Why do cat owners think it's acceptable to let their mongrels roam the neighborhood?

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts, however the post from which the material is quoted from is pure and utter stupidity.

Yeah, I know. Of course, it makes me wonder on which issues I make statements that are equally bad.

Originally posted by: mean6

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

*snip*
You sir are a douche, so go home and douche de douche de douche de douche you douche!

I'm sure this point will be wasted on you, but futile arguments are what ATOT is all about

The issue isn't legality or acceptible social behavior or anything like that. Yes, you have the right to deal with a cat that keeps on going on your property and causing you trouble.

The issue is how you choose to deal with it. A nice neighbor and good person would, perhaps, trap the animal, take it over to the neighbor's house, and explain the problem. You know, talk it over. A more mean-spirited or lazy person would try to scare off the cat, get a dog, or take other, less mature steps to correct the problem. Trying to kill the animal is another level, but even that can be done in a more acceptible manner.

You, however, have chosen to give the cat a consumately cruel and painful death. That indicates an appallingly low level of civility, respect, and maturity.

The issue isn't even about animal rights. If I were to trip over a loose tile at my local grocery store, I could take it a number of ways from there. I could notify them of the problem, and suggest they get it fixed before someone gets hurt. I could try to score some free groceries in exchange for keeping quiet. Or I could sue them for millions of dollars. Which is the more socially responsible and mature attitude?

That is all.

 

[Vich]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts, however the post from which the material is quoted from is pure and utter stupidity.

Yeah, I know. Of course, it makes me wonder on which issues I make statements that are equally bad.

Originally posted by: mean6

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

*snip*
You sir are a douche, so go home and douche de douche de douche de douche you douche!

I'm sure this point will be wasted on you, but futile arguments are what ATOT is all about

The issue isn't legality or acceptible social behavior or anything like that. Yes, you have the right to deal with a cat that keeps on going on your property and causing you trouble.

The issue is how you choose to deal with it. A nice neighbor and good person would, perhaps, trap the animal, take it over to the neighbor's house, and explain the problem. You know, talk it over. A more mean-spirited or lazy person would try to scare off the cat, get a dog, or take other, less mature steps to correct the problem. Trying to kill the animal is another level, but even that can be done in a more acceptible manner.

You, however, have chosen to give the cat a consumately cruel and painful death. That indicates an appallingly low level of civility, respect, and maturity.

The issue isn't even about animal rights. If I were to trip over a loose tile at my local grocery store, I could take it a number of ways from there. I could notify them of the problem, and suggest they get it fixed before someone gets hurt. I could try to score some free groceries in exchange for keeping quiet. Or I could sue them for millions of dollars. Which is the more socially responsible and mature attitude?

That is all.

Actually, jagec, Animal Police/Control can hold him guilty for animal cruelty. As a responsible citizen you shoulod call animal control/police to come get the animal. If they 'somehow' found out that he was leaving out pans of anti-freeze/coolant so wandering animals will get poisoned and die, he could be held liable. Regardless if they are cats, dogs, skunks or what else.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BroeBo
The world is filled with idiots and this thread is a perfect example.

WHO THE FVCK CARES IF THERE ARE CATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.




OMG they are going to rape your daughter! Oh noes!

edit: Oh and for you mother fvckers who think poisoning animals in your neighborhood is funny, I hope you enjoy it when someone comes to you house and kicks your ass. I know I would be doing just that if I ever found out. Your not only killing "that pesky cat" you fvcktard.

I f*cking care thats who and a whole bunch of other people as well. my small town has a huge problem with ferrell cats (wild cats). those pest have turned our garden into a fricken litter box and you damn near need a hazmat suit to get near it. last month i was in the back yard getting stuff out of my shed and went inside for about 30 min for something and when i came out one got in my shed and sprayed all inside my shed. do you know how bad that cat spray stinks? its been a month and the stink is still in there.

so tell me why should i have to deal with this? Tell me why i have to have my property damaged due to stray cats? oh and the county wont do anything about it. they wont even take cats that have been trapped. how do i know? because my neighbors trapped a couple and the county told them no, dont bring them here we have no room. So tell me what is a home owner to do about a pest problem like stray cats when no agency will take them? ill tell you what we do, we follow the suggestion of the county and take care of the problem ourselves. and that is what we do.

Looks like someone doesn't know the difference between a feral cat and a house pet. They are two different categories, and not necessarily related, especially if the pet is spade/neutered.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Vich

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts

not in cat/animal posts.

