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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: glenn1
I'm not quite sure I get the fixation on Jews by the Muslims. It seems like a more fitting target of their rage would have been the British or French who ruled various Arab states as protectorates for decades. Instead, even before there was an Israel, the Muslim community was focused on Jews. Hell, they managed to put together an pan-arab army to attack Israel when it was created. No such luck for Tunisia which had been suffering under French rule since 1883 and didn't gain independence until the mid 50s. Arabs took no real role in assisting Muslim Pakistan in its multiple wars against Hindu India. Not a peep out of the Islamic world over China's repression of Muslims (which continues to this day), nor when Bangaladesh decided to seceed from Muslim Pakistan, or when the Christian Phlangists in Lebanon used to butcher up Shiites or Druze, not to mention secular and Ba'athist Syria more or less turning the country into a client state.
So what gives?
I dont think Muslims have a fixation on Jews. I think anyone of any religion would be pissed off if you just invade their land, occupy more of their land, force curfew on a city of 2 million for a settlement of 20 thousand, build a wall, have numerous checkpoints all on the basis of claiming the land is their birthright from 3000 years or something.
And on the opposite spectrum, Jews would surely have a problem with Muslims wearing nails and explosives on their bodies and blowing themselves up in buses and cafes.
Also, I think it has more to do with Arab pride of still not being able to stamp their authority on their own land is much of a cause of the friction. And the above doesnt include the authority Israel stamps on its neighbors due to the financial, economic and political support of the US.
IMO, I think the Palestinians/Arabs are much worse off than the Jews. From what I have heard from Israeli Arabs, their rights compared to the Israeli Jew rights also fall into second or third class status.
Concur: With Respect to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Jews, Christians, and Muslims were living in Palestine for centuries under ottoman and later european cololnial control without serious in fighting or civil unrest.
I was under the impression, from history class, that the territory was first promised to the local people it what was assumed to be a majority arab secular state before the Balfore declaration. The root of the conflict was the fact that that Muslim palestinans were screwed. Today the palestinians are amid squalor while the Israelis enjoy one of the highest stnadards fo living in the region. The disenfranchisement of the local people in favor of Jewish settlers from europe or where ever only server to inflame tensions and highlight the divergent standards of living for the different groups.
The Israelis have been at least as agressive toward their neighboring countries as the neighbors have been toward them. They have shown a strong tendancy toward preemptive strikes and agressive diplomacy. It is much more likly that their behavior rather than some sort of preexisting religious hatred by their arab muslim neighbors, is the cause of the existing tensions and animosity toward the Israelis among the same. At its heart the conflict is about land not religion.