Why do liberals hate America?

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Bubba the Love Sponge

Originally posted by: zendari

Liberals have no problems trading away my pursuit of Happiness for their socialist programs.

Did they block your access to gay porn so impovershed children could get medical care?

No, they took my money to do it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: zendari
What are "Basic human rights"?

Personally I am with Tommy on this one:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Conservatives fully believe in the above.

Liberals have no problems trading away my pursuit of Happiness for their socialist programs.

Conservatives have no problems with their version of the pursuit of Happiness, pursuit of the dollar at the expense of Life & Liberty.

Fixed for you

Which conservatives pursue happiness at the expense of their life and liberty?

Their life and liberty? None. At the expense of my life and liberty and freedoms? rove, dumbya, dead-eye, coulter, limbaugh, hannity, dumbsfeld, rice, etc...

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ahhh hahahaha, it's so nice to see the neo-cons goosestep in time with each other. As a liberal, a tree-hugging liberal, I am for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without governmental interference into my private life. I also believe in caring for those less fortunate, which falls under the whole pursuit of happiness, and maybe under life, and before you break out your pro-life off tune drum, relax, i am not pro-abortion, I just feel that an individuals right to choose is just that, their right, and no matter how many times you shove your god into the discussion, it's still their right, and they may not even believe in your god, which is also their right, under the whole freedom of expression and religion thingy.
So go on, flame me, I really don't care, you're at best a one trick pony that has his show closing very soon.
Enjoy firebombing the planned parenthood clinics, you're so pro-life.

Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate, or to keep my finances within my private life without governmental interference.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: zendari
Which conservatives pursue happiness at the expense of their life and liberty?

Their life and liberty? None. At the expense of my life and liberty and freedoms? rove, dumbya, dead-eye, coulter, limbaugh, hannity, dumbsfeld, rice, etc...

You seem to still be alive. Not sure why hannity should have to give up his pursuit of happiness because you seem to think he is impeding yours.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: zendari
Which conservatives pursue happiness at the expense of their life and liberty?

Their life and liberty? None. At the expense of my life and liberty and freedoms? rove, dumbya, dead-eye, coulter, limbaugh, hannity, dumbsfeld, rice, etc...

You seem to still be alive.

Keep looking in the mailbox for that letter from MENSA, it'll be there any day now. Yes, but the fact that I could be swept off for no just cause or have my phones tapped without a court order or my internet activity monitored without a court order is a violation of my liberty, so, granted I am still alive, my lack of liberty has only occurred under dumbya's watch.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: K1052
That reply is as stupid as what it is meant to respond to.

Conservatives:"You Liberals hate America"
Liberals: "No, you Conservatives hate America more."
Conservatives: "No, you Liberals hate America the most"
Liberals: *insert name calling or random political insult relating to Nazi Germany*
Conservatives: *insert more namecalling and throw down the Communist card*
(this usually goes on for a several dozen posts or until everyone loses interest)

Depends on the motivation behind it. If it's a "No we aren't, it's you!", then I agree with you, but if it's a "O'Rly!" and uses someone elses "logic" against them, then I disagree with you.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: K1052
That reply is as stupid as what it is meant to respond to.

Conservatives:"You Liberals hate America"
Liberals: "No, you Conservatives hate America more."
Conservatives: "No, you Liberals hate America the most"
Liberals: *insert name calling or random political insult relating to Nazi Germany*
Conservatives: *insert more namecalling and throw down the Communist card*
(this usually goes on for a several dozen posts or until everyone loses interest)

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1858

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
On another forum that I sometimes frequent (a rabid right-wing place not unlike Freeperville), I saw this reply to a YALHA (Yet Another Liberals Hate America) post and thought that it was a pretty good comeback to the "Liberals hate America" and the just-as-frequently-used "Liberalism is akin to terrorism" mularky:

It's still a pretty lame rhetorical device. Comparing "liberals" to "the terrorists" is pretty stoopid. It just another aspect of accusing them of being "anti-American."

Liberals don't believe in using violence to push their agenda, conservatives -- and terrorists -- do.

Liberals don't believe that their religion is more important than other people's. Conservatives -- and Islamic terrorists -- do.

Liberals believe that justice is justice and everyone deserves certain basic human rights. Conservatives -- and terrorists -- think that some people are not human enough to be treated with dignity.

Liberals believe in the rule of law. Neo-conservatives -- and terrorists -- believe that ideology can place you above the law.

I'd like to hear from the resident "Liberals are evil" crowd about whether or not they think that these are as accurate of stereotypes of conservatives as the ones that they continue to spew about liberals.

lol,

- who do you think gets violent during WTO meetings? Who do you think vandalizes property as part of animal rights and environmental campaigns? These folks tend liberal, not conservative.

- Everyone is in the same bucket on the religion issue.

