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n0cmonkey

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think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

EDIT: For the people that actually read the entire first post, but might not understand my rambling: Just because I may not agree with your anti-Iraq statements and actions, DO NOT TELL ME TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

Thats it.
 

LH

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I can say the same thing.

Why do liberals call conservatives Nazi's, Facists, etc? Goes both ways.
 

Grey

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I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

For the same reasons that liberals think their way is the only way. It's funny - in general, conservatives want less government interaction.

I have seen just as many liberals as conservatives that insist that their way is the only way. For some reason, "close-mindedness" is associated with conservatism, but it actually applies to both ways of thinking.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: LH
I can say the same thing.

Why do liberals call conservatives Nazi's, Facists, etc? Goes both ways buddy.

I see neither of those words in my post. So what does this have to do with the topic of the thread? I was just questioning the idiocy of many conservatives in their very facist feelings towards differing opinions. There, I said it. Happy?

BTW, dont call me "buddy." And I am not a liberal.
 

NewSc2

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Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.

Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.
 
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I'll give you the same reply I gave Insane3D or some other liberal in my Hollywood thread:

I'm just saying to check your history books and pay attention to what happens in the coming weeks. And pay attention to the people, parties, organizations, coalitions, leaders and countries who backed it and who didn't- who are they allied with? Conservatives are much more credible and will continue to be so.

And not just this event, but events in the past and in the events yet to come. We're not the 'Right' for nothing. Yes, I am blatantly biased. So sue me.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.

They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: fuzzy bee
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

For the same reasons that liberals think their way is the only way. It's funny - in general, conservatives want less government interaction.

I have seen just as many liberals as conservatives that insist that their way is the only way. For some reason, "close-mindedness" is associated with conservatism, but it actually applies to both ways of thinking.

I agree, but I do not see many liberals or anti-war or anti-nuclear warhead wielding N. Korean activists telling pro-war people to get out of the country for their opinion.
 

LH

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I see neither of those words in my post. So what does this have to do with the topic of the thread? I was just questioning the idiocy of many conservatives in their very facist feelings towards differing opinions. There, I said it. Happy?

Never said you did I was just point out there are just as many liberals that call conservatives names, as there are vise versa.
 

Grey

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Both sides want to be right and both think they are. I personally have been steering clear of the debate, no need for the bad blood with co-workers on something we have little control over. Bush made his mind up a long time ago, the US is just going through the motions now.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.

Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.

Patriotism towards a government is not the same as patriotism towards a country. I love America, I hate the government.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: StattlichPassat
I'll give you the same reply I gave Insane3D or some other liberal in my Hollywood thread:

I'm just saying to check your history books and pay attention to what happens in the coming weeks. And pay attention to the people, parties, organizations, coalitions, leaders and countries who backed it and who didn't- who are they allied with? Conservatives are much more credible and will continue to be so.

And not just this event, but events in the past and in the events yet to come. We're not the 'Right' for nothing. Yes, I am blatantly biased. So sue me.

Oh, so that means I should get out of the country if I disagree with this war?
 

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Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.

Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.

It is important that you understand the difference between the government and the people it represents. If I feel a particular administration is acting against the best interest of the country as a whole, I would not be a good citizen if I left the issues unchallanged.
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: StattlichPassat
I'll give you the same reply I gave Insane3D or some other liberal in my Hollywood thread:

I'm just saying to check your history books and pay attention to what happens in the coming weeks. And pay attention to the people, parties, organizations, coalitions, leaders and countries who backed it and who didn't- who are they allied with? Conservatives are much more credible and will continue to be so.

And not just this event, but events in the past and in the events yet to come. We're not the 'Right' for nothing. Yes, I am blatantly biased. So sue me.

Oh, so that means I should get out of the country if I disagree with this war?

perhaps you shouldn't bash people that have differing views than your own for starters???
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: fuzzy bee
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

For the same reasons that liberals think their way is the only way. It's funny - in general, conservatives want less government interaction.

