Why didn't Trump condemn white supremacists?

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uclaLabrat

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I dont think trump is even sophisticated enough to be racist, as sad as that is. Hes a narcissist; if narcissists support him, hes for them, and vice versa. He sees the whole world as transactional.
 

blackangst1

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Im not sure why he was even asked that question since he's publicly denounced them already in March: "“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
 
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Pure opinion here.
The President has a Father who did not love him.
He is seeking a daddy to love him. That daddy could be anyone, Proud Boys, QAnon, Vladimir Putin, King Jong Un.
The President is shouting love me daddy every chance.
He needs anyone who is willing to love him.
 

HomerJS

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Im not sure why he was even asked that question since he's publicly denounced them already in March: "“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
So this was the first time a politician was asked a question twice? Grow up. He denounced them once but tacitly supported them or pretended not to know at other times. How are we supposed to know which is correct? Now we know.

How many times has Biden been asked about the 94 crime bill?
 

Vic

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Im not sure why he was even asked that question since he's publicly denounced them already in March: "“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
People who actually condemn racists and white supremacists (or any other form of violent ideological extremism) aren't afraid to do so repeatedly.
 
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blackangst1

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So this was the first time a politician was asked a question twice? Grow up. He denounced them once but tacitly supported them or pretended not to know at other times. How are we supposed to know which is correct? Now we know.

How many times has Biden been asked about the 94 crime bill?

Once? LOL

1) “I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate. I don’t like it, any group of hate, whether its white supremacy, whether it’s any other kind of supremacy, whether its antifa… I am very concerned about it and I’ll do something about it.” – Business Insider, 8/7/2019
2) “The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. We have asked the FBI to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism – whatever they need.” – National Review, 8/06/2019
3) “The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division,” Trump posted on Twitter Saturday morning. “We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!” – USA Today, 8/11/2018
4) “I want to applaud the many protestors in Boston who are speaking out against bigotry and hate. Our country will soon come together as one!” – Trump Tweet, 8/19/2017
5) “We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all its forms, and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people.” – Washington Examiner, 6/16/2016
6) “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.” – Trump in his famous remarks about Charlottesville, 8/15/2017
7) “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” – NPR, 8/14/2017
8) “I don’t want to energize the (Alt-Right), and I disavow the group,” Trump told Baquet. “It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.” Asked point-blank about the conference featuring (Richard) Spencer, Trump again disavowed any support. “I disavow and condemn them,” Trump told Times reporters. He did chide them for continuing to ask about the topic though, telling one questioner: “Boy, you are really into [this issue].” – Politico, 11/22/2016
9) “I don’t like any group of hate. Hate groups are not for me. How many times do I have to reject? I’ve rejected David Duke. I’ve rejected the KKK, the Ku Klux Klan, from the time I’m five-years-old.” – The Washington Examiner, 3/6/2016
10) “I totally disavow the Ku Klux Klan. I totally disavow David Duke.” – The Hill, 3/3/2016
11) “David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,” Trump said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK,” Trump added. “Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.” – CNN, 3/3/2016
12) “David Duke and all was disavowed. I disavowed him on Friday. I disavowed them right after that because I thought if there was any question and you take a look at Twitter, almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook, they were disavowed again. I disavow him every time I speak to somebody virtually and they just keep it going.” – ABC, 3/1/2016
13) “I disavowed David Duke a day before in a major press conference, and I’m saying to myself: How many times do I have to continue to disavow people…” – NBC, 2/29/2016
14) “David Duke endorsed me? OK, alright. I disavow, OK?” – The Hill, 2/26/2016
15) “I don’t need (David Duke’s) endorsement; I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement.” – Politico, 8/26/2015
16) “Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined (the Reform Party) – a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.” – NBC News, 2/24/2000
17) “I’ve had the chance to learn firsthand about the diversity of American culture, and it has left me with little appetite for those who hate or preach intolerance. One of our next president’s most important goals must be to induce a greater sense of tolerance for diversity.” – Donald Trump in his book, The America We Deserve, published 1/12/200
 
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rommelrommel

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Im not sure why he was even asked that question since he's publicly denounced them already in March: "“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

He only denounces the beyond the pale outright and openly murderous. Any group that gives themselves the slightest bit of cover are “good people” so long as they support him.
 
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blackangst1

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He only denounces the beyond the pale outright and openly murderous. Any group that gives themselves the slightest bit of cover are “good people” so long as they support him.

So you'll agree he has denounced white supremacists and the KKK (which many have said he's never done lol)? Or is the above listed 17 times he's done it not enough?
 

SteveGrabowski

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I tried to remain neutral and hold the US government to some similar standard that I hold my own government, but that was the biggest mistake I ever made when peering into US Politics. I made the same mistake with the US Police forces.

I genuinely went into the idea of Trump being "racist" along the lines of "Surely, the most powerful man in the most powerful 'civilised' country would not be a racist elitist?" because I genuinely am Naive and thought better of the USA. That was a mistake.

Trump has said things that skirt the boundary of open racism so many times, even crossing that border that I am shocked, and appalled that this man is in such a position of power.

It is another reason on the huge list of reasons that I have to dislike Donald Trump, sitting on the growing pile like his complete and utter disregard for climate change and environmental protection - undoing all of Obama''s Administrations progress towards being more Green.

Trump's government destroyed the environment, it destroys international relations, and it destroys racial equality all in the name of some basic, pure human greed and elitism.

Trump should not even be standing for an election. He should be arrested. America under trump has fallen so far behind the rest of the civilised world in basic things that I am, as a Foreigner to the USA (I'm British) genuinely putting the USA on the list of countries I wouldn't want to visit because I wouldn't feel safe.

