Why do Muslims have such a hard-on against Jews?

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: hatim
rextilleon; I wouldnt call fvcking animals civilized.

Who would?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Sultan
If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

If he resides in the US, then I believe much of his gas actually comes from his own country, Canada, and Mexico.

I believe that is factually incorrect. Saudi Arabia supplies the largest amount of oil by volume. Other contributors include Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and the USA's own reserve. Saudi Arabia supplies a tad bit over 16% of the USA's oil. 31% of imported oil comes from the Middle East.

Figures

Therefore, rextilleon should stop using gas altogether, since ~$0.31 of each dollar he spends on gas goes to the development of Muslim nations.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Sultan
If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

If he resides in the US, then I believe much of his gas actually comes from his own country, Canada, and Mexico.

I believe that is factually incorrect. Saudi Arabia supplies the largest amount of oil by volume. Other contributors include Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and the USA's own reserve. Saudi Arabia supplies a tad bit over 16% of the USA's oil. 31% of imported oil comes from the Middle East.

Figures

Therefore, rextilleon should stop using gas altogether, since ~$0.31 of each dollar he spends on gas goes to the development of Muslim nations.

Your own link shows that Canada sends more oil to the US than does Saudi Arabia. Mexico does as well. When you add in the various processed oil products (i.e. all forms other than crude oil), Canada send WAY more than SA.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: hatim
rextilleon; I wouldnt call fvcking animals civilized.

Who would?

Don't know...but americas call it "freedom"

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: hatim
rextilleon; I wouldnt call fvcking animals civilized.

Who would?

Don't know...but americas call it "freedom"

Fvcking animals isn't legal anywhere in the United States. Where are you going with this?

 

[Red Dawn]

n/m

 

[Sultan]

His original followers WERE Jewish. Many of his current followers are also. ANd Jesus is the Son of God who arose on the 3rd day after his crucifiction. He died on the cross for ALL people's sins. That is what the Jewish Pharasiees had a problem with. They wanted to exclude everyone that was non-Jewish from salvation. After he arose, God became the Holy Trinity -- The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Three entities in one. I know that it may not make sense the way I put it. I AIN'T a preacher, but I have read the bible, the New Testament a couple of times.

hmm... so it wasnt the Jews who crucified him? if it was, they crucified him for their own salvation? then why are they Jews and not Chrisitans? who are Jewish Pharasiees? many of Jesus' folowers are Jews? then how is the Bible related to their religion? and why did God come down as Jesus? to correct the Jews or preach a new religion?

i know about the Trinitarian concept. but i thought it was the father who 'slept' with Mary to give birth to himself as the son and died to become the holy ghost. am i incorrect?

OK then, well you seem to be at least half-interested in this subject. Take a gander at one of those stations, or MUCH better yet, go visit a preacher at a Christian church and ask him about the history of Judaeism/Islam/Christianity. Tell him you are just interested in the history. 99.9999% will give you the relationships in MUCH greater detail than I can. And for the 0.0001% who can't, umm, run FAST!

I dont get any Christian Evangelical stations. When I have had a chance to watch them, they always seem to be asking for donations. I have spoken to preachers. Thats how I am able to ask questions as above. You just gave me quiet a different perspective.

As far as the Islamo-facists in the world, there are MANY MANY out there. Concentrated in Saudi Arabia, and Iran. They want to set up Islamic Theoacracys, and most of the countries of the middle east are set up that way. It is a horrible way to live, and the people are in utter poverty. They stay in powere by blaming all of their problems on Israel. Truth of the matter is, EXCLUDING Israel and oil, the GDP of the entire mid-east is LESS than FINLAND! The Imams blame this on Israel, and all other points of view are dealt with by a sword to the hand. THAT is Islamo-Facism.

So you are implying that people who believe that religion defines the way of life are Islamo-facists? I do not see anything wrong with an Islamic theocracy. I think most religions define the way of life. If the government is run according to what God commanded (as believed by the people), these people should rather be called devouts and not "Islamo-facists". People are in utter poverty because of their indifference to make life better. It has nothing to do with their beliefs. We do not have an Islamic Theocracy in place so you cannot blame poverty on the intentions of the "Islamo-facists".

