Why do cat owners think it's acceptable to let their mongrels roam the neighborhood?

[DivideBYZero]

OMG!! A cat stepped on your lawn! CALL THE COPS!

Prick.

 

[GeorgiaBadger]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
Idiots moved into the neighborhood recently, and now we have a cat roaming the neighborhood. First off, I fail to see how having your pet roaming loose in the neighborhood is ever a good idea, but I also cannot imagine the gall of thinking that my neighbors would want my animal wandering around.

Second, what's amusing is that this is definitely a dog neighborhood -- probably every third house has a dog and about half of them are large breeds. Woe be the cat that wanders into the wrong yard.

Third, I was walking my dog, and this damn cat is sitting there. Now, my dog absolutely hates cats stemming from them invading our garage in our first house, but I've never let her go after them off-leash because I'm worried what she would do since she's a 75lb Rhodesian Ridgeback. I don't appreciate having this feline squatter lounging around interrupting my dog's walk, primarily because it disrupts her "business".

Keep your cats inside. :|

1: I agree that no animal should be allowed to roam in a neighborhood. But it happens and the owner should be notified.

2: Cats don't normally wander in my yard - 2 >100# dogs with doggy door access = lots of scent markings in the yard

3: I find that a perfect opportunity for training and/or reinforcement. I expect things to appear that will pique the dogs interest.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Perknose
Cats? Cats? It's those whippersnappers who let their kids roll their balls onto my lawn that I wave my cane at in apopletic fury.

:laugh: :thumbsup:



This thread makes me sick... :|

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Agreed, I have been looking for the original research and have been unable to find any. Very frustrating.

I think the one thing the are agreeing on is that letting your cat outdoors has a negative effect on it's lifespan. Pretty much all of them say that it cuts their life expectancy by at least half.

You've also got other reasons besides the animal's health for doing so, such as courtesy to your neighbors.

I think what is pulling the average lifespan of outdoors cats down are just the accidents and the spread of diseases. Those who live long live about the same as indoor cats but alot more die because of accidents. Then there is also the issue of the psychological issues which can affect an indoor only cat. Using that very same reason people might as well keep their kids inside.

But I agree with you about the neighbors. If your neighborhood is not cat friendly then it is reckless for the sakeof your cat and disrespectful in regards of your neighbors.

You may also be a bit limited in your view by where you live. There are actually quite a few things like foxes living where I live that can prey on cats as well. I'm not sure what kind of wildlife is native to Iceland that could prey on a domestic cat.

very true, the only animals dangerous to cats here are humans, dogs and other cats, and lately seaguls (mean motherfuckers)
but on the other hand we have cold (not as cold as some parts of the US though) and bad weather

You would be surprised at the harsh conditions cats can adapt to. I saw a special some years back that showed feral cats living on islands off of Cape Horn and Antarctica.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Still no "Why do cats think it's acceptable to let their owners roam the neighborhood" parody yet? Com'n fellas.

because parody = ban

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI
Cats are supposed to be outside, especially at night. Besides if the cat wanders into your yard and the dog is there, the cat is going to leave there pretty fast.

folklore. Also many dogs get maimed by feral cats when left tied in a back yard.

Your pets and kids (until they are responsible enough) should be outside only under supervision.

You live in a real farm town then feel free to let your animals roam your acres and acres....under 10 doesn't count.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Oh please, I live out in the country, and cats are not the only reason I have that little shotgun sitting there. Raccoons that get on the porch, and skunks also.

Only pussies leave their weapons locked up where they are useless.

And the little shotgun is far superior to a 22, sometimes they are moving and don't hold still. Quick, clean death.

If they are further out I might grab the AR or something like that, but the .410 usually does the trick.

sure ya do.

 

[randay]

The only thing I hate about all the cats in my neighborhood is that they climb on my car during the night, and when it rains their little muddy paw prints all over my fvcking car. stupid cats.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI
Cats are supposed to be outside, especially at night. Besides if the cat wanders into your yard and the dog is there, the cat is going to leave there pretty fast.

folklore. Also many dogs get maimed by feral cats when left tied in a back yard.

Your pets and kids (until they are responsible enough) should be outside only under supervision.

You live in a real farm town then feel free to let your animals roam your acres and acres....under 10 doesn't count.

Folklore.

