Why do marijuana smokers bother me?

[Dirigible]

I don't have a problem with pot, and think its criminalization causes more problems than it solves.

That said, it doesn't sound like you're being a baby. If you want to be a police officer and you're hanging out with law breakers without doing anything about it, it reflects quite badly on you. If you knowingly allowed it in your car, you are asking for big trouble. If this became public you'd be screwed.

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: Looney
Yes you're being unreasonable. Obviously it's part of who she is, and she's already compromised for you. If you aren't even willing to meet her halfway, then it obviously won't work... and since you're upset even over the little she's doing, i doubt you'll ever get over it.

so i should be ok with coming home one day and saying "hey honey, i arrested two guys for having marijuana on them"

......while my g/f just smoked the hour before?

That's a huge part of the problem. If you condone law breaking in your life, you lose the moral authority to enforce those laws when it comes to others.

I don't think I could handle being with someone who smoked if I were in your shoes. Their family, should they continue to break the law, would have to hide it from me as well or I would feel obligated to arrest them.

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: kstu
what would your opinion be if mj didnt stand between you and your dream job?

i probably wouldnt care being around it. but i still wouldnt do it.

 

[cjgallen]

Marijuana politics aside, you are pursuing a career in law enforcement, and people breaking the law bothers you. It doesn't seem unreasonable or childish to me.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: kstu
what would your opinion be if mj didnt stand between you and your dream job?

I think I understand why you asked that, but it seems kind of irrelevant since being around it could solely burn down his career.

 

[kstu]

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: kstu
what would your opinion be if mj didnt stand between you and your dream job?

i probably wouldnt care being around it. but i still wouldnt do it.

well it seems like your problem is not with mj smokers or the drug itself, just that you want to land a job in law enforcement, which is perfectly reasonable.

i also think that this is a serious problem that you may not be able to overcome in your relationship.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: cjgallen
Marijuana politics aside, you are pursuing a career in law enforcement, and people breaking the law bothers you. It doesn't seem unreasonable or childish to me.

Exactly.

You shouldn't have to bend over backwards for anything that rubs you the wrong way... and on top of that, you're going to be a cop and they are doing something that is illegal. I would be surprised to meet anyone in your situation who had any other point of view..

Edit: read-a-bil-ity

 

[torpid]

It's pretty simple... if you become a cop, she can't be committing crimes in your house on a regular basis. It creates too much stress and also means you couldn't ever have coworkers over, and would have to worry about your credibility being called into question if someone ever found out about it, which would directly impact your ability to do your job.

Also, you would have to be constantly wary of all sorts of crap. Like making sure none of your cop buddies tells a funny joke around her and making sure your clothes don't have a certain smell to them.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: UDT89
a hardass? lol.

Well wanna-be hardass. I've met enough cops and ran into the law enough to know your type. If you find it so hard to understand your gf on this, you're not going to be very understanding with people you don't know. And if you get offended so easily by posts on an internet, you're going to be even more offended in real-life when people stand up to you.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Dirigible
I don't have a problem with pot, and think its criminalization causes more problems than it solves.

That said, it doesn't sound like you're being a baby. If you want to be a police officer and you're hanging out with law breakers without doing anything about it, it reflects quite badly on you. If you knowingly allowed it in your car, you are asking for big trouble. If this became public you'd be screwed.

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: Looney
Yes you're being unreasonable. Obviously it's part of who she is, and she's already compromised for you. If you aren't even willing to meet her halfway, then it obviously won't work... and since you're upset even over the little she's doing, i doubt you'll ever get over it.

so i should be ok with coming home one day and saying "hey honey, i arrested two guys for having marijuana on them"

......while my g/f just smoked the hour before?

That's a huge part of the problem. If you condone law breaking in your life, you lose the moral authority to enforce those laws when it comes to others.

I don't think I could handle being with someone who smoked if I were in your shoes. Their family, should they continue to break the law, would have to hide it from me as well or I would feel obligated to arrest them.

That's a pretty good statement. Your situation is much different than most.

 

[tcG]

Originally posted by: Dean
I agree with the OP. My stepson is a pothead and says.."I can quit any time I want"

The thing is he hasn't and his life is a mess. He constantly misses work, he'll blow his entire paycheck on dope over the course of a weekend. He will then stooge of his pothead buddies to carry him over to the next paycheck.