Yes, the GDP of all Muslim nations COMBINED is less than that of Germany or France or whatever. Do you have any factual basis for linking your so-called "Islamo-facists" to the low GDP? There are people who blame every act of violence on Islam. Are they "Christo-facists" or "Jewo-facists"? Come on dude.

Why does Sadr need to die? He was running a newspaper. The USA closed it down. He's now FIGHTING for the very freedom that the USA promised the Iraqis. I am sorry to see the state of hostility you have for Middle Eastern Imams and Sadr, without knowing what they preach and what they stand for. Is that not "Michaelo-facism"?

And Iran is next. Iran is presently building a Nuclear plant. Now why I favor Nuclear energy (different topic all together) it dosen't need to be in the hands of ANYONE in the middle east. Not for the next hundred years or so after we win the war. In 1980 I believe it was, Israel launched a preemptive attack on Iraq's nuclear plant. They sure did have the foresight. That's what needs to happen now. A couple of smart bombs from an F-117A and that Nuclear problem is solved.

So you're objecting to development and progress of a Middle Eastern nation and then blaming the "Islamo-facists" on blocking the development? And you also support preemptive strikes by Israel on Iraq's nuclear power plant? :roll: A sovereign nation is attacked without justification. And then you blame the "Islamo-facists" of criticizing Israel? If Iraq HAD built that nuclear power plant, I doubt 10000+ Iraqi CIVILIANS would have died, for no reason to boot!

Lets be happy that a Middle Eastern nation is progressing and let Iran build its power plant. We have many and we are pretty trigger happy. Lets give them a chance.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Sultan, first of all, I would never report anyone to the moderators--Your fellow traveler hatim is a jew hater supreme but I feel that he has a right to express his bizzare views. Thats the difference between the west and the Isalamo-fascist states of the Middle East. In other words, Hatim and you have the right to make your claims but we have the right to point out the error in your ways--thats what we call FREE SPEECH--something that is non-existent throughout Islam.

then stop complaining. there's no such thing as Islamo-facist states. you can continue living in your fantasy world. and your claim about the non-existence of Free Speech in Islam is another example of your stupidity.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Sultan
If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

If he resides in the US, then I believe much of his gas actually comes from his own country, Canada, and Mexico.

I believe that is factually incorrect. Saudi Arabia supplies the largest amount of oil by volume. Other contributors include Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and the USA's own reserve. Saudi Arabia supplies a tad bit over 16% of the USA's oil. 31% of imported oil comes from the Middle East.

Figures

Therefore, rextilleon should stop using gas altogether, since ~$0.31 of each dollar he spends on gas goes to the development of Muslim nations.

Your own link shows that Canada sends more oil to the US than does Saudi Arabia. Mexico does as well. When you add in the various processed oil products (i.e. all forms other than crude oil), Canada send WAY more than SA.

my bad, i didnt compute correctly. nonetheless, would you also suggest to rextilleon that he should stop using gas altogether, since a significant portion of each dollar he spends on gas goes to the development of Muslim nations?

 

[rextilleon]

Tell us about free speech in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Syria, Egypt I could go on and on. By the way, I don't drive--once again you assume when you shouldn't assume.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Tell us about free speech in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Syria, Egypt I could go on and on. By the way, I don't drive--once again you assume when you shouldn't assume.

very good. remember, you shouldnt drive. it contributes to development of Muslim nations. you should also use no electricity. some part of electricity generated comes from buring of oil. i appluad your committment to anti-Islam.

What should I tell you about free speech there? They're fine as they are. I dont hear the people of those countries complaining about lack of free speech. Why are you complaining? By the way, even if they DO have a lack of free speech, what does that have to do with Islam? Once again you assume when you shouldn't assume.

 

[theblooms]

Originally posted by: Sultan


hmm... so it wasnt the Jews who crucified him? if it was, they crucified him for their own salvation?

Bingo! YOu got it!


then why are they Jews and not Chrisitans? who are Jewish Pharasiees?

Like I said, SOME of them are. Not alot, mind you. The Pharasiees were the Jewish "preachers" back then. Pretty much they were for thier own enrichment.



many of Jesus' folowers are Jews? then how is the Bible related to their religion? and why did God come down as Jesus? to correct the Jews or preach a new religion?

The Old testament follows the Torah pretty closely, if I am not mistaken, though I have never read the Torah. The New Testament tell why Jesus came to earth and tells His story and why you should believe in Him.

i know about the Trinitarian concept. but i thought it was the father who 'slept' with Mary to give birth to himself as the son and died to become the holy ghost. am i incorrect?