 

[Ime]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI
Cats are supposed to be outside, especially at night. Besides if the cat wanders into your yard and the dog is there, the cat is going to leave there pretty fast.

folklore. Also many dogs get maimed by feral cats when left tied in a back yard.

Your pets and kids (until they are responsible enough) should be outside only under supervision.

You live in a real farm town then feel free to let your animals roam your acres and acres....under 10 doesn't count.

<- Grew up in a real farm town. Had dogs and cats. They lived indoors and outdoors. Had plenty of room to run around.

I don't own pets now living in the city. It just doesn't seem right to own a pet and keep it locked up in a small house.

 

[torpid]

As a cat owner, here's why I don't want YOUR cats running loose. I won't bother detailing why you are irresponsible to your own cat. Let's talk about why you are being irresponsible as far as a neighbor who owns cats is concerned.

1. It's illegal. Why are you above the law?

2. They can cause damage to my property (digging, spraying, defecating)

3. They spread disease. The ONLY reason I have to get my cats vaccinated against most diseases is because YOU are letting your cat roam free with who knows what diseases and parasites. The only exposure my cats get to that crap is from other cats on my property. Some of these things can be tracked into the house on a rainy muddy day (no, I'm not making that up, my vet warned me against this). Regardless of whether my cats get it, other animals are getting your cat's diseases.

4. They upset my cats. Telling someone who lets their cat wander to read some articles is probably pointless, but they do exist. And some of them relate the fact that an indoor cat who sees an intruder outdoors but can't get at the intruder to defend the property can redirect the aggression to other cats in the same house. This can cause serious damage to both cats and irreperable harm their relationship. My cat might also react by spraing my house or similar. I've heard of cats tearing up screen doors to get at intruders as well.

5. They upset wildlife. Whether or not feral cats are a serious extinction threat for song birds is debatable. But they definitely kill SOME birds. Are you going to come clean the mess up in my yard when your cat kills birds? And now I can't have a birdfeeder?

So stop being an irresponsible jerk and keep your cat indoors unless you live on a huge farm. That's what I do. And if your cat has too much energy, oh, I don't know, PLAY WITH IT?! It's not that hard... dog owners do it all the time.

 

[z42]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Czar
and look here, here is something else
http://www.alpha.pl/~cats/catsage.htm
"In general, cats live longer than most dogs. An average life span might be 12 to 14 years, with some cats reaching 20 and more. A cat's longevity depends on whether or not it lives indoors or is allowed outdoors (outdoor cats live an average of eight years), genetics, feeding, enviroment, veterinary care and some other factors. The general consensus is that at about age seven a cat can be considered "middle-aged", and at age 10 and beyond - old."

and
http://www.messybeast.com/longevity.htm
"In countries with good veterinary care, the average life-span of a neutered domestic cat (barring accidents) is considered to be 14 years old although there are signs that this may be increasing. More and more cats are reaching their late teens or early twenties. Life-span is determined by several factors: good genetics, good general care, good health care, good diet and a relatively safe environment. In the wild, cats fall victim to accidents, illnesses, food shortages and predators and may live 6-8 years."

and more

http://www.pawschicago.org/PetCare/catmisconcepts.htm
"Outdoor cats have an average life span of five to seven years, as opposed to their indoor counterparts, who frequently live to be 15 or older."

and yet more
http://www.cat-world.com.au/IndoorCats.htm
"On average, an indoor cat lives twelve years but some cats can live for as many as twenty years. In comparison, an outdoor cat?s life expectancy is less than five years."

and
http://www.keepgoing.org/issue12_heat/farm.asp?page=activism
"The average life span of an indoor cat is 18-20 years; the average life of an outdoor cat is about two years."

I can go on and on

http://www.northeastanimalshelter.org/scoop/tips/cat_outdoor.php
"The average life span of a cat that goes outdoors is less than two years, while an indoor cat often lives to be sixteen years old."

http://www.i-pets.com/petfunt-cat.html
"In general, cats live longer than most dogs. An average life span might be 12 to 14 years. Some cats are reaching 20 or more. A cat's longevity depends on feeding, genetics, environment, veterinary care and some other factors. It is also important whether or not the cat lives indoors or is allowed outdoors (outdoor cats live an average of eight years)"

http://www.orphankittenrescue.com/mambo...tent&task=blogcategory&id=69&Itemid=59
"An outdoor cat?s average life expectancy is six to 10 years. An indoor cat?s life expectancy is 16 to 20."

http://www.petco.com/Content/Article.as...ID=&id=181&ArticleID=181&categoryID=15
"Indoor cats have an average life span of 12 - 20 years when compared to 1 - 5 years for a cat kept outdoors. "

no one is agreeing with anything! so we cant for a fact say anything except that on average indoors cats live longer than outdoor cats

Agreed, I have been looking for the original research and have been unable to find any. Very frustrating.

