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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Fixxors
"Why do conservatives think that their way is the only way?"

Because conservative people have ideals based on ignorance and hatred, which they can only support by thinkin in black and white. Right or wrong. Conservatives don't want to think. They want to have someone tell em its evil, or a sin, so they use what little sytem resources their brains can power to watch Jerry Springer.

Matter of fact, they consider thinking "hypocracy". Abortion will always be a grey area for the liberal mind. So will the death penalty, gun control, the envonment, seperation of chuch and state and so on. A liberal will carry the burden of thinking, and rethinking, and reconsidering, even if the answer may never come. And liberals trust in each other, no matter how different. They don't fear other races, or cultures, or orientations, and thus they are open to peace instead of dominance. And the conservative walls that keep back our community will eventually be overcome. The liberal american dream of unity and equality may seem unattainable, but it's the struggle that is so important. Even now the conservatives today share many ideals of the liberals of yesterday. They are just a couple decades behind.

Conservatives are just people that have given up, and are stubbornly letting themselves be left behind because they are afraid of diversity and don't trust in mankind. They want "god" to set the rules. They want progress and change to be demonized and illegalized or censored. With our conservatives you are either for or against. Pro or con. That's why religion is such an important tool for them. But they are a dying breed and they realise it, and they are bitter. America will not let them forget the aftermath of our own hatred and ignorance. Racism has been proven immoral, as has sexism. America will not let it's gays or women or minoritys suffer anymore. Prohibition and censorship have only led to perversion and made our children victims.

They think their way is the only way, because they are not free to invest any real thought. In the end what is right will prevail. Sadly there are a lot of people being hurt in our country even today as we wait for conservatives to catch up.


That's pretty ignorant thinking there. I am so pro-abortion, I think everyone should have one. j/k But I believe abortion should be the right of the person and government shouldn't get involve. Does that make me a liberal, hell no, it doesn't. And Jerry springer, I believe all the people on that show have to be liberal. Trailer-trash is usually democrats.

KK

I hope you are joking. I see more TT in my area that are conservatives than liberals.


Well, as I, and I only speak for myself since I'm what you would call a conservative , see it TT would have lower incomes than most of the general public. Therefore, democrats are always saying that republicans are for the upper class, why would TT be for the upper class?

KK

Dont know, havent asked.
 

rudeguy

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I shall post no more on this thread, becaus this subject gets me too worked up and I dont want to get mad...However n0c...dont back down from your views...even if you are dead wrong you opinion is what matters
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Fixxors
"Why do conservatives think that their way is the only way?"

Because conservative people have ideals based on ignorance and hatred, which they can only support by thinkin in black and white. Right or wrong. Conservatives don't want to think. They want to have someone tell em its evil, or a sin, so they use what little sytem resources their brains can power to watch Jerry Springer.

Matter of fact, they consider thinking "hypocracy". Abortion will always be a grey area for the liberal mind. So will the death penalty, gun control, the envonment, seperation of chuch and state and so on. A liberal will carry the burden of thinking, and rethinking, and reconsidering, even if the answer may never come. And liberals trust in each other, no matter how different. They don't fear other races, or cultures, or orientations, and thus they are open to peace instead of dominance. And the conservative walls that keep back our community will eventually be overcome. The liberal american dream of unity and equality may seem unattainable, but it's the struggle that is so important. Even now the conservatives today share many ideals of the liberals of yesterday. They are just a couple decades behind.

Conservatives are just people that have given up, and are stubbornly letting themselves be left behind because they are afraid of diversity and don't trust in mankind. They want "god" to set the rules. They want progress and change to be demonized and illegalized or censored. With our conservatives you are either for or against. Pro or con. That's why religion is such an important tool for them. But they are a dying breed and they realise it, and they are bitter. America will not let them forget the aftermath of our own hatred and ignorance. Racism has been proven immoral, as has sexism. America will not let it's gays or women or minoritys suffer anymore. Prohibition and censorship have only led to perversion and made our children victims.

They think their way is the only way, because they are not free to invest any real thought. In the end what is right will prevail. Sadly there are a lot of people being hurt in our country even today as we wait for conservatives to catch up.


That's pretty ignorant thinking there. I am so pro-abortion, I think everyone should have one. j/k But I believe abortion should be the right of the person and government shouldn't get involve. Does that make me a liberal, hell no, it doesn't. And Jerry springer, I believe all the people on that show have to be liberal. Trailer-trash is usually democrats.

KK

I hope you are joking. I see more TT in my area that are conservatives than liberals.


Well, as I, and I only speak for myself since I'm what you would call a conservative , see it TT would have lower incomes than most of the general public. Therefore, democrats are always saying that republicans are for the upper class, why would TT be for the upper class?

KK

Dont know, havent asked.