No, there was no "sleeping" going on there. God did not have to get freaky to give Mary a child. He just willed it. He IS God, you know! You got the Holy Ghost thing perfect.



I dont get any Christian Evangelical stations. When I have had a chance to watch them, they always seem to be asking for donations.

Yeah, that's the exact reason I don't watch them either.

I have spoken to preachers. Thats how I am able to ask questions as above. You just gave me quiet a different perspective.

Well thank you!





So you are implying that people who believe that religion defines the way of life are Islamo-facists?

NO! Not at all, Islamo-facists REFUSE to allow any other point of view or religion in their country! Penalty is Death! THAT is a facist!

I do not see anything wrong with an Islamic theocracy. I think most religions define the way of life. If the government is run according to what God commanded (as believed by the people), these people should rather be called devouts and not "Islamo-facists".

Theoacracys have NEVER worked every in the thousands of years they have been on earth, no matter what religion is used, from Christianity, Judaeism or Islam. People are ALWAYS persecuted for the "wrong" beliefs under Theoacracies. Always. And THAT is why they are no good.



People are in utter poverty because of their indifference to make life better.

BINGO! You got it!

It has nothing to do with their beliefs. We do not have an Islamic Theocracy in place so you cannot blame poverty on the intentions of the "Islamo-facists".

Yes I can, because hate is preached in those Mosques over there. They are told that it would be heaven on earth if Israel was gone, and all problems that the people are experiencing would be gone and the streets would be paved with gold. They are told that there is no use in trying to better themselves as long as Israel exists, because Israel will just kill them for getting ahead. Utter Bile!


Yes, the GDP of all Muslim nations COMBINED is less than that of Germany or France or whatever. Do you have any factual basis for linking your so-called "Islamo-facists" to the low GDP? There are people who blame every act of violence on Islam. Are they "Christo-facists" or "Jewo-facists"? Come on dude.


YES! Like I said above, the Mosques keep their people dumb, because they want power! The only way people have to be free and prosperous is through education! Like I said above, everything is blamed on Israel! There USED to be many Chriso-facists see the Crusades and the Inquisition, where people were tortured to death for having the wrong beliefs, and Judeo-Facists see the Pharasiees where people were routienly crucified for having the wrong beliefs!



Why does Sadr need to die? He was running a newspaper. The USA closed it down. He's now FIGHTING for the very freedom that the USA promised the Iraqis. I am sorry to see the state of hostility you have for Middle Eastern Imams and Sadr, without knowing what they preach and what they stand for. Is that not "Michaelo-facism"?

Sadr needs to die because he preahes hate twords the NEW Iraq and arms terrorists against freedom. He just wasn't publishing a simple newspaper, he was orchestrating strikes agains freedom. We have tried AT LEAST 3 times to make peace with him! THREE TIMES! EVERY time, HE renigs and starts terrorist attacks against Iraqi Police and Security forces as well as Coalition troops. THe ONLY way to stop Terrorists is to KILL them. They WILL NOT STOP unitl they ARE stopped!




So you're objecting to development and progress of a Middle Eastern nation and then blaming the "Islamo-facists" on blocking the development?

Yup!

And you also support preemptive strikes by Israel on Iraq's nuclear power plant? :roll: A sovereign nation is attacked without justification.

There was PLENTY of justification! He would have NUKED ISRAEL! That is a FACT!

And then you blame the "Islamo-facists" of criticizing Israel? If Iraq HAD built that nuclear power plant, I doubt 10000+ Iraqi CIVILIANS would have died, for no reason to boot!

Not true, he WOULD have nuked Israel killing MILLIONS, and then Israel would have nuked him back, then Egypt, Arabia, and Syria invades Israel, backed by the Soviets, then NATO would have jumped in against the Soviets, then the end of the world. The Israels SAVED the earth by taking that plant out!


Lets be happy that a Middle Eastern nation is progressing and let Iran build its power plant. We have many and we are pretty trigger happy. Lets give them a chance.

Sorry, but AT THIS TIME, the world CAN'T take a chance. Like I said, I have NO problem in the future with the WHOLE WORLD developing Nuclear Power, the cleanest and cheapest electricity known to man, just not in the middle east. Soon, not now.