I think the one thing the are agreeing on is that letting your cat outdoors has a negative effect on it's lifespan. Pretty much all of them say that it cuts their life expectancy by at least half.

You've also got other reasons besides the animal's health for doing so, such as courtesy to your neighbors.

Quite the shocker huh? Pet lovers are like some other special interest groups out there; they don't care if what they say is true, they just figure if they say it 1000 times everyone will start believing it. No need for actual scientific studies, just make something up that sounds good and supports your agenda.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

Hope mods ban you due to it also being popular with children.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Ime
I don't own pets now living in the city. It just doesn't seem right to own a pet and keep it locked up in a small house.

I agree with you here as well...you can get them friends (I think any solo animal is missing out on a lot of it's life). Cats/Rabbits can use litterboxes, so can pigs if that's your thing. Dogs need to go out. Imagine not p!ssing at your desk all day with no break...you could probably do it, but it's not going to be fun.

I have had cats and dogs. I currently have 3 indoor cats all littermates.

They have a lot of fun here when we work, they have a whole toybox. Yes they do sometimes make noise at night playing and sometimes even jump up and shut off our fans somehow, but that's the way it goes.

Once I buy a house I will add a pair of pups to the mix...probably a shiba inu and corgi.

The real trick is to not treat your pet as a decoration, but as family.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: z42

Quite the shocker huh? Pet lovers are like some other special interest groups out there; they don't care if what they say is true, they just figure if they say it 1000 times everyone will start believing it. No need for actual scientific studies, just make something up that sounds good and supports your agenda.

The shocker is those that dispute these type of things never respond with more 'yeah, that's typical of their group'...e.g. stereotyping.

How about respond?

You'd be proven quite the asshat if you think any living thing doesn't do better with nurturing.

Also most animal lover's would agree with a lot of the same issues. Feral cats, roaming dogs, too many pets that the owner's were bored with, too much animal procreation, etc.

However, animals helped build our society...also they make great companions.

Å

 

[HomeAppraiser]

We have 3 cats, all inside.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: linkgoron
Cats are not dogs. You just can't keep them inside, and you can't use a leash with cats.

it's about conditioning...most spend terrible time on dogs, but then get a cat and just throw it in the house and expect it to know everything.

 

[mean6]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

So you stand there and let a cat piss on your shoes, and then you have the nerve to complain about it? Serves you right!

Why would i let a cat p**s on my shoes?
we have a shoe rack you retard. the cat comes around the back of our house and "marks its property" on them. I complain about it cuz the owner should have their cat on their own property. I think its a case of fair game if the neighbours killer dog came on my property, cuz they refused to keep it under tabs then yes it would be a goner too.

I didnt think my post was to offensive, ive blanked out the possible bad words.
I am aware that kids take aliking to it to, i have kids they arent stupid.... maybe your kids are.
Also to the douche whos friend committed suicide drinking the antifreeze: If he was committing suicide then he wanted to die!!! the way he chose to do it was up to him. If you are offended by my post then tuff luck.

 

[HomeAppraiser]

I run my business out of the house and my wife is a stay at home mom so the cats are rarely alone. If we are out for the day they always have this sleepy "Oh you were gone? Hadn't noticed" look when we get back.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mean6

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

So you stand there and let a cat piss on your shoes, and then you have the nerve to complain about it? Serves you right!

Why would i let a cat p**s on my shoes?
we have a shoe rack you retard. the cat comes around the back of our house and "marks its property" on them. I complain about it cuz the owner should have their cat on their own property. I think its a case of fair game if the neighbours killer dog came on my property, cuz they refused to keep it under tabs then yes it would be a goner too.

I didnt think my post was to offensive, ive blanked out the possible bad words.
I am aware that kids take aliking to it to, i have kids they arent stupid.... maybe your kids are.
Also to the douche whos friend committed suicide drinking the antifreeze: If he was committing suicide then he wanted to die!!! the way he chose to do it was up to him. If you are offended by my post then tuff luck.

