Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
No, i dont support large-scale discriminatory actions. I realize large-scale discriminatory actions are bad. You're a nutcase, like Mr. Mongoose. I never supported the all the above that you wrote.
lol, b/c someone is against discriminatory actions, he must not believe in God! You are very tolerant!
Can you point me the way to the firing squad?
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
No, i dont support large-scale discriminatory actions. I realize large-scale discriminatory actions are bad. You're a nutcase, like Mr. Mongoose. I never supported the all the above that you wrote.
lol, b/c someone is against discriminatory actions, he must not believe in God! You are very tolerant!
Can you point me the way to the firing squad?
another example of low iodine intake causing cretinism.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
How do you know that I even share the same God as you do? How do you know anything about my God's teachings? You don't. You've just shown your complete intolerance and discriminatory nature towards anyone of non-Muslim background again.
Any tax system that differentiates greatly between two different people while putting a more demeaning tax on one of the groups is discriminatory. One that puts in upon religious or racial differences is disgusting.
I'm acting like a dog? You're the one that has supported a discriminatory tax system. You're the one that pretended to know my religious beliefs. You're the one that now dismisses my God over yours. I think it's clear who is intolerant here.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
No, i dont support large-scale discriminatory actions. I realize large-scale discriminatory actions are bad. You're a nutcase, like Mr. Mongoose. I never supported the all the above that you wrote.
lol, b/c someone is against discriminatory actions, he must not believe in God! You are very tolerant!
Can you point me the way to the firing squad?
another example of low iodine intake causing cretinism.
another example of a mass-scale discrimination supporter in P&N supporting intolerance, genocide, etc.
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
How do you know that I even share the same God as you do? How do you know anything about my God's teachings? You don't. You've just shown your complete intolerance and discriminatory nature towards anyone of non-Muslim background again.
Any tax system that differentiates greatly between two different people while putting a more demeaning tax on one of the groups is discriminatory. One that puts in upon religious or racial differences is disgusting.
I'm acting like a dog? You're the one that has supported a discriminatory tax system. You're the one that pretended to know my religious beliefs. You're the one that now dismisses my God over yours. I think it's clear who is intolerant here.
So your God teaches you intolerance
I agree with your second paragraph. I dont support such a tax system. Jizyah is a fair, non-discriminatory tax system.
Its you thats intolerant.
Originally posted by: glenn1
I'm not quite sure I get the fixation on Jews by the Muslims. It seems like a more fitting target of their rage would have been the British or French who ruled various Arab states as protectorates for decades. Instead, even before there was an Israel, the Muslim community was focused on Jews. Hell, they managed to put together an pan-arab army to attack Israel when it was created. No such luck for Tunisia which had been suffering under French rule since 1883 and didn't gain independence until the mid 50s. Arabs took no real role in assisting Muslim Pakistan in its multiple wars against Hindu India. Not a peep out of the Islamic world over China's repression of Muslims (which continues to this day), nor when Bangaladesh decided to seceed from Muslim Pakistan, or when the Christian Phlangists in Lebanon used to butcher up Shiites or Druze, not to mention secular and Ba'athist Syria more or less turning the country into a client state.
So what gives?
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I have had some time and furiously insuled Rabid Mongoose, i have apologized and he accepted my apology, but this s what Rabid and Canoworms does in a lot of threads, they spin it to find it insulting and then pound the poster into he ground.
I is not funny nor productive, and i do believe if the two of you take a step back you can see it, at times it can be enough for me, so i leave for a while, but it never takes long before you guys are at it again, i have learned enough, just never respond to canowroms, ever, he is just out to spin your reply to mean anything he chooses, so don't reply to him, Rabid is more honest but still a chaser and a spinner (sorry Rabid, but you sometimes are).
I assume it is to stop others from posting different opinions, if you are from india you are a racist and us europeans are racist too, a different opinion is treated like a racist attck.
Frankly, it gets very old very fast. Or IOW, Rabid, cool it, you are a sensible man, there is no need for this BS, canoworms should have been banned a long time ago.
I assume it is to stop others from posting different opinions, if you are from india you are a racist and us europeans are racist too, a different opinion is treated like a racist attck.
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
This has actually partially continuing from another thread. Sorry, but when someone says that I don't believe in God and that makes me intolerant without even knowing if I believe in God or not and then tries to impose his God's teachings upon me, then I'm going to comment on it. Combine that with the fact that he supports what is clearly a discriminatory tax system, then it's pretty disgusting. Maybe he shouldn't have brought me into this crap when he first brought my 'name' up. Anyways, his views are possibly much in line with why the OP is asking this question.
I assume it is to stop others from posting different opinions, if you are from india you are a racist and us europeans are racist too, a different opinion is treated like a racist attck.
