Why do I want an iPad?

JE78

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I had an iPhone but made the switch to Android mostly because of AT&T's network in my area being horrible. I had no complaints about Apple or my iPhone, now I have a chance to get a 16gb WiFi iPad from a friend for under $400 and its brand new but I'm not sure I need or want one. I'm not a e-reader, I like my games though and like the idea of having a tablet but I'm just wondering if its more than just a big iPod which is how i've seen it since launch. Now i'll say i've never used one other than looking a few things up on safari so i'm not sure the real usefulness of it. So I'm looking for advice on the device, any and all would be appreciated, thanks.
 

Gooberlx2

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Love mine. It definitely is just a toy, but a pretty awesome one at that. IMO, it's perfect for casual couch surfing, wiki lookup, news and weather reading, etc.. Some specialized apps definitely do add a lot to the functionality and/or present data in better format or layout than the website. The Xfinity and Sonos Controller apps are great. Also Flipboard, Netflix, Epicurious, etc...

From a "media consumption" standpoint, I think it really is well suited in between a smartphone and laptop. Instant on, great battery life, high quality large touchscreen, etc..

I guess I didn't realize how useful it could be until we got one as a gift and started actually using it.
 
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Kaido

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Initially I was very excited about the iPad, when the rumors came out. Then it came out and I couldn't figure out a real reason to get one. I had a similar opportunity and got mine used from a friend recently, for three reasons:

1. My wife is pregnant and likes games, so being able to lay in bed or sit on the couch to play games, use Facebook, etc. is nice when she isn't feeling good.

2. There are a lot of great apps available for my filming hobby (smart slate, script reader, teleprompter, storyboarding, AC-7 soundtrack mixing controls for Logic/Soundtrack Pro/Pro Tools, Tangent color grading interface, previously-shot sequence reviews, movie player, etc.). Very handy device for a variety of reasons.

3. For school - scan in the textbook in the beginning of the semester and then scan in my notes every night = iPad + paper notebook for school instead of a huge backpack. Thanks to Evernote and iBooks, I have access to all of my documents and books digitally. A couple manufacturers make double-sided scanners for under $500 that are pretty great for digitizing paperwork and books.

It makes a terrible laptop replacement because I am a power user. I require a keyboard to get anything done - the software keyboard is slow and the hardware keyboard requires a flat surface. Ideally I'd like to also get a 13" Macbook Air at some point - that's really the ultimate mobile "true" Internet/productivity machine. A mouse & keyboard make me infinitely faster for actually getting stuff done, whereas I view the iPad as a tool and an entertainment device - it has fun games for my wife and a lot of applications as a very useful film tool and college school tool for me.

I'll probably sell it shortly because I really want one with a camera in it
 

Kaido

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Love mine. It definitely is just a toy, but a pretty awesome one at that. IMO, it's perfect for casual couch surfing, wiki lookup, news and weather reading, etc.. Some specialized apps definitely do add a lot to the functionality and/or present data in better format or layout than the website. The Xfinity and Sonos Controller apps are great. Also Flipboard, Netflix, Epicurious, etc...

From a "media consumption" standpoint, I think it really is well suited in between a smartphone and laptop. Instant on, great battery life, high quality large touchscreen, etc..

I guess I didn't realize how useful it could be until we got one as a gift and started actually using it.

That's really it - it's a very neat toy, and is more useful than you think it will be. imo it fits in the couch niche - desktop computer for your table, laptop for your backpack, iPhone for your pocket, iPad for your couch. It's a kitchen-counter kind of device - leave it on the dinner table or the couch and look stuff up. I used to have magazines and gameboys and stuff lying around, but now it's just the iPad.
 

JE78

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Thanks guys. I don't really think I'd use it as much as I think I would so I'll probably pass on this one and maybe wait until the next one comes up in 2011, maybe it will have a few more bells and whistles that I'll find useful. I was hoping to hear that it would be more of a laptop replacement than it is but i'm like Kaido and require a keyboard as i'm more of a power user as well. Thanks for all the input guys!
 

Ka0t1x

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You can always carry a bluetooth keyboard around with you (Apple tenkeyless or other small brand), to use while standing the iPad up on a minimalist stand (business card holder)..

I probably would never buy one but work has given me one to use and I'd probably spend my own money on one now
 

Kaido

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What do you use to scan your books?

Depends on your budget:

$260 - Fuji S1300 (small tray - also portable)

$368 - Epson GT-S50 (large tray)

Procedure is simple: (duplex scanners - they scan both sides)

1. Use a scalpel (a few dollars on Amazon) to slice off the book covers, then to slice off the spine.

2. Use a cheap paper cutter ($20 for a plastic one from Staples) to make the edges of the pages nice and straight after hitting them with the scalpel.

3. Scan to a PDF and do OCR so it's searchable.
 

Pliablemoose

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I use my iPad daily, but not the way most do, I use it almost exclusively as a Netflix device & a GPS...