Maybe because they dont want to stay TT.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: charrison
No, the best solution is always best. Sometimes it is better just to have a fresh start.
Complaining about the goverment is pretty easy.
Packing up and moving to a different country in disgust is far more difficult.

And reform yet harder, but it helps more people in the long run. This doesnt just apply to this issue, but to many issues in the government right now. Especially the "conservative views" I hold.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
I shall post no more on this thread, becaus this subject gets me too worked up and I dont want to get mad...However n0c...dont back down from your views...even if you are dead wrong you opinion is what matters

Thanks. Thats all this thread was about.

I think Im done raising blood pressure. Until my next pro-America thread anyhow.
 

Bleep

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The problem is that there are a lot of people between the age of 18 to 25 that rant on about liberals being trators but they will not go down to the recruting office and offer to do their part. I get so tired of the "liberals (meaning Democrats) are trators because they dont agree with the Bush administration. I am not ashamed to admit that Iam a liberal, but I will guarntee you that I have done more than my part in the military and even after the military did even more. I have risked my life for my country and then here I am called a trator.
What the heck kind of thinking is that? Are you Consertives so blind and a bigot that you would call me a trator? If even 1 liberal is in the military now and ready to go to war with iraq you call him a trator because he/she is a liberal.
This is why I have complete contempt for those that call themself American and Consertives at the same time, and profess to be so next to God that they can not only do no wrong but cannot think wrong.

I am a Liberal so I must be a trator.

Bleep
 

Fixxors

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What really wierd is thoguh I consider myself a literal liberal,

I often torture myself at work and listen to rush limbaugh, rusty humphries, and bill oreilly almost every day. Then i go home and listen to the 700 club low enough so it doesnt aggrivate my wife. dunno why i find these monkeys so fascinating.
 

Bleep

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fixxors:

Dont you find it a little annoying that they are all parroting each other?

I am a Liberal so I must be a trator.
Bleep
 

Fixxors

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Originally posted by: Bleep
fixxors:

Dont you find it a little annoying that they are all parroting each other?

I am a Liberal so I must be a trator.
Bleep


hehe yeah. I can almost tell you word for word what they will say before they say it. I don't even think they really believe what they are saying. I here them say so many ridiculous things I really belive they are just keeping their ratings up. They know no one needs to here liberal perspetives because they are common sense and there no confrontation. So they get up there and spit out a glorious ricky lake show for the mind! And im hooked. I sewar it must be a scripted as the profesional wrestling particularly bill oreilly. he cant really be that ignorant, its totaly fake IMHO
 

heartsurgeon

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democracy is messy - that is its genius.

the debate between conservative and liberal is important and
makes the republic more stable. the balance of opinions is what keeps the country
from veering to far left or right.

conservatives need liberals
liberals need conservatives

the dialog should be civil however
both sides could improve on that
the liberals tend to label conservatives as "stupid" or "heartless"
conservatives tend to lable liberals as "godless" or "elitist""
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Fixxors
Originally posted by: Bleep
fixxors:

Dont you find it a little annoying that they are all parroting each other?

I am a Liberal so I must be a trator.
Bleep


hehe yeah. I can almost tell you word for word what they will say before they say it. I don't even think they really believe what they are saying. I here them say so many ridiculous things I really belive they are just keeping their ratings up. They know no one needs to here liberal perspetives because they are common sense and there no confrontation. So they get up there and spit out a glorious ricky lake show for the mind! And im hooked. I sewar it must be a scripted as the profesional wrestling particularly bill oreilly. he cant really be that ignorant, its totaly fake IMHO

"lilberal' perspectives are common sense and there no confrontation"? so you're saying that theres never been a rift between leftists?
 

0roo0roo

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why do conservatives listen to whores like rush its like listening to howard stern for your political opinion. rather sad. peeps that have never heard of fallacy or intellectual honesty.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
why do conservatives listen to whores like rush its like listening to howard stern for your political opinion. rather sad. peeps that have never heard of fallacy or intellectual honesty.

rush is funny, even if hes lying through his teeth
 

IGBT

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Marxist org's are behind the "protests". And the morons following them are the usuall rent a mob serial protesters that fall for this marxist crap time and time again.
............................FREE IRAQ!!................................
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

EDIT: For the people that actually read the entire first post, but might not understand my rambling: Just because I may not agree with your anti-Iraq statements and actions, DO NOT TELL ME TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

Thats it.
Polarization of American Citzenry benefits the Republican Party as it's still the Minority party as far of voter registration is concerned and if it can convince the Moderates that the Democrats are all Socialist Liberals the Moderates will bite the bullets and vote for the less repugnant of the two Partys. Like voting for the dead Skunk instead of the live Skunk
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: NewSc2
Not everybody thinks liberals are unpatriotic, except when liberals complain about the government, like I see daily, I'd imagine that that is somewhat unpatriotic.

