People like to think their right and bitch alot, regardless of the crews they roll with.
To the protesters:
Get out of the phuckin street!!!!!!!!
To the protesters:
Get out of the phuckin street!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so now you're accusing just the conservative side of not thinking just because many of them agree with the status quo?
Only the ones that believe that I should leave the country because I do not support this upcoming slaughter. Read.
calling people in agreement with the gov't blind isn't a good way to make friendsBy expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees.
saying that every conservative wants every leftist to get out isn't either (note: i say leftist because its more accurate since we live in a post-liberal world)I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about.
again, you claim that leftists have original opinions while conservatives are lemmings of some sortdont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own
Originally posted by: BD231
People like to think their right and bitch alot, regardless of the crews they roll with.
To the protesters:
Get out of the phuckin street!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
noc...
I think you may have opened a can of worms here...
I will not flame or crap on your post, however I will answer your questions.
1. we don't think our way is the only way. I personally believe that each of us has our own opinion on every issue out there, however we elect our officials in a democratic election that is fair to all. And those people we elect make decisions that they feel will best serve our interests. So their decisions are our decisions.
2.Anyone who name calls because of your views is not a conservative, they are a far right winger...they dont represent the general consensus. There are more than a few democrats who do the same thing...so the sword is double edged.
3. Yes we are all Americans. We are all entitled to our own views, and the RIGHT to express them without any repercussions. However, we, as Americans, must also realize that there are times when we should unite and band together. Remember September 12, 2001? Wasnt it that day that all the members of congress, dems and reps, stood together and sung god bless america? Is this one of those times that we NEED to band together? I really think so. If we show any signs of seperation Saddam will find strength in that and exploit it. I dont want to have to worry about someone releasing a couple liters of VX next time I am at the mall...and I dont want my son to worry about that when he has kids either. We need to deal with the issue now. If Saddam wants to avoid war all he has to do is prove he disarmed, or start disarming now. In the words of GW, "If he really wanted to disarm, he could just show up at a parking lot and disarm!"
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so now you're accusing just the conservative side of not thinking just because many of them agree with the status quo?
Only the ones that believe that I should leave the country because I do not support this upcoming slaughter. Read.
you didn't express that in your post when i read it
i present:
calling people in agreement with the gov't blind isn't a good way to make friendsBy expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees.
saying that every conservative wants every leftist to get out isn't either (note: i say leftist because its more accurate since we live in a post-liberal world)I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about.
again, you claim that leftists have original opinions while conservatives are lemmings of some sortdont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: KK
Why are there so many anti-republican viewpoint marches and not anti-democrat viewpoint marched? You wanna know why? Okay, I'll tell you. Democrats are people who believe in working together such as in a socialism way, they feed off of other people. Republicans are more independent and self- reliant, they are not follow the pack kind of people.
KK
Uhhh ok. So, democrats get together in a socialistic way to march politically? Isnt socialism an economic thing? I dont understand? So democrats band together, as a group, like a country, instead of every man for himself? Ok. I think Im getting it now. Only one more question. What does this have to do with the topic?
Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
Originally posted by: BD231
People like to think their right and bitch alot, regardless of the crews they roll with.
To the protesters:
Get out of the phuckin street!!!!!!!!
they can stay in the street....it will save money on speed bumps
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
So close to name calling on conservatives....but i guess you dont do that
Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
no way you or any democrat (assuming you are one), should leave. Debate leads to comprimise and in most cases that is good. But this is one time that I dont think we can show any signs of weakness....we gave Saddam 12 years to do what he needed to...and he stalled and lied his way up til this point. Are the being more cooperative now? Yes. You would too if you had 230,000 troops and 6 air craft carrier groups at your border. This is one time where we really need to kick ass and take names later. (sorry mods)
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
So close to name calling on conservatives....but i guess you dont do that
Name calling? How about truth telling? Conservatives are typically for war which a big part of is killing. If we are sending all of our forces to deal with someone else's problem in Iraq, we are leaving North Korea to its nuclear warheads. So supporting moving our troops to Iraq means you might not have a problem with N. Korea. Just a little idiotic reasoning. Im thinking about running for office.
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.
Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.
If you disagree with the actions of the government it's your patriotic duty to lobby and protest to make your voice heard. It's one of the most fundamental ideas that America was founded upon. "Move out if you don't like it" is exactly what the British said before some colonists groups came here. It's one of the most unpatriotic things you can say.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so now you're accusing just the conservative side of not thinking just because many of them agree with the status quo?
Only the ones that believe that I should leave the country because I do not support this upcoming slaughter. Read.
you didn't express that in your post when i read it
sigh.
i present:
calling people in agreement with the gov't blind isn't a good way to make friendsBy expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees.
Ok, I am not going to rework the English language for you. Is this because you are conservative, texan, or just an idiot? Blindly modifies following. I did not in any way shape or form say "following the government makes you blind." Reading if FUNdamental.
saying that every conservative wants every leftist to get out isn't either (note: i say leftist because its more accurate since we live in a post-liberal world)I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about.
Ok, my wording needs work there.
again, you claim that leftists have original opinions while conservatives are lemmings of some sortdont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own
Is this insecurity typical? You barely read what I say and interpret it in the worst possible manner. I will rephrase that for you too: dont mention it around people you know have opinions differing from your own
Happy?
Originally posted by: KK
Why are there so many anti-republican viewpoint marches and not anti-democrat viewpoint marched? You wanna know why? Okay, I'll tell you. Democrats are people who believe in working together such as in a socialism way, they feed off of other people. Republicans are more independent and self- reliant, they are not follow the pack kind of people.
KK
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.
Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.
