Why do liberals believe in global warming but not conservatives?

[Grooveriding]

Just one question Paratus. Who knows more about climate science, yourself or Dr. Judith Curry?

derp

 

[Paratus]

Just one question Paratus. Who knows more about climate science, yourself or Dr. Judith Curry?

Are you going to answer mine?

At any rate I was going to say she quantitatively knows more about the climate than I do but I changed my mind.

From 2014:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09...ent-cool-phase-will-continue-until-the-2030s/

Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry warns of decades of possible global cooling: Suggests the ‘current cool phase will continue until the 2030s’

Have you been enjoying global cooling these last couple of years.

 

[agent00f]

Are you going to answer mine?

At any rate I was going to say she quantitatively knows more about the climate than I do but I changed my mind.

From 2014:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09...ent-cool-phase-will-continue-until-the-2030s/


Have you been enjoying global cooling these last couple of years.

As linked above she used to know more about the climate, before it became inconvenient for her new role.

 

[Grooveriding]

You can stop cupping Trump's nuts and embarrassing yourself, he's lied/flip flopped/forgotten/Alzheimer's episode whatever it is. Well sort of, it's a 'some, something'

http://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-new-york-times-2016-11

Can't make this stuff up. Trump is a nut!

 

[buckshot24]

Are you going to answer mine?

At any rate I was going to say she quantitatively knows more about the climate than I do but I changed my mind.

From 2014:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09...ent-cool-phase-will-continue-until-the-2030s/


Have you been enjoying global cooling these last couple of years.

That is pretty pathetic.

 

[agent00f]

You can stop cupping Trump's nuts and embarrassing yourself, he's lied/flip flopped/forgotten/Alzheimer's episode whatever it is. Well sort of, it's a 'some, something'

http://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-new-york-times-2016-11

Can't make this stuff up. Trump is a nut!

I'm sure he'll come back to reassure the base that was just to fool the dummies.

 

[Paratus]

That is pretty pathetic.

It is pretty pathetic to use your knowledge to mislead those who don't have the knowledge especially when the evidence your doing it is all around.

 

[Paratus]

You can stop cupping Trump's nuts and embarrassing yourself, he's lied/flip flopped/forgotten/Alzheimer's episode whatever it is. Well sort of, it's a 'some, something'

http://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-new-york-times-2016-11

Can't make this stuff up. Trump is a nut!

Well damn!

 

[buckshot24]

It is pretty pathetic to use your knowledge to mislead those who don't have the knowledge especially when the evidence your doing it is all around.

Making wrong predictions doesn't mean a person who made correct predictions KNOWS MORE about the subject. She still knows more about the climate than you do.

 

[agent00f]

Making wrong predictions doesn't mean a person who made correct predictions KNOWS MORE about the subject. She still knows more about the climate than you do.

Seems pretty obvious she shares your integrity.

 

[Paratus]

Making wrong predictions doesn't mean a person who made correct predictions KNOWS MORE about the subject. She still knows more about the climate than you do.

If you use your knowledge to mislead people what does it matter if they know more than you?

 

[buckshot24]

If you use your knowledge to mislead people what does it matter if they know more than you?

She could have just been wrong?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Here it is, i'm basically a lukewarmer along the lines of Pielke Jr.
https://www.amazon.com/Lukewarming-...p/B01LWAR9B1/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=

Read up and actually learn something for a change.

Also in your link
"Curry on CO2 control knob: 'Even on the timescale of decade or two, we could end up be very surprised on how the climate plays out and it might not be getting warmer like the UN IPCC says. We don’t know what's going to happen. All other things being equal – yes -- more carbon dioxide means warmer, but all other things are never equal. We just don’t know. I think we are fooling ourselves to think that CO2 control knob really influences climate on these decadal or even century time scales.' "

"We just don’t know. "

 

[agent00f]

Here it is, i'm basically a lukewarmer along the lines of Pielke Jr.
https://www.amazon.com/Lukewarming-...p/B01LWAR9B1/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=

Read up and actually learn something for a change.

Gee I wonder what kind of opinions the Cato Institute pay for.