His whole life revolves around getting high, but so many in here try to say it is not destructive like booze. I told him that if I find anything drug related in this house, he is out on his ass and the locks are being changed.

So much for a cool lifestyle. Almost 22 years old, has a kid on the way and will not make the slightest attempt to grow up.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Marijuana in itself is not addicting. It has no addicting properties, and withdrawal symptoms are little to none.

The people who get psychologically addicted to marijuana are the same type of people who get 'addicted' to caffeine or even sex.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: UDT89
a hardass? lol.

Well wanna-be hardass. I've met enough cops and ran into the law enough to know your type. If you find it so hard to understand your gf on this, you're not going to be very understanding with people you don't know. And if you get offended so easily by posts on an internet, you're going to be even more offended in real-life when people stand up to you.

Wow, talk about stereotyping.

This guy has a moral issue with being around drugs and you're totally flaming him for no reason.

Maybe sit the next few plays out.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Tizyler
Man.. some of you guys are being way too harsh on him.

I smoke at least a couple times a week, usually, but I completely understand where you're coming from.

It sounds like you know what's up, unlike most people who have never tried smoking, or don't smoke occasionally, but you just have a moral problem with being around someone who is smoking all of the time. Face it guys--this is a lot different than hanging out with people who speed in their cars.

I think she has tried to make things work for you, and you are trying to be considerate... but sometimes you can't change the way you feel about something.

Maybe take some time to think about it and tell her how you feel. There may not be an easy way to resolve this, short of her quitting.

Or find a new GF who doesn't smoke weed. Seriously, I wouldn't risk my career over this. First, it's illegal. Second, you are going to be a police officer. Imagine how it would look if your GF or, down the road, your wife were arrested for possession?

 

[Kadarin]

Marijuana is just one of those things..

It's bad because it's illegal, and it's illegal because it's bad. And that's really all there is to it, just circular reasoning.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: michaels
Do you have the same opinion of smokers and drinkers? If not, why?

They arent breaking the law.......

You should be more worried about morality than the law, as the law should not be dictating morality - it should be the other way around.

In a perfect world, that would be true. But i'd imagine that the police force would want officers like him that don't think for themselves.

Yes, I would like the police to take the law into their own hands based on their own personal beliefs. Sounds like an excellent system.

Which is why this isn't a perfect world, and we have hardasses like him being cops.

Your perfect world requires everyone's moral system to be based on yours. There's no universal moral code. There are definitely universal moral wrongdoings but even in your perfect world where every cop can determine what's right and wrong and never run into a gray issue, the fact that they're always choosing the right action that everyone agrees with means they're conforming to some norm.

You leave the people to determine morality and laws and you have the police operate within them to uphold them. There are laws that are wrong, true, and it takes brave people to stand up against them, but to have officers picking and choosing which laws to follow and not follow will not lead to a better system.

 

[Dumac]

Wow, this guy came asking a question in a completely amiable manner, and everyone has to ignore his question and proceed to profess their cop hating and MJ defending beliefs. I'm sorry, UDT89, that you came here for friendly advice and found it lacking.

You aren't being a baby, but the marijuana issue seems to be a serious one between you and your girlfriend. I seriously doubt you can get her to quit altogether, plus she has already compromised, so the ball seems to be mainly in your court. Can you live with the hypocrisy of jailing drug users while you're own girlfriend at home is smoking with the reward of being with this girl that you find so great?

You also have to consider the risks, such as what would happen if your girlfriend got caught. How would that slide over at your work? Plus, how would her family react to you being a cop?

You seriously need to think about this before continuing the relationship. It's best to make a decision now, rather than deciding it won't work later.

 

[RadioHead84]

Nah I think you are fine. Your job is such that you can ruin your life if u get caught with it...thats fair

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Tizyler
Man.. some of you guys are being way too harsh on him.

I smoke at least a couple times a week, usually, but I completely understand where you're coming from.

It sounds like you know what's up, unlike most people who have never tried smoking, or don't smoke occasionally, but you just have a moral problem with being around someone who is smoking all of the time. Face it guys--this is a lot different than hanging out with people who speed in their cars.

