job positions via internet.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing that one can come to that epic level of stupidity. I mean, just look at all the rural areas in other countries that have internet - they are absolutely thriving out the ass lol.

 

[Blackjack200]

You didn't. Try again. Or just keep telling yourself things that you want to believe that will never become true.

Such as Republicans will never win another election.

An explicit component of the GND is replacing the oil and gas jobs lost with jobs building out the green energy infrastructure. Are you disputing that this is the case, or are you doubting that it can ultimately deliver on that promise?

 

[Zorba]

I'm not asking for marketing materials - though I agree with you it DOES need to be marketed better.

My question is simply what jobs can we "outsource" to rural areas as part of this movement?.... Again, I'm not doubting you, I'm just personally struggling to come up with why (and what) companies would have an interest with doing something in a rural area vs. an urban.

I'm just looking for general job titles of what rural people are able to handle (making sure it is within their skillset) and that it makes sense for it to be located there - especially during these outsourcing times. Because if someone says something like "manufacturing solar panels" they deserve a punch in the face if they think all the previous manufacturing is any different from "Green New Deal" manufacturing

I'm guessing you've never driven through northern or western Oklahoma? Thousands of windmills in hay fields. Those pay royalties to the land owner. And bring in highly paid technicians to maintain them. Plus it's been non stop construction over the last decade.

Instead of Oklahoma giving a ton of tax break to oil, maybe we should give it to windmill manufacturing to get some of those built in rural Oklahoma, where they are actually being installed.

 

[ondma]

Just a note here, in case anyone has forgotten. Biden did not even endorse the Green New Deal.

 

[brandonbull]

Fot the first time in my life I started looking at jobs overseas in select countries. It will be hard due to my very varied experience and lack of languages besides English, but there has to be a country where the ratio of smart to dumb is better than this. Idiots will be everywhere but I just want a better ratio overall.

If I have to see yet another Joe Biden is a pedophile or radical leftist poster online, and they are everywhere, I will just walk off a mental cliff.

Sound like addition by subtraction.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Just a note here, in case anyone has forgotten. Biden did not even endorse the Green New Deal.

Plus Hydraulic Fracturing is drastically less labor intensive and probably will salt the earth for long term water tables in those areas. We can get short term profit from rural America and then not have to worry about them long term because they will be dead.

 

[MrSquished]

So you admit that there are no jobs for rural areas by your statement of ,"It's their only shot" in regards to magically making job positions via internet.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing that one can come to that epic level of stupidity. I mean, just look at all the rural areas in other countries that have internet - they are absolutely thriving out the ass lol.

I can just picture you 70 years ago preaching to the damn city elitists we don't need your damn electrification acts and highway system socialist bullshit, that shit has no chance of bringing anything positive to our areas!

 

[woolfe9998]

The media doesn’t care about policy so it doesn’t report on it.

Probably more accurate to say they think their viewers and readers don't care about it.

 

[MrSquished]

Sound like addition by subtraction.

Yes we know, Joe Biden is a radical leftist tool that touches little kids.

I now before your superior intellect.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

An explicit component of the GND is replacing the oil and gas jobs lost with jobs building out the green energy infrastructure. Are you disputing that this is the case, or are you doubting that it can ultimately deliver on that promise?

All in simply asking is for someone.... Anyone... To mention what specific jobs will be brought to rural areas and why.

E.g. if you say... Manufacturing solar panels, you would mention that - and specifically why that would be brought back while other manufacturing has continued to be outsourced. No one has been able to even name one position - let alone a reason why it would exist in rural areas.

 

[zzyzxroad]

So you admit that there are no jobs for rural areas by your statement of ,"It's their only shot" in regards to magically making job positions via internet.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing that one can come to that epic level of stupidity. I mean, just look at all the rural areas in other countries that have internet - they are absolutely thriving out the ass lol.

So in your opinion how do we fix rural America? I have note seen a clear answer on exactly what potential new industries will spring up there and the historical ones have all been automated.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I'm guessing you've never driven through northern or western Oklahoma? Thousands of windmills in hay fields. Those pay royalties to the land owner. And bring in highly paid technicians to maintain them. Plus it's been non stop construction over the last decade.

Instead of Oklahoma giving a ton of tax break to oil, maybe we should give it to windmill manufacturing to get some of those built in rural Oklahoma, where they are actually being installed.

So you think rural areas will survive off constructing wind mills in random areas, as of this is some type of job that can last a significant amount of time and is available within a reasonable distance of rural areas and that the majority of rural citizens can obtain jobs with this?

Are you not seeing how this doesn't add up ?

 

[MrSquished]

So you think rural areas will survive off constructing wind mills in random areas, as of this is some type of job that can last a significant amount of time and is available within a reasonable distance of rural areas and that the majority of rural citizens can obtain jobs with this?

Are you not seeing how this doesn't add up ?

So keep them off the information superhighway and spurn investment in green energy infrastructure.

You sir are a genius.

 

[woolfe9998]

So keep them off the information superhighway and spurn investment in green energy infrastructure.

You sir are a genius.

He might be. If we just blow them off and bring all the green jobs to the urban areas while ignoring rural infrastructure, many will have to move to cities.

 

[brandonbull]

Just a note here, in case anyone has forgotten. Biden did not even endorse the Green New Deal.

And I guess he doesn't think China is not a threat? I guess someone forgot to tell his website content people.

Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden

Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.

joebiden.com

From his website: "Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face."

 

[zzyzxroad]

So you think rural areas will survive off constructing wind mills in random areas, as of this is some type of job that can last a significant amount of time and is available within a reasonable distance of rural areas and that the majority of rural citizens can obtain jobs with this?

Are you not seeing how this doesn't add up ?

Maybe the answer is to let corporations exploit legally hired unskilled labor and have rural America caravan out to where the jobs are? Win win right? No reason for illegals to come here if we have US citizens we can exploit. We can establish a rural American minimum wage and a 20% off Greyhound discount to cover moving.

 

[brandonbull]

Yes we know, Joe Biden is a radical leftist tool that touches little kids.

I now before your superior intellect.

Ok. You went on a weird pedophilia rant. Maybe you should check out Thailand?

 

[MrSquished]

Ok. You went on a weird pedophilia rant. Maybe you should check out Thailand?

You quoted my post where I complained about the amount of right wing dipshits I see that are online claiming Joe Biden is a radical and a pedo and it's driving me to want out.

Try to keep up with the conversation. I know it's hard. Words and sentences, they can really mess with you.

 

[ondma]

All in simply asking is for someone.... Anyone... To mention what specific jobs will be brought to rural areas and why.

E.g. if you say... Manufacturing solar panels, you would mention that - and specifically why that would be brought back while other manufacturing has continued to be outsourced. No one has been able to even name one position - let alone a reason why it would exist in rural areas.

Did you ever hear of "selective perception"? Honestly you are just like Trump when he says "I dont know that guy", immediately followed by pictures of them together.

 

[Blackjack200]

All in simply asking is for someone.... Anyone... To mention what specific jobs will be brought to rural areas and why.

E.g. if you say... Manufacturing solar panels, you would mention that - and specifically why that would be brought back while other manufacturing has continued to be outsourced. No one has been able to even name one position - let alone a reason why it would exist in rural areas.

Well, outsourcing is the result of public policy. In your example, the government contract would simply specify that the panels be manufactured in a certain location. But to be clear there are also plenty of job types that can't be practically outsourced. Large construction initiatives like building a nationwide passenger rail system require a lot of onsite work. Or going back to solar panels, even if it became clear that the best way to proceed would be to import foreign made panels, there would still be a huge amount of work to do to install the panels and tie them into the power grid.