Why do cat owners think it's acceptable to let their mongrels roam the neighborhood?

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JRich

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI
Cats are supposed to be outside, especially at night. Besides if the cat wanders into your yard and the dog is there, the cat is going to leave there pretty fast.

Cats are NOT SUPPOSED to be outside. If they roam into my yard and become a constant nuisance I am going to trap it and you will never see it again. Go ahead, let your cat roam.

You are a horrible person. Fvck you.


He's not a horrible person. He did the humane and legal thing and brought the animal to the SPCA, where it can be given another chance at getting an owner that can care for it.

Sort of like if you have kids with deadbeat parents that don't feed them and don't care for them, the state will step in and take the children away. Sure, the deadbeat parents hate that, but it's in the kids' best interest.

Actually, the cat is going to die before anyone adopts it.

I don't understand what people are so upset about with outside cats? How the fvck does a cat destroy your property???? A dog will tear your sh!t up if it gets out, but a cat?


A cat scratched the living hell out of my car's paint job. I'd love to find out who it belongs to so I can hand them a bill and a photo of the cat caught in the act.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: bctbct
My cats are happier. They reach for the doorknob when they are ready to go out and lay on the floor with a smile on their face after bringing home a mouse.

Quality of life FTW

Interesting. My cats lay out on my floor with "a smile on their face" constantly, and they never go outside. They purr about 50% of their waking life and get plenty of play and exercise. They don't have any diseases or parasites at the moment and aren't exposed to any. And they will likely live a long time. Quality+Longevity of life FTW.

 

UDT89

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I didn't say they were people, to look dumb one just adds in things that were not said.

Originally posted by: UDT89
how does a cat damage property any more than a squirrel or a raccoon does

You're kidding, right?

no not kidding. i have never seen a cat do more than scratch the corner of a fence.

cats that scratch car's? where do you people live?

 

torpid

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Originally posted by: UDT89
no not kidding. i have never seen a cat do more than scratch the corner of a fence.

cats that scratch car's? where do you people live?

Planet Earth. And you?

Cats with claws that walk on cars... almost a guranteed scratch.

They also dig up a lot of various plants either to attempt to eat them or to use the soil as a litterbox.

Sometimes they spray to mark territory.

What do the cats on your planet do? Are you on the planet where they fly saucer-shaped ships and curse at mark hamill?

 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: UDT89
no not kidding. i have never seen a cat do more than scratch the corner of a fence.

cats that scratch car's? where do you people live?

Planet Earth. And you?

Cats with claws that walk on cars... almost a guranteed scratch.

They also dig up a lot of various plants either to attempt to eat them or to use the soil as a litterbox.

Sometimes they spray to mark territory.

What do the cats on your planet do? Are you on the planet where they fly saucer-shaped ships and curse at mark hamill?

Well my cat sleeps on our car almost every day, and the worst I've seen him do is leave paw marks on the car.

Oh, also, my cat doesn't take our plants out (and the same goes for every cat around).

My cat also hates being left alone in the house (even for two minutes), and loves to go outside and play or do whatever he does. He comes and goes as he likes (although, he's outside if nobody's home) He rarely (if ever) leaves our property, and the worst I've seen him do is walk out to the street.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: linkgoron
Well my cat sleeps on our car almost every day, and the worst I've seen him do is leave paw marks on the car.

Oh, also, my cat doesn't take our plants out (and the same goes for every cat around).

My cat also hates being left alone in the house (even for two minutes), and loves to go outside and play or do whatever he does. He comes and goes as he likes (although, he's outside if nobody's home) He rarely (if ever) leaves our property, and the worst I've seen him do is walk out to the street.

Does your cat have front claws?

Regardless, your cat does not represent all cats in the known universe. Believe it or not there are cats that don't behave exactly the same as yours. There are plenty of cats that do leave claw marks on cars, dig up plants, etc. There's a reason why cat repellant products exist.
 

TheNinja

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I would make a crack about getting rid of cats, but the mods around here are VERY against saying anything bad about cats or dogs so I won't. I hate cats though and I agree that people should keep their friggin' cats (and other pets) off of my yard before I flip out and seppuku them!
 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: linkgoron
Well my cat sleeps on our car almost every day, and the worst I've seen him do is leave paw marks on the car.

Oh, also, my cat doesn't take our plants out (and the same goes for every cat around).

My cat also hates being left alone in the house (even for two minutes), and loves to go outside and play or do whatever he does. He comes and goes as he likes (although, he's outside if nobody's home) He rarely (if ever) leaves our property, and the worst I've seen him do is walk out to the street.

Does your cat have front claws?

Regardless, your cat does not represent all cats in the known universe. Believe it or not there are cats that don't behave exactly the same as yours. There are plenty of cats that do leave claw marks on cars, dig up plants, etc. There's a reason why cat repellant products exist.

Yes my cat has front claws.