Protestors at my school consistently call the United States an axis of evil, corrupt, uncivilized, stupid, the big Satan, etc. How is that Patriotic? Move out if you don't like it.

People are you are why we had to leave Europe and start America in the first place. If you don't like it, why don't you go back to where you came from?
 

Fixxors

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Polarization of American Citzenry benefits the Republican Party as it's still the Minority party as far of voter registration is concerned and if it can convince the Moderates that the Democrats are all Socialist Liberals the Moderates will bite the bullets and vote for the less repugnant of the two Partys. Like voting for the dead Skunk instead of the live Skunk

/agree

oh and to whoever made the "marxist" comment exactly predicted the entire dialogue of next weeks rush limbaugh show. Just say that same thing over and over, back and forth wording it slightly defferent each time, rinse and repeat for a couple hours and SHAZZAM!!! you can be the next rush! grats

(be sure to throw in a little constempt for a minority group, like lesbians, and sneak in a bit o religious feces.)
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: LH
I can say the same thing.

Why do liberals call conservatives Nazi's, Facists, etc? Goes both ways buddy.

I see neither of those words in my post. So what does this have to do with the topic of the thread? I was just questioning the idiocy of many conservatives in their very facist feelings towards differing opinions. There, I said it. Happy?

BTW, dont call me "buddy." And I am not a liberal.

Well you see buddy, Republocrates like to blame everything on Demublicans, and visa versa. It really does work both ways (I'm not commenting on your personal beliefs here just making a statement).

This has been going on for so long that, when we get a big conflict like this, one side starts telling the other to "get out of the country" or that they are "nazi's" without any kind of comprehension of where the other side is coming from.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Fixxors
Polarization of American Citzenry benefits the Republican Party as it's still the Minority party as far of voter registration is concerned and if it can convince the Moderates that the Democrats are all Socialist Liberals the Moderates will bite the bullets and vote for the less repugnant of the two Partys. Like voting for the dead Skunk instead of the live Skunk

/agree

oh and to whoever made the "marxist" comment exactly predicted the entire dialogue of next weeks rush limbaugh show. Just say that same thing over and over, back and forth wording it slightly defferent each time, rinse and repeat for a couple hours and SHAZZAM!!! you can be the next rush! grats

(be sure to throw in a little constempt for a minority group, like lesbians, and sneak in a bit o religious feces.)
Screw Limbaugh that hypocritical boil on his ass draft dodging Hot Bag of Noxious Gas*

*"Hot Bag of Noxious Gas" courtesy of Dave Letterman

 

pennylane

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it's been my experience that both liberals and conservatives can criticize each other quite a bit. and to add more... most of the pro-war conservatives i know have researched beforehand. however, most of the anti-war people i know have not.
i'm not implying anything. this is just my experience.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

EDIT: For the people that actually read the entire first post, but might not understand my rambling: Just because I may not agree with your anti-Iraq statements and actions, DO NOT TELL ME TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

Thats it.

Why do liberals think conservatives are so bad, while they are so rightious? I will tell you to leave this country because you talk about everyone being on the same side, yet you are dividing us by talking about how bad conservatives are and liberals are more patriotic. YOU SUCK because you think you are so much better than everyone else.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
think that their way is the only way? Some people do not agree with the government. Its not new. You dont on occassion. Does that mean we are less "patriotic?" No. By expressing our opinions on the government's decisions and by protesting in the streets it means we are just as, if not more, patriotic than everyone blindly following the government's decrees. This is not a country built on conformatism. If it was we would be drinking tea and eating god awful buscuits every day talking about some old broad as "her majesty."

Do your duty and think. I dont want to tell you that if you cant think for yourself that you should get out, like you do about the "communist, hippy, liberal, traitorous, trash" you all like to rant and rave about. Because I think you have the right to your opinion, and you should respect that right for others, even if you cannot understand their reasoning. If you do not want to listen to the reasoning of others (and I mean really listen), then dont ask, dont mention it around people you know have opinions of their own and who will let you know that they disagree.

In other words, we Americans are all on the same side, even if we cant agree what is best. If you cant be civil or intelligent once in a while, please dont post in this thread.

EDIT: For the people that actually read the entire first post, but might not understand my rambling: Just because I may not agree with your anti-Iraq statements and actions, DO NOT TELL ME TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

Thats it.

Why do liberals think conservatives are so bad, while they are so rightious? I will tell you to leave this country because you talk about everyone being on the same side, yet you are dividing us by talking about how bad conservatives are and liberals are more patriotic. YOU SUCK because you think you are so much better than everyone else.
No, they just think they are better than you.
 

stspad

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cause america breeds fear ? its all over the news, radio and workplaces. people get sort of "brain-washed" and associate anyone that disagrees with what they are conditioned to believe with what they are afraid of. It goes for all parites.
 
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