I also have & use a lot of other gadgets, but I love the iPad, it's like a Swiss Army knife.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Depends on your budget:

$260 - Fuji S1300 (small tray - also portable)

$368 - Epson GT-S50 (large tray)

Procedure is simple: (duplex scanners - they scan both sides)

1. Use a scalpel (a few dollars on Amazon) to slice off the book covers, then to slice off the spine.

2. Use a cheap paper cutter ($20 for a plastic one from Staples) to make the edges of the pages nice and straight after hitting them with the scalpel.

3. Scan to a PDF and do OCR so it's searchable.

So basically destroy the book so you can't resell it?
 

Kaido

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So basically destroy the book so you can't resell it?

That is correct.

It's one of the tradeoffs of scanning using this method. The alternative is to use a book scanner. The service is expensive, but preserves the book. You could also build your own book scanner, but that takes time, money, work, and space for a larger machine. I didn't want to make a hobby out of it, and I didn't want to pay a lot of money to get them scanned for me when I could purchase a one-off scanner and do it myself. Pricing for services is pretty expensive:

http://www.blueleaf-book-scanning.com/book_scanning_service_order.html

To me, the value of a book is its contents (most books, anyway - other than vintage stuff or coffee table books, for example). Having the book instantly accessible and searchable when I need it is worth far more than a paltry resell price. Not to mention the reduced strain on my back. It's a matter of economics as well - lately my book bills at school have been over $500 a semester for used books. I can resell to the school at the end of the semester for $20 each, or if I'm lucky maybe $50 to another study. Or for $3 on Amazon used books. Not a significant return on investment. However, since I'm paying hundreds of dollars per class, which is a significant investment for me, I'd rather have the book in a format that is easy to access, always with me, searchable, and not heavy in my backpack.

The workflow is pretty simple. Buy your books in the beginning of the semester and spend half a day scanning them. Every night when you get home, spend 5 minutes scanning your notes and transferring them to the iPad. All you need in class is an iPad, a notebook/pen, and perhaps a calculator or whatever class-specific tools you need. You'll never lose a document again, and even if your iPad is lost/broken, you have all your files backed up on your computer. It lets you be more organized because you don't have to hunt for papers - just look through your searchable, dated documents on your iPad.

It depends on what your goals are. If reselling is important to you, don't cut the books up. If your goal is to get through class without breaking your back and you want the convenience of digital books that aren't otherwise available digitally, this is a nice option, and it helps you stay organized.
 
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Imp

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iPad have a GPS? that is nice to view large GPS screen!

I almost got an iPad over a laptop because I liked the idea of a 10" GPS (GPS chip only exists on the 3G version, and provides assisted-GPS with cell towers).

Surfing on the couch would have been awesome too, but I got my 14" laptop for $600 with case; an iPad would have set me back $500 +tax already, and the OEM case is officially $40.

The iPad is an awesome entertainment device for pictures, internet and GPS. Never been a fan of gimped games.

I'll probably be getting a Playbook when it comes out. Seems a lot more useful, especially since it's a business oriented device. The iPad 2 should be out by March though.
 

Oric

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with the air video application, it beats all devices in the house for watching video on a home server on a remote locationj like the bed or the couch ...
 

KeypoX

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I almost got an iPad over a laptop because I liked the idea of a 10" GPS (GPS chip only exists on the 3G version, and provides assisted-GPS with cell towers).

Surfing on the couch would have been awesome too, but I got my 14" laptop for $600 with case; an iPad would have set me back $500 +tax already, and the OEM case is officially $40.

The iPad is an awesome entertainment device for pictures, internet and GPS. Never been a fan of gimped games.

I'll probably be getting a Playbook when it comes out. Seems a lot more useful, especially since it's a business oriented device. The iPad 2 should be out by March though.

you sure about that? Apple clearly states 3G models have GPS. Assisted GPS isnt gps.

"iPad with Wi-Fi finds your location using known Wi-Fi hotspots, and Wi-Fi + 3G models use Wi-Fi, GPS, and cellular towers. So you can get routes, get directions, and get there in no time."

But Apple lies, the iPad doesnt have any GPS chip, and doesnt not use any global positioning satellites.
 
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ChAoTiCpInOy

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you sure about that? Apple clearly states 3G models have GPS. Assisted GPS isnt gps.

"iPad with Wi-Fi finds your location using known Wi-Fi hotspots, and Wi-Fi + 3G models use Wi-Fi, GPS, and cellular towers. So you can get routes, get directions, and get there in no time."

But Apple lies, the iPad doesnt have any GPS chip, and doesnt not use any global positioning satellites.

Common misconception. A-GPS is a way that uses the cellular towers as the first triangulation. From that they can get their GPS location quicker because it has a point of reference. So yes, A-GPS is GPS.
 

RichieZ

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at this point I would wait for iPad v2.

I just sold my 16gb wifi iPad for $435, ready for version 2.0 now. got to love the strong resale value
 

Emulex

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ipad 3g has true gps without service. works better than any other ios product. very strong lock.
 

speg

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Best consumption device ever! I hate sitting down at my computer to surf the web when I can stay on the couch and grab my iPad.

Coupled with apps like Flipboard, and it's damn sweet.

Also, don't listen to keypoX.
 
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