Thats why i said usually!.

And the fool with usmc at the end of his username must be making up for his small genitals. Are you so much of a pussy that you need to shoot animals dead if they go on your porch? Big deal a ****** skunk or racoon. You must be a real redneck to sit around with shotguns waiting for some 'wild animal' to come onto your property.

hay why are you making fun of them? you never had a terrifying Tabby loose on your front porch? What if he had to go outside to get the mail or something, the cat might try to rub up against his leg. I won't even mention to the redneck how a simple holler or clap of your hands will send all cats running away like, well a scaredy cat.

Cat haters are about as redilcious as racists with some of their statements and justifications.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: grrl
Looks like someone doesn't know the difference between a feral cat and a house pet. They are two different categories, and not necessarily related, especially if the pet is spade/neutered.

If the cat is on/in one of my cars or using my front flowerbed as a litterbox then there is no distinction between feral or pet....if it is outside roaming around on my property it is a nuisance and will be dealt with.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Czar
good article on the subject
http://cats.about.com/cs/catmanagement101/a/in_out_one.htm

but.. here is something else
http://www.cathelp-online.com/health/indooronly.php
"FACT: The average life span of an outdoor cat is 2.5 years of age. The average life span for an indoor cat is 17 years of age."
the most extreme of both outdoors and indoors, presented as fact, doesnt this show how those numbers in general are out of whack?

I totally agree, my mom had a bunch of cats, a few died from cancer or something out of anybodies hands. They were all outdoor cats and most lived very long lives. 15+ years.
I will say from the way some of these people are talking about how much they hate cats, and shooting/poisoning them, it's not surprising they only live 2.5 years in some areas

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Vich

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts

not in cat/animal posts.

Thats why i said usually!.

And the fool with usmc at the end of his username must be making up for his small genitals. Are you so much of a pussy that you need to shoot animals dead if they go on your porch? Big deal a ****** skunk or racoon. You must be a real redneck to sit around with shotguns waiting for some 'wild animal' to come onto your property.

hay why are you making fun of them? you never had a terrifying Tabby loose on your front porch? What if he had to go outside to get the mail or something, the cat might try to rub up against his leg. I won't even mention to the redneck how a simple holler or clap of your hands will send all cats running away like, well a scaredy cat.

Cat haters are about as redilcious as racists with some of their statements and justifications.

it comes down to this, its not your right to make the neihborhood your cats playground and litterbox.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Czar
good article on the subject
http://cats.about.com/cs/catmanagement101/a/in_out_one.htm

but.. here is something else
http://www.cathelp-online.com/health/indooronly.php
"FACT: The average life span of an outdoor cat is 2.5 years of age. The average life span for an indoor cat is 17 years of age."
the most extreme of both outdoors and indoors, presented as fact, doesnt this show how those numbers in general are out of whack?

I totally agree, my mom had a bunch of cats, a few died from cancer or something out of anybodies hands. They were all outdoor cats and most lived very long lives. 15+ years.
I will say from the way some of these people are talking about how much they hate cats, and shooting/poisoning them, it's not surprising they only live 2.5 years in some areas

we have had 4 indoor/outdoor cats first 2 both lived to be over 16, th3 oldes was put down at 22 because he had a bad liver

the 2 we have now are both 13 and are still crazy

that 2.5 years is BS

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Vich

Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts, however the post from which the material is quoted from is pure and utter stupidity.

Let me tell you a little story. I remember a friend and I were in the pet store, and they had a sugar glider in there. It was the cutest little thing just sitting there quietly. My friend blew on it. Not hard, just a little puff of air. That little thing let out the loudest, most deathly shriek I've heard from an animal. Everyone in the store started cracking up, and people kept blowing on it to hear the shriek.

Cat owners are much the same. That's one group where you're guaranteed to see someone flip out. Even after the conversation is over, they'll be ranting about it.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Let me tell you a little story. I remember a friend and I were in the pet store, and they had a sugar glider in there. It was the cutest little thing just sitting there quietly. My friend blew on it. Not hard, just a little puff of air. That little thing let out the loudest, most deathly shriek I've heard from an animal. Everyone in the store started cracking up, and people kept blowing on it to hear the shriek.

Cat owners are much the same. That's one group where you're guaranteed to see someone flip out. Even after the conversation is over, they'll be ranting about it.