Man, I am LOVING this debate! You are pretty sharp, Sultan!

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Sultan, first of all, I would never report anyone to the moderators--Your fellow traveler hatim is a jew hater supreme but I feel that he has a right to express his bizzare views. Thats the difference between the west and the Isalamo-fascist states of the Middle East. In other words, Hatim and you have the right to make your claims but we have the right to point out the error in your ways--thats what we call FREE SPEECH--something that is non-existent throughout Islam.

then stop complaining. there's no such thing as Islamo-facist states. you can continue living in your fantasy world. and your claim about the non-existence of Free Speech in Islam is another example of your stupidity.

well said

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: hatim
rextilleon; I wouldnt call fvcking animals civilized.

Who would?

Don't know...but americas call it "freedom"

Fvcking animals isn't legal anywhere in the United States. Where are you going with this?

Soon will be at the rate of stupid laws being passed....

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: hatim
Soon will be at the rate of stupid laws being passed....

You have to be kidding.

That slippery slope has so many plateaus I'm thinking of doing some tiered farming on it.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: hatim
Soon will be at the rate of stupid laws being passed....

You have to be kidding.

That slippery slope has so many plateaus I'm thinking of doing some tiered farming on it.

20 years ago passing a law legalizing gay marraiges was absurb, unthinkable...now its reality. Samething with animals. If you have moved away from the reason why MAN was created with a penis I donot think It will be long before even more wrong usage of it will be "legalized" ...

Just a pity.

The American soceity and things that are wrong with it.

1. Americans always think they are higher than other nationals, specially muslim one. Dont need proof because it is pretty evident.

2. Homosex. Ill effects should be evident pretty soon.

3. The use of tissue papers for wiping of waste from your exits. And you call yourself hygenic. No basic cleaniless, and you say americans westerners are more hygenic than Islam. Please donot compare amerians with poor muslims without basic water. Muslims in an acceptable financial position will always be cleaner physically than a normal westerner.

4. Respect for elders. Have you noticed that if it wasnt for your grand father, you wouldnt have been in this world? And now most of you dump them into "jails" known as retirement centres or nursing homes. Shows how much you care.

5. Adultery...higest rate of diveroce in the world. If it werent for your flourishing econonmy imagine where you would be.

Good things that Pakistan lacks and needs to fix soon. Pakistan i far verse than the states. But giveing an example that american society aint perfect. No use of letting you people know about a true Islamic state, when it appears you will see for yourself.

Paksitan

1. No Patriotism

2. corrutpion

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Brilliant analysis with an incredible command of the language. You are quite the genius--LOL! Maybe the same Iman could wash your mouth out too--

Doubt it, i'm Jewish.

 

[Zephyr106]

The use of tissue papers for wiping of waste from your exits.

Bwahahahaha "Why do Muslims have such a hard-on against sh!t?"

I haven't seen much of you around, you really should post more often.

Zephyr

 

[The Green Bean]

In formal language its not called sh!t

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: hatim
Soon will be at the rate of stupid laws being passed....

You have to be kidding.

That slippery slope has so many plateaus I'm thinking of doing some tiered farming on it.

20 years ago passing a law legalizing gay marraiges was absurb, unthinkable...now its reality. Samething with animals. If you have moved away from the reason why MAN was created with a penis I donot think It will be long before even more wrong usage of it will be "legalized" ...

Just a pity.

The American soceity and things that are wrong with it.

1. Americans always think they are higher than other nationals, specially muslim one. Dont need proof because it is pretty evident.

2. Homosex. Ill effects should be evident pretty soon.

3. The use of tissue papers for wiping of waste from your exits. And you call yourself hygenic. No basic cleaniless, and you say americans westerners are more hygenic than Islam. Please donot compare amerians with poor muslims without basic water. Muslims in an acceptable financial position will always be cleaner physically than a normal westerner.

4. Respect for elders. Have you noticed that if it wasnt for your grand father, you wouldnt have been in this world? And now most of you dump them into "jails" known as retirement centres or nursing homes. Shows how much you care.

5. Adultery...higest rate of diveroce in the world. If it werent for your flourishing econonmy imagine where you would be.

Good things that Pakistan lacks and needs to fix soon. Pakistan i far verse than the states. But giveing an example that american society aint perfect. No use of letting you people know about a true Islamic state, when it appears you will see for yourself.