/rant.

The United States is a shithole with nukes.
 
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HomerJS

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Once? LOL

1) “I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate. I don’t like it, any group of hate, whether its white supremacy, whether it’s any other kind of supremacy, whether its antifa… I am very concerned about it and I’ll do something about it.” – Business Insider, 8/7/2019
2) “The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. We have asked the FBI to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism – whatever they need.” – National Review, 8/06/2019
3) “The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division,” Trump posted on Twitter Saturday morning. “We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!” – USA Today, 8/11/2018
4) “I want to applaud the many protestors in Boston who are speaking out against bigotry and hate. Our country will soon come together as one!” – Trump Tweet, 8/19/2017
5) “We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all its forms, and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people.” – Washington Examiner, 6/16/2016
6) “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.” – Trump in his famous remarks about Charlottesville, 8/15/2017
7) “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” – NPR, 8/14/2017
8) “I don’t want to energize the (Alt-Right), and I disavow the group,” Trump told Baquet. “It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.” Asked point-blank about the conference featuring (Richard) Spencer, Trump again disavowed any support. “I disavow and condemn them,” Trump told Times reporters. He did chide them for continuing to ask about the topic though, telling one questioner: “Boy, you are really into [this issue].” – Politico, 11/22/2016
9) “I don’t like any group of hate. Hate groups are not for me. How many times do I have to reject? I’ve rejected David Duke. I’ve rejected the KKK, the Ku Klux Klan, from the time I’m five-years-old.” – The Washington Examiner, 3/6/2016
10) “I totally disavow the Ku Klux Klan. I totally disavow David Duke.” – The Hill, 3/3/2016
11) “David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,” Trump said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK,” Trump added. “Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.” – CNN, 3/3/2016
12) “David Duke and all was disavowed. I disavowed him on Friday. I disavowed them right after that because I thought if there was any question and you take a look at Twitter, almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook, they were disavowed again. I disavow him every time I speak to somebody virtually and they just keep it going.” – ABC, 3/1/2016
13) “I disavowed David Duke a day before in a major press conference, and I’m saying to myself: How many times do I have to continue to disavow people…” – NBC, 2/29/2016
14) “David Duke endorsed me? OK, alright. I disavow, OK?” – The Hill, 2/26/2016
15) “I don’t need (David Duke’s) endorsement; I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement.” – Politico, 8/26/2015
16) “Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined (the Reform Party) – a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.” – NBC News, 2/24/2000
17) “I’ve had the chance to learn firsthand about the diversity of American culture, and it has left me with little appetite for those who hate or preach intolerance. One of our next president’s most important goals must be to induce a greater sense of tolerance for diversity.” – Donald Trump in his book, The America We Deserve, published 1/12/200
When a President of the United States fails to condemn the #1 terrorist threat in the country you cannot equate that to anything else.

Also Joe Biden has been asked about the crime bill at least that many times. Also look at those quotes. Most were written for him. That hardly counts.
 
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HomerJS

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I dont think trump is even sophisticated enough to be racist, as sad as that is. Hes a narcissist; if narcissists support him, hes for them, and vice versa. He sees the whole world as transactional.
Black people applying to get in his apartments were agnostic as to supporting him yet he discriminated against them.
 

blackangst1

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When a President of the United States fails to condemn the #1 terrorist threat in the country you cannot equate that to anything else.

Also Joe Biden has been asked about the crime bill at least that many times. Also look at those quotes. Most were written for him. That hardly counts.

He's denounced them at least 17 times. So what you mean is, when he fails to do it on demand? Because he surely has not failed to do it. You just refuse to admit it.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Not when he refused to denounce them last night. How is this not clear?
Also if you really believe it is the easiest thing for a politician to denounce white supremacists. Trump's problem he doesn't believe so condemnations have to be written for him.
 
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HomerJS

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He's denounced them at least 17 times. So what you mean is, when he fails to do it on demand? Because he surely has not failed to do it. You just refuse to admit it.
If someone asks you do you love your wife or girlfriend or children is that tough to do on demand? Again, Biden has been answering the crime bill question way more then 17 times.
 
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blackangst1

Lifer
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If someone asks you do you love your wife or girlfriend or children is that tough to do on demand? Again, Biden has been answering the crime bill question way more then 17 times.

Thats not even a similar situation.

Look. I understand WHY so many people believe incorrectly that Trump doesnt denounce white supremacy etc...because the media doesnt focus on that so people just dont know he's done it so many times. I was simply responding to youre false statement "He denounced them once ". So you can either believe or not he's done it many times, I dont care. The proof was posted.

As far as creating theories on why after saying "Sure" to Chris Wallace's question, then going off on ANTIFA, Ill leave that up to you.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Thats not even a similar situation.

Look. I understand WHY so many people believe incorrectly that Trump doesnt denounce white supremacy etc...because the media doesnt focus on that so people just dont know he's done it so many times. I was simply responding to youre false statement "He denounced them once ". So you can either believe or not he's done it many times, I dont care. The proof was posted.

As far as creating theories on why after saying "Sure" to Chris Wallace's question, then going off on ANTIFA, Ill leave that up to you.
I use that as an example to show if you really believe something it's a very easy impromptu question. Like I've said many times politicians are asked the same question many times. Have you ever heard Trump equivocate on his love for fast food? Has he ever said "I've never heard of KFC?

Police during an investigation will ask the same question many times. If you are telling the truth there is only one version. If you are lying you often get tripped up. Trump frequently gets tripped up with the white supremacist question.

Let me ask you if tomorrow Joe Biden said Hunter accepted bribes from Ukraine would you believe it? After all he has denied it at least 17 times
 
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