Speaking of which, not sure I'd brag about paying for PR copy if I were you.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Gee I wonder what kind of opinions the Cato Institute pay for.

Not nearly as much as the Green organizations such as Union of Concerned Scientists, WWF, NWF, UNFCCC , NASA and the hundreds of billions spent for politics.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Are you going to answer mine?

At any rate I was going to say she quantitatively knows more about the climate than I do but I changed my mind.

From 2014:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09...ent-cool-phase-will-continue-until-the-2030s/


Have you been enjoying global cooling these last couple of years.

The hubris that a little pathetic cut and paste guy like yourself even entertains the notion that you have professional and professorial class knowledge is cute.

 

[agent00f]

Not nearly as much as the Green organizations such as Union of Concerned Scientists, WWF, NWF, UNFCCC , NASA and the hundreds of billions spent for politics.

Pretending to have some sort of science degree when you clearly can't tell the difference between research and CATO only damages your own credibility.

The hubris that a little pathetic cut and paste guy like yourself even entertains the notion that you have professional and professorial class knowledge is cute.

Similarly when you can't even recognize how people who've been through the academy talk.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I was outlining my belief in regards to Climate Change, it's laid out pretty well in a book published by CATO. I'm what's know as a lukewarmer in climate circles. You're an idiot. Read and try to learn.

 

[agent00f]

I was outlining my belief in regards to Climate Change, it's laid out pretty well in a book published by CATO. I'm what's know as a lukewarmer in climate circles. You're an idiot. Read and try to learn.

I'd say that description above of confirmation bias outlines your belief rather perfectly. Don't make things worse by calling the people who actually know something about science idiots.

 

[Sunburn74]

Here it is, i'm basically a lukewarmer along the lines of Pielke Jr.
https://www.amazon.com/Lukewarming-...p/B01LWAR9B1/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=
"

Peer reviewed or go home.

A lot of absolute drivel finds its way into books. There are books out there by self professed experts on the health benefits of pouring coffee into one's own ass rather than drinking it. That shit ain't flying in Nature and the NEJM.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Peer reviewed or go home.

A lot of absolute drivel finds its way into books. There are books out there by self professed experts on the health benefits of pouring coffee into one's own ass rather than drinking it. That shit ain't flying in Nature and the NEJM.

Dr. Curry has published over 130 peer reviewed papers. How many has Paratus or yourself for that matter published?

 

[Brainonska511]

Dr. Curry has published over 130 peer reviewed papers. How many has Paratus or yourself for that matter published?

It's not about quantity that individuals have published or the work that one person has done. You can't just cherry pick the studies that support your point of view.

You need to look at the field and see what the consensus (read: what disparate people are finding with multiple methods) of the field is. By and large, the consensus among the people actually doing the research is human activity is the primary driver of climate change.

 

[Paratus]

The hubris that a little pathetic cut and paste guy like yourself even entertains the notion that you have professional and professorial class knowledge is cute.

There's the ad hominem!
Thanks for the interest in my background I've posted it before so it's not hard to find.

But dude I'm sorry if I cut you a little close. You seem a bit bothered. I can understand you have some cognitive dissonance going on. As geologist you know some science but as a conservative (or are you also an oil and gas guy? Hmm) you are ignoring it and hey maybe your salary depends on that.


So as a lukewarmer what evidence makes you think warming is going to be slow and beneficial? It certainly hasn't been slow the past 50 years. Besides:

Low lying islands and shores are suffering increased tidal flooding.

Inuit villages are collapsing from melting permafrost.

The pentagon views warming as a threat multiplier

Insurance companies are building it into their risk assessments

The IPCC and the 195 governments who signed the Paris accords disagree with you.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The present United States government agrees with me. I prefer that to the the UN with their hands out demanding trillions of dollars from the US.

 

[Paratus]

The present United States government agrees with me. I prefer that to the the UN with their hands out demanding trillions of dollars from the US.

The present govt is a signor of the Paris Accords.

If you mean the next government we'll the president elect has recently been equivocating on his earlier climate stance.