If you disagree with the actions of the government it's your patriotic duty to lobby and protest to make your voice heard. It's one of the most fundamental ideas that America was founded upon. "Move out if you don't like it" is exactly what the British said before some colonists groups came here. It's one of the most unpatriotic things you can say.
I dont see it as unpatriotic. If someone is truely unhappy, they have the right the leave.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
So close to name calling on conservatives....but i guess you dont do that
Name calling? How about truth telling? Conservatives are typically for war which a big part of is killing. If we are sending all of our forces to deal with someone else's problem in Iraq, we are leaving North Korea to its nuclear warheads. So supporting moving our troops to Iraq means you might not have a problem with N. Korea. Just a little idiotic reasoning. Im thinking about running for office.
Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Grey
I agree the more major conservatives can be a bit strong in their wording. But in the end of your post you call for solidarity even if the unpopular choice plays out. I only see conservatives making the same statement, the protestors are doing everything they can to split the nation.
They seem to be trying to convince people of their opinion. Which is similar to what conservative/pro-killing/pro-north korean nuclear warhead people seem to try.
So close to name calling on conservatives....but i guess you dont do that
Name calling? How about truth telling? Conservatives are typically for war which a big part of is killing. If we are sending all of our forces to deal with someone else's problem in Iraq, we are leaving North Korea to its nuclear warheads. So supporting moving our troops to Iraq means you might not have a problem with N. Korea. Just a little idiotic reasoning. Im thinking about running for office.
North Korea is just looking for money....let them actually shoot down a spy plane and see what happens
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.
Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.
If you disagree with the actions of the government it's your patriotic duty to lobby and protest to make your voice heard. It's one of the most fundamental ideas that America was founded upon. "Move out if you don't like it" is exactly what the British said before some colonists groups came here. It's one of the most unpatriotic things you can say.
I dont see it as unpatriotic. If someone is truely unhappy, they have the right the leave.
Originally posted by: Fixxors
"Why do conservatives think that their way is the only way?"
Because conservative people have ideals based on ignorance and hatred, which they can only support by thinkin in black and white. Right or wrong. Conservatives don't want to think. They want to have someone tell em its evil, or a sin, so they use what little sytem resources their brains can power to watch Jerry Springer.
Matter of fact, they consider thinking "hypocracy". Abortion will always be a grey area for the liberal mind. So will the death penalty, gun control, the envonment, seperation of chuch and state and so on. A liberal will carry the burden of thinking, and rethinking, and reconsidering, even if the answer may never come. And liberals trust in each other, no matter how different. They don't fear other races, or cultures, or orientations, and thus they are open to peace instead of dominance. And the conservative walls that keep back our community will eventually be overcome. The liberal american dream of unity and equality may seem unattainable, but it's the struggle that is so important. Even now the conservatives today share many ideals of the liberals of yesterday. They are just a couple decades behind.
Conservatives are just people that have given up, and are stubbornly letting themselves be left behind because they are afraid of diversity and don't trust in mankind. They want "god" to set the rules. They want progress and change to be demonized and illegalized or censored. With our conservatives you are either for or against. Pro or con. That's why religion is such an important tool for them. But they are a dying breed and they realise it, and they are bitter. America will not let them forget the aftermath of our own hatred and ignorance. Racism has been proven immoral, as has sexism. America will not let it's gays or women or minoritys suffer anymore. Prohibition and censorship have only led to perversion and made our children victims.
They think their way is the only way, because they are not free to invest any real thought. In the end what is right will prevail. Sadly there are a lot of people being hurt in our country even today as we wait for conservatives to catch up.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
no way you or any democrat (assuming you are one), should leave. Debate leads to comprimise and in most cases that is good. But this is one time that I dont think we can show any signs of weakness....we gave Saddam 12 years to do what he needed to...and he stalled and lied his way up til this point. Are the being more cooperative now? Yes. You would too if you had 230,000 troops and 6 air craft carrier groups at your border. This is one time where we really need to kick ass and take names later. (sorry mods)
This sounds like the UN's problem, not ours. We should deal with N. Korea and other real threats.
Originally posted by: Fixxors
"Why do conservatives think that their way is the only way?"
Because conservative people have ideals based on ignorance and hatred, which they can only support by thinkin in black and white. Right or wrong. Conservatives don't want to think. They want to have someone tell em its evil, or a sin, so they use what little sytem resources their brains can power to watch Jerry Springer.
Matter of fact, they consider thinking "hypocracy". Abortion will always be a grey area for the liberal mind. So will the death penalty, gun control, the envonment, seperation of chuch and state and so on. A liberal will carry the burden of thinking, and rethinking, and reconsidering, even if the answer may never come. And liberals trust in each other, no matter how different. They don't fear other races, or cultures, or orientations, and thus they are open to peace instead of dominance. And the conservative walls that keep back our community will eventually be overcome. The liberal american dream of unity and equality may seem unattainable, but it's the struggle that is so important. Even now the conservatives today share many ideals of the liberals of yesterday. They are just a couple decades behind.
Conservatives are just people that have given up, and are stubbornly letting themselves be left behind because they are afraid of diversity and don't trust in mankind. They want "god" to set the rules. They want progress and change to be demonized and illegalized or censored. With our conservatives you are either for or against. Pro or con. That's why religion is such an important tool for them. But they are a dying breed and they realise it, and they are bitter. America will not let them forget the aftermath of our own hatred and ignorance. Racism has been proven immoral, as has sexism. America will not let it's gays or women or minoritys suffer anymore. Prohibition and censorship have only led to perversion and made our children victims.
They think their way is the only way, because they are not free to invest any real thought. In the end what is right will prevail. Sadly there are a lot of people being hurt in our country even today as we wait for conservatives to catch up.