- except for unborn children. But they're not human, right?

- Liberals believe in interpreting law to fit them best. See Fed 9th Circuit Court as an example.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
On another forum that I sometimes frequent (a rabid right-wing place not unlike Freeperville), I saw this reply to a YALHA (Yet Another Liberals Hate America) post and thought that it was a pretty good comeback to the "Liberals hate America" and the just-as-frequently-used "Liberalism is akin to terrorism" mularky:

It's still a pretty lame rhetorical device. Comparing "liberals" to "the terrorists" is pretty stoopid. It just another aspect of accusing them of being "anti-American."

Liberals don't believe in using violence to push their agenda, conservatives -- and terrorists -- do.

Liberals don't believe that their religion is more important than other people's. Conservatives -- and Islamic terrorists -- do.

Liberals believe that justice is justice and everyone deserves certain basic human rights. Conservatives -- and terrorists -- think that some people are not human enough to be treated with dignity.

Liberals believe in the rule of law. Neo-conservatives -- and terrorists -- believe that ideology can place you above the law.

I'd like to hear from the resident "Liberals are evil" crowd about whether or not they think that these are as accurate of stereotypes of conservatives as the ones that they continue to spew about liberals.

lol,

- who do you think gets violent during WTO meetings? Who do you think vandalizes property as part of animal rights and environmental campaigns? These folks tend liberal, not conservative.

- Everyone is in the same bucket on the religion issue.

- except for unborn children. But they're not human, right?

- Liberals believe in interpreting law to fit them best. See Fed 9th Circuit Court as an example.

everybody's got their radicals...
church bombings?
abortion doctors murdered?

idiots are idiots no matter their ideology.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
On another forum that I sometimes frequent (a rabid right-wing place not unlike Freeperville), I saw this reply to a YALHA (Yet Another Liberals Hate America) post and thought that it was a pretty good comeback to the "Liberals hate America" and the just-as-frequently-used "Liberalism is akin to terrorism" mularky:

It's still a pretty lame rhetorical device. Comparing "liberals" to "the terrorists" is pretty stoopid. It just another aspect of accusing them of being "anti-American."

Liberals don't believe in using violence to push their agenda, conservatives -- and terrorists -- do.

Liberals don't believe that their religion is more important than other people's. Conservatives -- and Islamic terrorists -- do.

Liberals believe that justice is justice and everyone deserves certain basic human rights. Conservatives -- and terrorists -- think that some people are not human enough to be treated with dignity.

Liberals believe in the rule of law. Neo-conservatives -- and terrorists -- believe that ideology can place you above the law.

I'd like to hear from the resident "Liberals are evil" crowd about whether or not they think that these are as accurate of stereotypes of conservatives as the ones that they continue to spew about liberals.

lol,

- who do you think gets violent during WTO meetings? Who do you think vandalizes property as part of animal rights and environmental campaigns? These folks tend liberal, not conservative.

- Everyone is in the same bucket on the religion issue.

- except for unborn children. But they're not human, right?

- Liberals believe in interpreting law to fit them best. See Fed 9th Circuit Court as an example.

everybody's got their radicals...
church bombings?
abortion doctors murdered?

idiots are idiots no matter their ideology.

Nope sorry, our idiots are better than your idiots!

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
On another forum that I sometimes frequent (a rabid right-wing place not unlike Freeperville), I saw this reply to a YALHA (Yet Another Liberals Hate America) post and thought that it was a pretty good comeback to the "Liberals hate America" and the just-as-frequently-used "Liberalism is akin to terrorism" mularky:

It's still a pretty lame rhetorical device. Comparing "liberals" to "the terrorists" is pretty stoopid. It just another aspect of accusing them of being "anti-American."

Liberals don't believe in using violence to push their agenda, conservatives -- and terrorists -- do.

Liberals don't believe that their religion is more important than other people's. Conservatives -- and Islamic terrorists -- do.

Liberals believe that justice is justice and everyone deserves certain basic human rights. Conservatives -- and terrorists -- think that some people are not human enough to be treated with dignity.

Liberals believe in the rule of law. Neo-conservatives -- and terrorists -- believe that ideology can place you above the law.

I'd like to hear from the resident "Liberals are evil" crowd about whether or not they think that these are as accurate of stereotypes of conservatives as the ones that they continue to spew about liberals.

lol,

- who do you think gets violent during WTO meetings? Who do you think vandalizes property as part of animal rights and environmental campaigns? These folks tend liberal, not conservative.

- Everyone is in the same bucket on the religion issue.

- except for unborn children. But they're not human, right?

- Liberals believe in interpreting law to fit them best. See Fed 9th Circuit Court as an example.

everybody's got their radicals...
church bombings?
abortion doctors murdered?

idiots are idiots no matter their ideology.