There is such a thing as attractive nuisance. However; it's wasted on you, the pompous dreg of society. I could explain all the details of this, but why waste my time...I am sure you would just respond in some ignorant manner like you already have.

Also (I am sure your honor student bumper sticker is there), kids normally are not stupid...however; they are extremely curious if they are smart. Most of the world's elite did not do well as kids. I digress.

Your shoerack in the backyard proves this BTW! go out and profit! U B da nex Bill Gates!

As a higher level animal, we owe a bit of due diligence to the lessers.

This is just my opinion.

Å

 

[Vich]

Originally posted by: jagec
The funny thing about your flagrant generalizations is how far off you are. Few cat owners let them roam because...guess what...they get killed.

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I think the major problem is that while most dog owners feel a sense of responsibility and don't let their dog roam, cat owners, who are often emotional wrecks, think that it's their cat's right to roam the neighborhood.

:laugh:

And I thought the OP was removed from reality! You should work for the government!

Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts, however the post from which the material is quoted from is pure and utter stupidity.

 

[mean6]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: mean6

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: mean6
we too have a neighbour with a "roaming" cat.
Damn cat keeps piss_ng over our plants, cars, shoes. Ive seen it and have vowed to destroy it.
I left a huge pan (40litre low pan) full of anti-freeze/radiator coolant by "mistake" outside for the past few days, apparently this can kill animals that try and drink it. oops.
Hopefully the cat be gone

PS
Changed water pump in car, had to drain coolant.

So you stand there and let a cat piss on your shoes, and then you have the nerve to complain about it? Serves you right!

Why would i let a cat p**s on my shoes?
we have a shoe rack you retard. the cat comes around the back of our house and "marks its property" on them. I complain about it cuz the owner should have their cat on their own property. I think its a case of fair game if the neighbours killer dog came on my property, cuz they refused to keep it under tabs then yes it would be a goner too.

I didnt think my post was to offensive, ive blanked out the possible bad words.
I am aware that kids take aliking to it to, i have kids they arent stupid.... maybe your kids are.
Also to the douche whos friend committed suicide drinking the antifreeze: If he was committing suicide then he wanted to die!!! the way he chose to do it was up to him. If you are offended by my post then tuff luck.

There is such a thing as attractive nuisance. However; it's wasted on you, the pompous dreg of society. I could explain all the details of this, but why waste my time...I am sure you would just respond in some ignorant manner like you already have.

Also (I am sure your honor student bumper sticker is there), kids normally are not stupid...however; they are extremely curious if they are smart. Most of the world's elite did not do well as kids. I digress.

Your shoerack in the backyard proves this BTW! go out and profit! U B da nex Bill Gates!

As a higher level animal, we owe a bit of due diligence to the lessers.

This is just my opinion.

Å

I didnt say my shoperack was in the backyard fool, its on our back doorstep in an enclosed area. Not all children are bright .... but when I tell my boys dont drink the POISONOUS green water because its POISONOUS and its full of POISONOUS chemicals .... they dont drink it. Not too sure what your family members would do .. but hey not everyones einstein.

You sir are a douche, so go home and douche de douche de douche de douche you douche!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mean6
I didnt say my shoperack was in the backyard fool, its on our back doorstep in an enclosed area. Not all children are bright .... but when I tell my boys dont drink the POISONOUS green water because its POISONOUS and its full of POISONOUS chemicals .... they dont drink it. Not too sure what your family members would do .. but hey not everyones einstein.

You sir are a douche, so go home and douche de douche de douche de douche you douche!

see my post above about attractive nuisance. Also Einstein should be written as such not einstein...telling kids not to drink green water may preclude them from many drinks that are ok as well.

However; you have it all figured out.

Sorry I had you spinning around your trailer scaring your kids.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts

not in cat/animal posts.

 

[Vich]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Vich
Usually 91TTZ makes noteworthy posts

not in cat/animal posts.

Thats why i said usually!.

And the fool with usmc at the end of his username must be making up for his small genitals. Are you so much of a pussy that you need to shoot animals dead if they go on your porch? Big deal a ****** skunk or racoon. You must be a real redneck to sit around with shotguns waiting for some 'wild animal' to come onto your property.