I forgot to mention (although I did say "and the same goes for every cat around") I live in an area with lots of cats walking around (10s), so while my cat is not all cats, none of them has even scratched our car.
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Why do people who own children think it's ok to let them roam the neighborhood? They tear stuff up, make LOTS of noise, damage cars, break windows, ring doorbells, and generally create nuisances of them selves...
Keep your dammed kids home!

Seriously. I fail to see how this is a problem- cats can take care of themselves, and know to not wander into a big dog's yard. And if they don't, well then Darwin takes care of the dumb ones.
 

QueBert

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I'll say this again, if a cat is scratching up your cars paint job at all, you have a seriously bad $99 Earl Shibe(sp?) paintjob. Could a cat's claws cause damage to a paintjob? MAYBE if the cat really tried, but even then I have doubts. Besides cats like to scratch sh!t they can dig their claws into, like a Tree or Fence, cats ain't Wolveriene they have fairly delicate claws.

hummmm!!! y'all are so quick to say "I know it was a fvckin cat who scratched up my cars paint!" Without proof, maybe it's Wolveriene using his razor-sharp retractable claws who's fvuckin up your car while you sleep. But, oh no, blame the cat, they are notorious for causing huge amounts of property damage, damn those felines!

also cat's typically *I said typically* won't eat plants, they will eat grass to help calm their stomache if they're feeling sick. But only an anal tard would get upset at a cat munchin on a few blades of grass. Cats like Fish, Birds, Mice, not Roses & Sunflowers!!!

to all you cat haters who say "well just because your cat doesn't do [insert devious/destructive] thing, doesn't mean other cats don't either. I can 100% agree with you on that. But, how about you flip that, just because your neighbor has one cookey cat who likes to eat your flowers and scratch up your car, doesn't mean other cats do the same.

see how logic works? And stereotyping all cats based off one is just as dumb as racism.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I'll say this again, if a cat is scratching up your cars paint job at all, you have a seriously bad $99 Earl Shibe(sp?) paintjob. Could a cat's claws cause damage to a paintjob? MAYBE if the cat really tried, but even then I have doubts. Besides cats like to scratch sh!t they can dig their claws into, like a Tree or Fence, cats ain't Wolveriene they have fairly delicate claws.

I love cats, but this blurb above is extremely wrong. A cat can scratch the paint when it alerts to prey/or 'predator' while sitting on top of it and bolts. Cat's claws can pierce leather pretty easy for the larger ones.

Originally posted by: QueBert
also cat's typically *I said typically* won't eat plants, they will eat grass to help calm their stomache if they're feeling sick. But only an anal tard would get upset at a cat munchin on a few blades of grass. Cats like Fish, Birds, Mice, not Roses & Sunflowers!!!

they destroy gardens from urination and digging, not the actually eating. However; animals will eat things they shouldn't.

Originally posted by: QueBert
see how logic works? And stereotyping all cats based off one is just as dumb as racism.

Still most outdoor cats will provide a nuisance to some people...that's not really a stereotype. All in all, I think the stereotype problem has been too politicalized. There are some subsets of each major ethnic group that the majority in that subset are of a ethnic base. You will still have some blending...but you can definitely track trends.

Today though, it's about everyone needs to win; it's not fair if they don't


 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: jbourne77

Wasn't talking to you. I don't normally even read your posts. I have no idea what you've posted in this thread.

It's a similar trend, but different in the aspect you were referring too.


Originally posted by: jbourne77
Not exactly sure what you mean, but whatever Haus.
it's Hoss.

Still, pets: dog, cat or whatever should not be outside, domestication is the key here. My neighbor probably doesn't want to hear my music, see how I walk around my house, observe my sexual practices, eat what I eat, have my pets in their place/yard...I live in society, no matter if I have a HOA or not...if I prefer otherwise it's up to me to move.



Originally posted by: UDT89
how does a cat damage property any more than a squirrel or a raccoon does

You're kidding, right?[/quote]

 

JMag

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Cats were essential to the begennings of human civilization. The reason they were revered by the ancient Egyptians is because they protected the grain stores. Egyptians whole society was dependent off agriculture of the Nile, that was in essence protected by cats that eliminated rodents eating their master's food stores.

Later when humans shunned them in the Dark Ages because of relation to witchcraft, what happend? The Black Plague.

Now their utility has diminished, except for in rural areas. However, I have seen studies that people live longer if they own one (or a dog for that matter).
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: Robor
IMO, domesticated cats should be kept inside. I own a cat and have owned several over my lifetime. My cat's always stay indoors. Why? Because they are cleaner - no dirt and ticks/fleas to deal with. They are healthier - far less chance of illness. And they are safer - no chance of getting in a fight, falling from a tree, caught in a motor (belt), run over, or killed by some worthless fvck who thinks he's a man because he can kill a cat.


My cats are happier. They reach for the doorknob when they are ready to go out and lay on the floor with a smile on their face after bringing home a mouse.

Quality of life FTW

that is the most stupid justification in an argument I have read.

Kids try to get out too, they usually come home happy as well. They is a lot that is overlooked and missed in such a statement.