91TTZ...there are 90 million pet cats in the US.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Let me tell you a little story. I remember a friend and I were in the pet store, and they had a sugar glider in there. It was the cutest little thing just sitting there quietly. My friend blew on it. Not hard, just a little puff of air. That little thing let out the loudest, most deathly shriek I've heard from an animal. Everyone in the store started cracking up, and people kept blowing on it to hear the shriek.

Cat owners are much the same. That's one group where you're guaranteed to see someone flip out. Even after the conversation is over, they'll be ranting about it.

91TTZ...there are 90 million pet cats in the US.

All of which are owned by 27 people.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: ballmode
I HATE CATS

I secretly try to poison my neighbors cats

Chris, I'm sure your neighbors on Paddington Ct. will be as interested in this public confession as will the Columbus police department.

Which would you like us to start contacting first? :|

AnandTech Moderator

Wow, apparently there is an Mod that has no sense of humor and likes to act like a total A-hole. I think this is the type of person everyone at work hates...

I thought that was a harsh way to deal with a joke myself.

it was a joke?

Not really to sure, thats the way I read it at first. Honestly, how can you tell on text like that? Even if it wasn't a joke, who cares? This is an online forum where people should be free to speak their mind, to a limited extent. Some power-trip mod things he can just ban people at the drop of a hat cause he disagrees with their opinion? Pfft, great place we have here. That Mod's a real piece of crap, IMO.

your avatar shows 2002 as your join date but it sounds like you just joined yesterday based on that comment. maybe you don't visit here often?

Ya ya, I know. This isn't a free speech place, we've gone through that before. But something about that mod's comment just really pissed me off. That guy should have never been banned, not even close. And the fact that the Mod would threaten him like that just really gets my blood boiling.

Amazing, you guys are never around when we talk about general free speech here, when people get banned for real minor infractions, but the moment someone gets in trouble for owning up to killing cats, you guys are all on the free speech bandwagon suddenly.

No, I was around for it. And I spoke out to a certain extent. Less so than a lot of others though. I tend to stay to myself around here. However something about this Mod's over-controlling actions really pissed me off. I know killing cats is against typical westerners 'morals', but lets be honest. The whole world doesn't feel that way. And this forum is compromised of many non-Americans. Furthermore, we still don't know the OP was joking or not. I honestly thought he was. This mod's got power-trip issues.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: SuperSix
Keep your Dog inside. And while you're at it, if you do decide to walk that beast, pick up the huge loads they leave. I had a corner lot for 6 years, and really hate pompous asses like yourself that didn't clean up after your pets. I love dodging doggy bombs from lazy dog owners. :|

So your big beef is that the cat is simply sitting there? Asshole neighbor of the year award is on it's way to you.

Asshole posting of the year for you! :beer: Where did I say I didn't clean up after my dog? ASSume much?

I clean up after my dog and don't let her wander off leash, EVER. I, too, get angry with dog owners who don't clean up their pup's messes because we have more than a handful around here. Irresponsible pet owners are just that -- irresponsible, regardless of whether they have cats or dogs.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
You are wraped way too tight for living. Grow up, and shut up while you're at it. Why must people get their panties in a twist over such small things? Do you honestly have nothing better to worry about?

And you took the time to post that? What does that say about you? Too funny!

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Leros
I've never once had a problem with cats roaming around. Its part of the neighborhood life.

Now dogs roaming around is a problem.

See, we used to have a MAJOR problem with cats roaming the neighborhood in Japan. We had a small yard out front, and the neighborhood cats adopted that as a litterbox. They literally killed the grass and made it smell so bad (high temp, high humidity and cat feces -- yum!) that we were at our wit's end trying to solve the problem short of killing them. I finally resorted to taking my dog out whenever we saw them and chasing them away, which finally worked after about 8 months.

Many of the cats were strays, which is a huge problem over there, but many of them were being fed by the neighbors. I could have left out some antifreeze, but I'm not heartless.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Vich

Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts, however the post from which the material is quoted from is pure and utter stupidity.

Let me tell you a little story. I remember a friend and I were in the pet store, and they had a sugar glider in there. It was the cutest little thing just sitting there quietly. My friend blew on it. Not hard, just a little puff of air. That little thing let out the loudest, most deathly shriek I've heard from an animal. Everyone in the store started cracking up, and people kept blowing on it to hear the shriek.