When did I ever say anything like this? A different opinion is welcome, as I've always stated that I support people with opposing viewpoints. However, a racist opinion is racist. Plain and simple. A different opinion is not racist or discriminatory by any means. However, if you say 'I hate black people', 'I hate Muslims', 'I want to tax non-Muslims differently', 'Atheists need to die', 'Homosexuals need to be thrown off a cliff' and what not, then you don't deserve respect.
Klixxer, you cause a firestorm in almost every thread you enter. I'm sure that I do as well, but stupid posts earn stupid replies. Let's not forget your tirades where you 'make' chicken sounds, say that the US celebrates genocide because of John Wayne movies, the various firestorms even in the off topic forum (where I and others had to try to tone you down there as it isn't like P&N), the whole caste system argument where you refused to pick up a dictionary. Frankly you come off as an uneducated brute who believes that he's always right and if he doesn't get his way, the other person must be banned or you will fling childish insults.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
If anyone believes in a racist or discriminatory belief because their holy book or God tells them to, then that doesn't deserve respect, IMO. It's time to open up your eyes and adapt to today's times. Religion is not and should not be an excuse for outright hatred.
But this BS is beyond that, you and canoworm pretty much pound he poster (in this case sultan, in other threads it has been me, FreeGeeks and even the levelheaded Swede Sunner told me no to boher) in to the ground, it feels like a tag team effort and you have to admit that calling a German jew a nazi is a bit out of line, it is insulting in a way you could not grasp.
I AM an uneducated brute, tha pretty much sumes me up, what is YOUR excuse for behaving like that?
I have NEVER claimed to be very intelligent or anything close to it, but i have been fighting all my life to be accepted for who i am, a fvcked up christian raised jew living in Germany, find the grounds for your convictions against me with labels as racist and nazi, justify them or just stop the name calling.
And btw, unlike you and canoworms, i live in europe, you are telling me what i see every day isn't actually what i see but you have no idea, you just read it somewhere, i am sorry if i as a European come of as if i know anything about Europe.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
If anyone believes in a racist or discriminatory belief because their holy book or God tells them to, then that doesn't deserve respect, IMO. It's time to open up your eyes and adapt to today's times. Religion is not and should not be an excuse for outright hatred.
What religion or holly book tells their followers that?
The Quran says to respect all religions. Islam is a holly religion, it is not a religion but a way of life. A life to give into God for this life is just a test and the next life (followed by your death) is the next step. Be as holly and good as you can be and give into God and God will reward you. That sums it up for you. Give money to the poor if you have wealth, visit the Mecca, pray 5x a day, Fast, etc.. That's a basic Muslim's goal in life. It is not to go out and kill Jews/Christians.
Anyone who uses their holly book as their reason for hate is not a religious person, but a hateful person.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
If anyone believes in a racist or discriminatory belief because their holy book or God tells them to, then that doesn't deserve respect, IMO. It's time to open up your eyes and adapt to today's times. Religion is not and should not be an excuse for outright hatred.
What religion or holly book tells their followers that?
The Quran says to respect all religions. Islam is a holly religion, it is not a religion but a way of life. A life to give into God for this life is just a test and the next life (followed by your death) is the next step. Be as holly and good as you can be and give into God and God will reward you. That sums it up for you. Give money to the poor if you have wealth, visit the Mecca, pray 5x a day, Fast, etc.. That's a basic Muslim's goal in life. It is not to go out and kill Jews/Christians.
Anyone who uses their holly book as their reason for hate is not a religious person, but a hateful person.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
If anyone believes in a racist or discriminatory belief because their holy book or God tells them to, then that doesn't deserve respect, IMO. It's time to open up your eyes and adapt to today's times. Religion is not and should not be an excuse for outright hatred.
What religion or holly book tells their followers that?
The Quran says to respect all religions. Islam is a holly religion, it is not a religion but a way of life. A life to give into God for this life is just a test and the next life (followed by your death) is the next step. Be as holly and good as you can be and give into God and God will reward you. That sums it up for you. Give money to the poor if you have wealth, visit the Mecca, pray 5x a day, Fast, etc.. That's a basic Muslim's goal in life. It is not to go out and kill Jews/Christians.
Anyone who uses their holly book as their reason for hate is not a religious person, but a hateful person.
That's what I'm saying. Some people are hiding behind their religion while spouting hateful beliefs.
You probably thought I was attacking Islam as a whole, which I am not. I'm not attacking any other religion as a whole either. Perhaps I'm attacking one segment of Islam that Sultan is supporting. However, would we be attacking Hinduism if we attacked the old caste system? Would that be disgusting? No, it would be fine to say that the caste system was horrible. Any belief that is discriminatory or racist is horrendous.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
How do you know that I even share the same God as you do? How do you know anything about my God's teachings? You don't. You've just shown your complete intolerance and discriminatory nature towards anyone of non-Muslim background again.