Agreed, I was just replying to the OP's assertion that the quote was a good comeback. In reality, with a couple of changes the comeback could be used by conservatives.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: zendari
Which conservatives pursue happiness at the expense of their life and liberty?

Their life and liberty? None. At the expense of my life and liberty and freedoms? rove, dumbya, dead-eye, coulter, limbaugh, hannity, dumbsfeld, rice, etc...

You seem to still be alive.

Keep looking in the mailbox for that letter from MENSA, it'll be there any day now. Yes, but the fact that I could be swept off for no just cause or have my phones tapped without a court order or my internet activity monitored without a court order is a violation of my liberty, so, granted I am still alive, my lack of liberty has only occurred under dumbya's watch.

Zinggggggggg :laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Passions
Liberals are terrorists sympathizers. I wouldn't go as far as calling them terrorists though. But, like terrorists, they actually love and feed off negative press. IED blowing up young marines, and the liberals get jolly off it.

Such a sad world we live in. Washington must be rolling in his grave.

FFS go back to kids table.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ahhh hahahaha, it's so nice to see the neo-cons goosestep in time with each other. As a liberal, a tree-hugging liberal, I am for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without governmental interference into my private life. I also believe in caring for those less fortunate, which falls under the whole pursuit of happiness, and maybe under life, and before you break out your pro-life off tune drum, relax, i am not pro-abortion, I just feel that an individuals right to choose is just that, their right, and no matter how many times you shove your god into the discussion, it's still their right, and they may not even believe in your god, which is also their right, under the whole freedom of expression and religion thingy.
So go on, flame me, I really don't care, you're at best a one trick pony that has his show closing very soon.
Enjoy firebombing the planned parenthood clinics, you're so pro-life.

Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate.

You can stop helping those less fortunate any time you want. What's stopping you? Don't let a silly thing like Uncle Sam stand in the way. Complaining about it as much as you do on an internet message board should count for something, right? A small discount perhaps..

If you are waiting for the perfect neo-con to come into office and disband all these social programs you cry about day in and day out, got a news flash for ya.. this person does not exist. The programs aren't going anywhere thankfully, but you on the other hand will when your pissin' and moanin' turn into actions on your part.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ahhh hahahaha, it's so nice to see the neo-cons goosestep in time with each other. As a liberal, a tree-hugging liberal, I am for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without governmental interference into my private life. I also believe in caring for those less fortunate, which falls under the whole pursuit of happiness, and maybe under life, and before you break out your pro-life off tune drum, relax, i am not pro-abortion, I just feel that an individuals right to choose is just that, their right, and no matter how many times you shove your god into the discussion, it's still their right, and they may not even believe in your god, which is also their right, under the whole freedom of expression and religion thingy.
So go on, flame me, I really don't care, you're at best a one trick pony that has his show closing very soon.
Enjoy firebombing the planned parenthood clinics, you're so pro-life.

Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate.

You can stop helping those less fortunate any time you want. What's stopping you? Don't let a silly thing like Uncle Sam stand in the way. Complaining about it as much as you do on an internet message board should count for something, right? A small discount perhaps..

If you are waiting for the perfect neo-con to come into office and disband all these social programs you cry about day in and day out, got a news flash for ya.. this person does not exist. The programs aren't going anywhere thankfully, but you on the other hand will when your pissin' and moanin' turn into actions on your part.

Standing up for our "basic human rights" is pissing and moaning? Well I guess that's what the leftwingers do about Bush all the time, and he's not going anywhere either. :laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

Zzzzzzzzendari

Your deflecting aside, Bush IS going somewhere and after he has come and gone, those same social programs that make you cry deep into the night will still be here and you will still be paying into them.

Every time I see a unwed mom toting 10 kids into a clinic to pay for their kids healthcare with your paycheck taxes, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside Americans don't let trivial things like kids being afforded the right for free health care stand in the way of their happiness. But it is great to see how miserable it makes the America haters.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ahhh hahahaha, it's so nice to see the neo-cons goosestep in time with each other. As a liberal, a tree-hugging liberal, I am for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without governmental interference into my private life. I also believe in caring for those less fortunate, which falls under the whole pursuit of happiness, and maybe under life, and before you break out your pro-life off tune drum, relax, i am not pro-abortion, I just feel that an individuals right to choose is just that, their right, and no matter how many times you shove your god into the discussion, it's still their right, and they may not even believe in your god, which is also their right, under the whole freedom of expression and religion thingy.
So go on, flame me, I really don't care, you're at best a one trick pony that has his show closing very soon.
Enjoy firebombing the planned parenthood clinics, you're so pro-life.

Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate.

You can stop helping those less fortunate any time you want. What's stopping you? Don't let a silly thing like Uncle Sam stand in the way. Complaining about it as much as you do on an internet message board should count for something, right? A small discount perhaps..