Paksitan

1. No Patriotism

2. corrutpion

There's no substance in this post.

I think on the first plateau I'll grow carrots. On the next one I'm gonna have potatoes (I love potatoes!). Maybe some corn, too.

Higher up I'll have my goats graze. So I can eat them.

 

[Sultan]

hmm... so it wasnt the Jews who crucified him? if it was, they crucified him for their own salvation?

Bingo! YOu got it!

ehhh??? It wasnt the Jews who crucified him? Or was it? Jews believed Jesus was God and they tortured him and put him on a crucifix? That doesnt make any sense. Did Jesus, as God, tell Jews to do this to him? If he did, why arent all Jews Christians, or why is their a religion called Christianity anyways?

Like I said, SOME of them are. Not alot, mind you. The Pharasiees were the Jewish "preachers" back then. Pretty much they were for thier own enrichment.

SOME Jews are Christians? But not a lot? What do you mean? I thought Christians were Christians, and Jews were Jews. I dont understand what you are saying. Thanks for the info on Pharasiees.

The Old testament follows the Torah pretty closely, if I am not mistaken, though I have never read the Torah. The New Testament tell why Jesus came to earth and tells His story and why you should believe in Him.

Who wrote the Old Testament? Who wrote the New Testament? How is each related to the Jewish religion? I dont think Jews follow the Bible. They follow the Torah.

No, there was no "sleeping" going on there. God did not have to get freaky to give Mary a child. He just willed it. He IS God, you know! You got the Holy Ghost thing perfect.

I know the concept. Thats why I put "slept" in quote. From what I have learned, Jews believe Jesus was son of Satan, and not of God. I may be wrong. Correct me if I am. If not that, a simple search on Google regarding Jewish belief in Jesus contradicts your claim of Jews believing in Jesus as a God, a Prophet or a Messiah.

NO! Not at all, Islamo-facists REFUSE to allow any other point of view or religion in their country! Penalty is Death! THAT is a facist!

I dont know of any person who REFUSES to allow any other point of view or religion in their country. Nor have I seen the Penalty of Death being imposed. An example you can quote is the existence of Blasphemy law in Pakistan, but it is hardly ever carried out, the majority of Muslims in the nation are against it and the there's no basis for it in Islam, as far as I know.

Theoacracys have NEVER worked every in the thousands of years they have been on earth, no matter what religion is used, from Christianity, Judaeism or Islam. People are ALWAYS persecuted for the "wrong" beliefs under Theoacracies. Always. And THAT is why they are no good.

Theocracy HAS worked in many instances that I am aware of. They worked WITHOUT persecution and on the contrary, contributed to a lively economy, equality and over all justice for all living under the theocracy. When it has failed, it was due to the leaders not following the principles of the religion they were supposedly basing the government on.

People are in utter poverty because of their indifference to make life better.

BINGO! You got it!

And therefore, theocracy is not to be blamed.

Yes I can, because hate is preached in those Mosques over there. They are told that it would be heaven on earth if Israel was gone, and all problems that the people are experiencing would be gone and the streets would be paved with gold. They are told that there is no use in trying to better themselves as long as Israel exists, because Israel will just kill them for getting ahead. Utter Bile!

Since you are not aware of what is taught in Masjids across the world, you cannot be serious about your claim. I have studied in a Masjid and so have my brothers, my parents, their parents and so on and so forth. In fact, the vast majority of people in Pakistan go through religious teachings at the Masjids. Friday congregation prayers ALL over the world have sermons, even in the United States. Do you see me holding the belief that you state?

YES! Like I said above, the Mosques keep their people dumb, because they want power! The only way people have to be free and prosperous is through education! Like I said above, everything is blamed on Israel! There USED to be many Chriso-facists see the Crusades and the Inquisition, where people were tortured to death for having the wrong beliefs, and Judeo-Facists see the Pharasiees where people were routienly crucified for having the wrong beliefs

Again, a false charge. Masjids have religious leaders who teach religion, not preach hatred. Since you have not been to a Masjid, or rather, have not had years of experience going to a Masjid, you cannot speak of what goes on in there. Masjids have actually been the center of learning for a large number of years and much of science and math progress has taken place within those walls. Maybe not in the present times, but there's always a rise and fall to every empire.