I think she has tried to make things work for you, and you are trying to be considerate... but sometimes you can't change the way you feel about something.

Maybe take some time to think about it and tell her how you feel. There may not be an easy way to resolve this, short of her quitting.

Or find a new GF who doesn't smoke weed. Seriously, I wouldn't risk my career over this. First, it's illegal. Second, you are going to be a police officer. Imagine how it would look if your GF or, down the road, your wife were arrested for possession?

QFT

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: UDT89
a hardass? lol.

Well wanna-be hardass. I've met enough cops and ran into the law enough to know your type. If you find it so hard to understand your gf on this, you're not going to be very understanding with people you don't know. And if you get offended so easily by posts on an internet, you're going to be even more offended in real-life when people stand up to you.

Wow, talk about stereotyping.

This guy has a moral issue with being around drugs and you're totally flaming him for no reason.

Maybe sit the next few plays out.

Tough titties. You're going to need to learn that people have opinions and make inferences on the interweb.

 

[Scarpozzi]

1. Smoking weed is illegal. I'm not going to argue whether or not I believe it should be illegal.
2. If you disagree with what she does and it's that big of a deal...confront her with it. She probably won't give it up for you and it would be a tremendous thing to ask her to do. (especially if it's a habit that's rooted so deeply in her family's culture...if you can call it that)
3. You'll probably have to either accept it or break things off with this girl. Personally, I'm not going to say pot smokers are not capable of great things. To be honest though, most jobs I know of that are worth anything do periodic drug screening and finacial stability to me is more important than getting high.

She may eventually grow out of it. A lot of pot smokers do....some don't. Just start with talking and be patient. If you still don't feel settled, get out and start looking for a new chick. Trust me....a law enforcement man can find chicks pretty easy as long as you stay clear of the donuts.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: UDT89
a hardass? lol.

Well wanna-be hardass. I've met enough cops and ran into the law enough to know your type. If you find it so hard to understand your gf on this, you're not going to be very understanding with people you don't know. And if you get offended so easily by posts on an internet, you're going to be even more offended in real-life when people stand up to you.

Wow, talk about stereotyping.

This guy has a moral issue with being around drugs and you're totally flaming him for no reason.

Maybe sit the next few plays out.

Tough titties. You're going to need to learn that people have opinions and make inferences on the interweb.

What better place to learn than ATOT?

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: michaels
Do you have the same opinion of smokers and drinkers? If not, why?

They arent breaking the law.......

You should be more worried about morality than the law, as the law should not be dictating morality - it should be the other way around.

In a perfect world, that would be true. But i'd imagine that the police force would want officers like him that don't think for themselves.

Yes, I would like the police to take the law into their own hands based on their own personal beliefs. Sounds like an excellent system.

Which is why this isn't a perfect world, and we have hardasses like him being cops.

Your perfect world requires everyone's moral system to be based on yours. There's no universal moral code. There are definitely universal moral wrongdoings but even in your perfect world where every cop can determine what's right and wrong and never run into a gray issue, the fact that they're always choosing the right action that everyone agrees with means they're conforming to some norm.

You leave the people to determine morality and laws and you have the police operate within them to uphold them. There are laws that are wrong, true, and it takes brave people to stand up against them, but to have officers picking and choosing which laws to follow and not follow will not lead to a better system.

Blah blah blah blah blah

If you read the thread on who my favorite philosophers were, you'd know what my stance on this is (assuming you know Hobbes).

 

[shocksyde]

How are we supposed to answer this question? Only you can answer it, and you did in your post. So why the hell did you post if you already answered your own question?

TROLL.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
How are we supposed to answer this question? Only you can answer it, and you did in your post. So why the hell did you post if you already answered your own question?

TROLL.

:laugh:

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Looney
Blah blah blah blah blah

If you read the thread on who my favorite philosophers were, you'd know what my stance on this is (assuming you know Hobbes).

Woah, nice argument. I'll look into Hobbes some more since we only went over him briefly a long time ago.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Looney
Blah blah blah blah blah

If you read the thread on who my favorite philosophers were, you'd know what my stance on this is (assuming you know Hobbes).

Woah, nice argument. I'll look into Hobbes some more since we only went over him briefly a long time ago.

Argue about what? You spent 10mins rehashing things that i don't disagree with.