If you are waiting for the perfect neo-con to come into office and disband all these social programs you cry about day in and day out, got a news flash for ya.. this person does not exist. The programs aren't going anywhere thankfully, but you on the other hand will when your pissin' and moanin' turn into actions on your part.

Standing up for our "basic human rights" is pissing and moaning? Well I guess that's what the leftwingers do about Bush all the time, and he's not going anywhere either. :laugh:

You mean like DeLay didn't go anywhere? Did you ever go back to that thread? You know the one........

This thread that got locked before you could revisit it in the 60 day timeframe.

Wanna bet that you won't be revisiting this thread either if the Dems do what is expected in November?

 

[raildogg]

Rightiswrong, I'm not too sure about your motives. Judging from your past posts, I think I have an idea.

You people here are too quick with the labels. With the "right" and the "left", with the liberal and the conservative, with the Republican and the Democrat. Why automatically label someone?

Don't you realize that some of us don't fall into any label? Don't you realize that some people are free thinkers?

When you say liberals hate America, that is too broad and hard to take that comment seriously. I'm sure there are Americans who hate America, but they can be anybody, doesn't have to be a liberal.

The first post here is "stoopid" to borrow that term. So to counter the right wing, they are also now comparing the conservatives with terrorists. What a way to show them, huh?

This is just pathetic, sorry. One of the dumbest things I've seen and I've seen plenty here.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Zzzzzzzzendari

Your deflecting aside, Bush IS going somewhere and after he has come and gone, those same social programs that make you cry deep into the night will still be here and you will still be paying into them.

Every time I see a unwed mom toting 10 kids into a clinic to pay for their kids healthcare with your paycheck taxes, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside Americans don't let trivial things like kids being afforded the right for free health care stand in the way of their happiness. But it is great to see how miserable it makes the America haters.

Perhaps. No matter how much the socialists have usurped our rights, that gives no reason to give up the fight.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

You mean like DeLay didn't go anywhere? Did you ever go back to that thread? You know the one........

This thread that got locked before you could revisit it in the 60 day timeframe.

Wanna bet that you won't be revisiting this thread either if the Dems do what is expected in November?

What is expected? Yeah, ok.

 

[Mathlete]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ahhh hahahaha, it's so nice to see the neo-cons goosestep in time with each other. As a liberal, a tree-hugging liberal, I am for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without governmental interference into my private life. I also believe in caring for those less fortunate, which falls under the whole pursuit of happiness, and maybe under life, and before you break out your pro-life off tune drum, relax, i am not pro-abortion, I just feel that an individuals right to choose is just that, their right, and no matter how many times you shove your god into the discussion, it's still their right, and they may not even believe in your god, which is also their right, under the whole freedom of expression and religion thingy.
So go on, flame me, I really don't care, you're at best a one trick pony that has his show closing very soon.
Enjoy firebombing the planned parenthood clinics, you're so pro-life.

Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate, or to keep my finances within my private life without governmental interference.

I'm confused. Do you want to do away with the whole tax system?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Mathlete

Originally posted by: zendari
Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate, or to keep my finances within my private life without governmental interference.

I'm confused. Do you want to do away with the whole tax system?

A solid proportion of it could be done away with.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Mathlete
I'm confused. Do you want to do away with the whole tax system?

Taxes are actually not required. In fact, we actually pay them almost solely to protect the interests of the rich who have significant assets and banks who have made loans to the government, and other such interested parties who require protection from inflation. Otherwise, it could be possible to fund a government solely by altering the currency supply -- a provision that would have been in the US Constitution except for the fact that our country began life already saddled with considerable debt (from the Revolutionary War).

 

[Mathlete]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Mathlete

Originally posted by: zendari
Maybe I should be able to exercise my "right to choose" whether to help the less fortunate, or to keep my finances within my private life without governmental interference.

I'm confused. Do you want to do away with the whole tax system?

A solid proportion of it could be done away with.

Like if I don't like the cops snooping around my house can I elect to not pay the portion of my taxes that go to them? I also am not a big fan of sales tax. I thought it was a tax for selling the item not buying. Can I elect to not pay sales tax anymore?

 

[Mathlete]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Mathlete
I'm confused. Do you want to do away with the whole tax system?

Taxes are actually not required. In fact, we actually pay them almost solely to protect the interests of the rich who have significant assets and banks who have made loans to the government, and other such interested parties who require protection from inflation. Otherwise, it could be possible to fund a government solely by altering the currency supply -- a provision that would have been in the US Constitution except for the fact that our country began life already saddled with considerable debt (from the Revolutionary War).

Although I don't question the fact that a "government" could be run on very little money, I do feel that it takes taxes to build a "nation". The fact that our taxes are spent in F'ed up places is a different story.