Sadr needs to die because he preahes hate twords the NEW Iraq and arms terrorists against freedom. He just wasn't publishing a simple newspaper, he was orchestrating strikes agains freedom. We have tried AT LEAST 3 times to make peace with him! THREE TIMES! EVERY time, HE renigs and starts terrorist attacks against Iraqi Police and Security forces as well as Coalition troops. THe ONLY way to stop Terrorists is to KILL them. They WILL NOT STOP unitl they ARE stopped!

Thats spoken like a "Michaelo-facist". The Muslims can say the same thing about Israel who have Zionist intentions, but no, that would not be right according to you. He WAS publishing just a newspaper in which the message was to get the USA out of Iraq. Being 'free people' and 'liberated', I believe the Iraqis had the right to voice their opinions. He was orchestrating strikes against a foreign military force. Thats how you'd view it if OBL barged into your house. WE have not tried to make peace with anyone. WE have made critical mistakes again, and again and again, including shutting down his newspaper. Will you agree to OBL's peace initiatives after he settles into your home? How do you justify the claim of Sadr being a terrorist? He is fighting against the Coalition Troops (an invansion force) and those who support the Invasion Forces. He on the other hand is fighting for his right as an Iraqi. Just labelling anyone a terrorist is not right. Thats what Bush does, call someone a terrorist and the buck stops here. Reminds me of that CIA dude who claimed so and so is a communist and threw them into jail without any justification.

So you're objecting to development and progress of a Middle Eastern nation and then blaming the "Islamo-facists" on blocking the development?

Yup!

Thats a VERY biased and quite ridiculous mentality. They cannot develop because their development is seen as threatening towards others, and then you blame the "Islamo-facists".

There was PLENTY of justification! He would have NUKED ISRAEL! That is a FACT!

lol How do you claim that to be a fact? If you are to believe that, you must be one of those large majority of American who believe Saddam DID have WMD's, he and OBL were buddies, and he was instrumental in the 9/11 attacks See the post on a recent poll somewhere on P&N.

Not true, he WOULD have nuked Israel killing MILLIONS, and then Israel would have nuked him back, then Egypt, Arabia, and Syria invades Israel, backed by the Soviets, then NATO would have jumped in against the Soviets, then the end of the world. The Israels SAVED the earth by taking that plant out!

Again, all hypothetical arguments. A nuclear power plant in any case would only be able to provide the fuel for nuclear warheads at the most. Building a nuclear weapon does not need a nuclear power plant. All components, including the fuel for the warhead is easily available in the black market. Evidence is the recent blow-over of the nuclear scientist from Pakistan supplying technology in the black market. There was no justification whatsoever of a nation attacking another nation without provocation.

Sorry, but AT THIS TIME, the world CAN'T take a chance. Like I said, I have NO problem in the future with the WHOLE WORLD developing Nuclear Power, the cleanest and cheapest electricity known to man, just not in the middle east. Soon, not now.

So you're limiting the Middle East of progress and blame it on the "Islamo-facists" :roll: and then they are ridden in poverty and turn to fanaticism, still you'll blame them for having low GDP and being extremists and all. The rest of the world can progress, just not the Middle Eastern nation. Even Israel can possess Nuclear capability, which has as much share of handing out persecution as receiving it! Is there any way the Middle Eastern Muslims can satisfy you?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Brilliant analysis with an incredible command of the language. You are quite the genius--LOL! Maybe the same Iman could wash your mouth out too--

Doubt it, i'm Jewish.

lol
are you serious?
damn, i MUST hate you then!

 

[rextilleon]

Who cares what your religion is?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Who cares what your religion is?

Ehm, you were the one talking about the Imam, remember?

BTW, i am an ethnic Jew. It really isn't a religion to be an ethnic Jew.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: theblooms
Matter of fact is, if you watch any length of Christian Evangelical stations, (of which I really don't) you will see them taking up offerings to help out Israel all the time. The Evangelical Christians in America are probably the Israeli's staunchist allies on EARTH!

Just as being aginst Israel doesn't make one against Jews, being for Israel doesn't make one pro-Jewish. Evangelical Christians are pro-Israel because the 20th century re-appearance of Israel is seen as a fulfillment of their eschatological prophecies, not because they're great supporters of Judaism.