More than likely, however; like many pet owners...your pet is just a fixture and is lacking the attention it needs to be happy.

When my wife and I are home our cats are usually around one or both of us. They know the sound as we pull up in the driveway and come to the window, then run for the door.

They usually sleep anywhere during the day, but at night they sleep in our bedroom when they do.

Most people with cats do not socialize them properly, thinking at the very worst; they are something you let inside as you leave for work in the morning and throw outside when you get home at night. At the usual best, many just bring a cat home give it a week or two of partial attention and then wonder why it learns bad habits, runs when they try to touch it, etc.


Tell you what, let your cat outside a few times and I will guarantee they would rather be outside then hanging out with you cooped up in the house when you are gone.

My cats are very social and members of the family so dont assume that they come from a "broken home"

They have the best of both worlds.

And since there is no leash law reguarding cats in my community....well tht settles that.
 

udonoogen

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: QueBert
I'll say this again, if a cat is scratching up your cars paint job at all, you have a seriously bad $99 Earl Shibe(sp?) paintjob. Could a cat's claws cause damage to a paintjob? MAYBE if the cat really tried, but even then I have doubts. Besides cats like to scratch sh!t they can dig their claws into, like a Tree or Fence, cats ain't Wolveriene they have fairly delicate claws.

there were some some scratches from the neighboring cat on my car after i gave it a good wax. stupid cat decided to play slip and slide on my hood.

when my car is dirty ive seen paw prints on the back windshield. i hate that cat.
 

Dobbs

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I have 2 cats but do understand the hate some people have for them. We used to have a destructive to automobiles cat on our street. What I did is get one of those pet trainer ultrasonic devices, set it on high and kept blasting the cat till it would not come around any longer. I still see that cat but its down the street where its home is. It learned to stay away so the training device did its job. Of course I had to work for it and it took time but it worked in the end.
Generaly cats are decent animals and very social. My previous two cats (RIP) everyone around here loved them and I mean everyone from the small kids to the old geezers. They were just awesome critters with lots of personality. My current cats are inhouse and not allowed outside since our new neighboors like to drink and have about 15 people living in a three bedroom house. They get drunk and do stupid things, hence forth the death of my previous two cats. Neighbors were drunk and ran them over purposly. The driver of the car was locked up for a few years not just for animal cruelty but for violating probation for previous drunk driving.

My grandma has a yappy little dog that wont stop barking. The people in the home behind me have a pit bull that wont stop barking forcing me to call animal control on them. Next step is taking them to court and having the city to remove the pet from thier property. At least my grandmas dog is in the house, this other dog is about 10 feet from my bedroom window and does not shut up at night, all night, every night, none stop, bark bark bark....

I used to have large dogs myself and they were very well cared for and disciplined. Thats something most dog owners dont seem to understand much anymore.

Dogs vs cats, cats vs dogs, ford vs chevy, chevy vs ford....
Its all whatever each individual believes and the battle will never end because each side is always right no matter what.


 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Tell you what, let your cat outside a few times and I will guarantee they would rather be outside then hanging out with you cooped up in the house when you are gone.

My cats are very social and members of the family so dont assume that they come from a "broken home"

They have the best of both worlds.

And since there is no leash law reguarding cats in my community....well tht settles that.

I can try heroin a few times and I'd be going back to it probably regularly too.

Obviously you lack any true understanding of a cat's life outdoors.

Your best of both worlds is enjoying them each for about 3-5 years at best vs around 15 years on average for enjoying the outdoors. My cat's are hardly bored nor cooped up. They have a box of toys we constantly add too. Plus having three of them here gives them playmates and alone time when wanted.

 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: bctbct
Tell you what, let your cat outside a few times and I will guarantee they would rather be outside then hanging out with you cooped up in the house when you are gone.

My cats are very social and members of the family so dont assume that they come from a "broken home"

They have the best of both worlds.

And since there is no leash law reguarding cats in my community....well tht settles that.

I can try heroin a few times and I'd be going back to it probably regularly too.

Obviously you lack any true understanding of a cat's life outdoors.

Your best of both worlds is enjoying them each for about 3-5 years at best vs around 15 years on average for enjoying the outdoors. My cat's are hardly bored nor cooped up. They have a box of toys we constantly add too. Plus having three of them here gives them playmates and alone time when wanted.


Well my cat has been with me for the last 11 years.

I can try heroin a few times and I'd be going back to it probably regularly too.

Obviously you lack any true understanding of a cat's life outdoors.
Obviously going outside is a drug that makes the cat's brain addicted.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: linkgoron

Well my cat has been with me for the last 11 years.

That is extremely rare. What type of setting do you live? Rural, city, etc. Either way even rural outdoor cats usually don't make it to double digits, troll cats aside though or very lucky ones.

I can try heroin a few times and I'd be going back to it probably regularly too.

Obviously you lack any true understanding of a cat's life outdoors.
Obviously going outside is a drug that makes the cat's brain addicted.

It has to do with what's fun to do, vs what's right/safe to do...

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