I have seen just as many liberals as conservatives that insist that their way is the only way. For some reason, "close-mindedness" is associated with conservatism, but it actually applies to both ways of thinking.


there is a difference between strongly believing in ones own opinion and being closed minded. in general liberals ARE more liberal with their lifestyles, ideas, thinking etc than conservatives. is this a generalization, YES, but there is some truth to it.

also, there is the close association between conservatives and the christian right. they tend to be a bit more closed minded.
 

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so now you're accusing just the conservative side of not thinking just because many of them agree with the status quo?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
so now you're accusing just the conservative side of not thinking just because many of them agree with the status quo?

Only the ones that believe that I should leave the country because I do not support this upcoming slaughter. Read.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: StattlichPassat
I'll give you the same reply I gave Insane3D or some other liberal in my Hollywood thread:

I'm just saying to check your history books and pay attention to what happens in the coming weeks. And pay attention to the people, parties, organizations, coalitions, leaders and countries who backed it and who didn't- who are they allied with? Conservatives are much more credible and will continue to be so.

And not just this event, but events in the past and in the events yet to come. We're not the 'Right' for nothing. Yes, I am blatantly biased. So sue me.

Oh, so that means I should get out of the country if I disagree with this war?

perhaps you shouldn't bash people that have differing views than your own for starters???

I only bashed the idiots that believe I should leave the country for not bending over to a corrupt government.
 

KK

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Why are there so many anti-republican viewpoint marches and not anti-democrat viewpoint marched? You wanna know why? Okay, I'll tell you. Democrats are people who believe in working together such as in a socialism way, they feed off of other people. Republicans are more independent and self- reliant, they are not follow the pack kind of people.

KK
 

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Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.

Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.

If you disagree with the actions of the government it's your patriotic duty to lobby and protest to make your voice heard. It's one of the most fundamental ideas that America was founded upon. "Move out if you don't like it" is exactly what the British said before some colonists groups came here. It's one of the most unpatriotic things you can say.
 

nutxo

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thank god for republicans, otherwise dems would still have slaves
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

noc...I think you may have opened a can of worms here...I will not flame or crap on your post, however I will answer your questions.
1. we don't think our way is the only way. I personally believe that each of us has our own opinion on every issue out there, however we elect our officials in a democratic election that is fair to all. And those people we elect make decisions that they feel will best serve our interests. So their decisions are our decisions.
2.Anyone who name calls because of your views is not a conservative, they are a far right winger...they dont represent the general consensus. There are more than a few democrats who do the same thing...so the sword is double edged.
3. Yes we are all Americans. We are all entitled to our own views, and the RIGHT to express them without any repercussions. However, we, as Americans, must also realize that there are times when we should unite and band together. Remember September 12, 2001? Wasnt it that day that all the members of congress, dems and reps, stood together and sung god bless america? Is this one of those times that we NEED to band together? I really think so. If we show any signs of seperation Saddam will find strength in that and exploit it. I dont want to have to worry about someone releasing a couple liters of VX next time I am at the mall...and I dont want my son to worry about that when he has kids either. We need to deal with the issue now. If Saddam wants to avoid war all he has to do is prove he disarmed, or start disarming now. In the words of GW, "If he really wanted to disarm, he could just show up at a parking lot and disarm!"
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ

there is a difference between strongly believing in ones own opinion and being closed minded. in general liberals ARE more liberal with their lifestyles, ideas, thinking etc than conservatives. is this a generalization, YES, but there is some truth to it.

also, there is the close association between conservatives and the christian right. they tend to be a bit more closed minded.

liberal lifestyle != open-mindedness.
liberal lifestyle = my lifestyle is right
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: KK
Why are there so many anti-republican viewpoint marches and not anti-democrat viewpoint marched? You wanna know why? Okay, I'll tell you. Democrats are people who believe in working together such as in a socialism way, they feed off of other people. Republicans are more independent and self- reliant, they are not follow the pack kind of people.

KK

Uhhh ok. So, democrats get together in a socialistic way to march politically? Isnt socialism an economic thing? I dont understand? So democrats band together, as a group, like a country, instead of every man for himself? Ok. I think Im getting it now. Only one more question. What does this have to do with the topic?
 
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