Cat owners are much the same. That's one group where you're guaranteed to see someone flip out. Even after the conversation is over, they'll be ranting about it.

Perhaps it is because there seems to be a general acceptance in US society that tolerates a level of cruelty when regarding cats that they would not tolerate with dogs and threads like this are ideal for the worlds knuckle draggers to come in and brag about what they perceive to be their cleverly unique ways of trying to deal pain to a neighbors pet. In addition any thread like this is guaranteed to bring out all the standard misinformation about cats such as "they have to be outside", "they spread disease", "they are killing all the birds" etc.

 

[torpid]

Jesus, some of you people don't have the slightest clue. Just because YOUR cat lived beyond the life expectancy of an outdoor cat doesn't mean that the life expectancy is false. What kind of crap are they teaching you in school? Similarly, if the life expectancy for a human is 80 years and george burns lived to 100, that doesn't disprove the life expectancy. I can't believe I have to spell this out, but apparently I do, because some of you don't seem to have the slightest grasp of what a life expectancy is or how to disprove something.

 

[Geocentricity]

My cat makes all the neighborhood cats his b!tch

 

[Slickone]

Strange after just reading this thread yesterday, I saw this on the news last night:
Child Attacked By Rotweiller
It seems like there's one a month (and probably many more that dont make it to TV news).
But according to some, I guess that's not as bad as a cat crapping in your already-stinky-to-begin-with mulch.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Slickone
Strange after just reading this thread yesterday, I saw this on the news last night:
Child Attacked By Rotweiller
It seems like there's one a month (and probably many more that dont make it to TV news).
But according to some, I guess that's not as bad as a cat crapping in your already-stinky-to-begin-with mulch.

WTF... that is the ultimate straw man argument of the universe, with bonus weasel word qualifiers and everything. Compete gibberish. I'm trying to figure out how your brain got from "cats shouldn't be let outdoors, even if they don't attack people" to "cats that don't attack people are worse than dogs that attack people". Did it take a lot of drugs or something?

 

[mordantmonkey]

because they don't notice the anti-freeze laced tuna cans that get left laying around the neighborhood?

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: torpid
Jesus, some of you people don't have the slightest clue. Just because YOUR cat lived beyond the life expectancy of an outdoor cat doesn't mean that the life expectancy is false. What kind of crap are they teaching you in school? Similarly, if the life expectancy for a human is 80 years and george burns lived to 100, that doesn't disprove the life expectancy. I can't believe I have to spell this out, but apparently I do, because some of you don't seem to have the slightest grasp of what a life expectancy is or how to disprove something.

the problem with these numbers, where are they getting the data? I mean it has to come from studying a certain area. Where I went to school it was the ghetto, dogs were roaming everywhere. I don't mean Poodles, but fvckin Rotties and such. A cat ouside in that area wouldn't live long sure. In my neighborhood cats were always outside and had no problems, We had no loose dogs, no crazy cat killing neighbors and very little traffic. So the main components were X'ed out. 2.5 can't be a reliable average when my mom has at least 12 cats since I was born and not one of them died even close to 2.5 years.

bottom line, if I lived in the Ghetto, no I wouldn't let my cat outside
I live in the lovely suburb's where all my neighbors let the cats roam, and nothing bad ever happens

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Slickone
Strange after just reading this thread yesterday, I saw this on the news last night:
Child Attacked By Rotweiller
It seems like there's one a month (and probably many more that dont make it to TV news).
But according to some, I guess that's not as bad as a cat crapping in your already-stinky-to-begin-with mulch.

cats attack children, do I have a link to prove this? unfourtinally not, but I saw a chilling montage on America's Funniest Home Videos. It was at least 6 different clips of kids being viciously mauled by house cats.

cats are teh evils!

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: QueBert
the problem with these numbers, where are they getting the data? I mean it has to come from studying a certain area.

I agree that the exact numbers are pretty suspect, but one doesn't disprove them by noting possible exceptions. I don't think there's any doubt that there is an impact, though.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: QueBert
the problem with these numbers, where are they getting the data? I mean it has to come from studying a certain area.

I agree that the exact numbers are pretty suspect, but one doesn't disprove them by noting possible exceptions. I don't think there's any doubt that there is an impact, though.

also was it cat haters who did the research? I bet I could find some Skinheads out here who could comes up with data to prove all black people are criminals.

what the study definitely doesn't touch on, is the owers. A sh!tty pet owner will contribute to stats like these.