Any tax system that differentiates greatly between two different people while putting a more demeaning tax on one of the groups is discriminatory. One that puts in upon religious or racial differences is disgusting.
I'm acting like a dog? You're the one that has supported a discriminatory tax system. You're the one that pretended to know my religious beliefs. You're the one that now dismisses my God over yours. I think it's clear who is intolerant here.
So your God teaches you intolerance
I agree with your second paragraph. I dont support such a tax system. Jizyah is a fair, non-discriminatory tax system.
Its you thats intolerant.
Yes, I'm intolerant when you assume that I don't believe in a God and say I'm intolerant because of that unsubstantiated assumption. I'm intolerant because I'm against a discriminatory tax system. I'm intolerant while you are busy imposing your God's teachings on me.
It's pretty clear who the intolerant one is. You are busy being intolerant and discriminatory while hiding behind your religion.
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
How do you know that I even share the same God as you do? How do you know anything about my God's teachings? You don't. You've just shown your complete intolerance and discriminatory nature towards anyone of non-Muslim background again.
Any tax system that differentiates greatly between two different people while putting a more demeaning tax on one of the groups is discriminatory. One that puts in upon religious or racial differences is disgusting.
I'm acting like a dog? You're the one that has supported a discriminatory tax system. You're the one that pretended to know my religious beliefs. You're the one that now dismisses my God over yours. I think it's clear who is intolerant here.
So your God teaches you intolerance
I agree with your second paragraph. I dont support such a tax system. Jizyah is a fair, non-discriminatory tax system.
Its you thats intolerant.
Yes, I'm intolerant when you assume that I don't believe in a God and say I'm intolerant because of that unsubstantiated assumption. I'm intolerant because I'm against a discriminatory tax system. I'm intolerant while you are busy imposing your God's teachings on me.
It's pretty clear who the intolerant one is. You are busy being intolerant and discriminatory while hiding behind your religion.
pretty clear indeed
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Everyone should just stop it and stop speaking for God. You all have no idea what is wrong or right and if someone's holly book says so respect it, don't believe it if you choose not to. Putting another religion down and making yours look superior is surely punishable by going to Hell if you so believe in any form of an afterlife.
If anyone believes in a racist or discriminatory belief because their holy book or God tells them to, then that doesn't deserve respect, IMO. It's time to open up your eyes and adapt to today's times. Religion is not and should not be an excuse for outright hatred.
What religion or holly book tells their followers that?
The Quran says to respect all religions. Islam is a holly religion, it is not a religion but a way of life. A life to give into God for this life is just a test and the next life (followed by your death) is the next step. Be as holly and good as you can be and give into God and God will reward you. That sums it up for you. Give money to the poor if you have wealth, visit the Mecca, pray 5x a day, Fast, etc.. That's a basic Muslim's goal in life. It is not to go out and kill Jews/Christians.
Anyone who uses their holly book as their reason for hate is not a religious person, but a hateful person.
That's what I'm saying. Some people are hiding behind their religion while spouting hateful beliefs.
You probably thought I was attacking Islam as a whole, which I am not. I'm not attacking any other religion as a whole either. Perhaps I'm attacking one segment of Islam that Sultan is supporting. However, would we be attacking Hinduism if we attacked the old caste system? Would that be disgusting? No, it would be fine to say that the caste system was horrible. Any belief that is discriminatory or racist is horrendous.
It's time to adapt to the modern world. There is no reason to be hateful or discriminatory of others just because they are a different skin color or religion.
It shouldn't, but an affirmative action program is nowhere on scale of a mass scale discriminatory tax system that you have supported. There is no reason to say 'You are Jewish and therefore must pay a special tax for simply being Jewish'.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
If you believed in God, you'd respect His teachings and act with tolerance. Since you dont know nothing about Islam, and despite my repeated attempts to get into your think skull that equality must be preserved and yet a religious obligation not be forced upon those who do not follow the same faith, you still are acting like a dog.
The tax system as described in Islam is not discriminatory. You're a tard if you continue trying to prove otherwise.
How do you know that I even share the same God as you do? How do you know anything about my God's teachings? You don't. You've just shown your complete intolerance and discriminatory nature towards anyone of non-Muslim background again.
Any tax system that differentiates greatly between two different people while putting a more demeaning tax on one of the groups is discriminatory. One that puts in upon religious or racial differences is disgusting.
I'm acting like a dog? You're the one that has supported a discriminatory tax system. You're the one that pretended to know my religious beliefs. You're the one that now dismisses my God over yours. I think it's clear who is intolerant here.
So your God teaches you intolerance
I agree with your second paragraph. I dont support such a tax system. Jizyah is a fair, non-discriminatory tax system.
Its you thats intolerant.
Yes, I'm intolerant when you assume that I don't believe in a God and say I'm intolerant because of that unsubstantiated assumption. I'm intolerant because I'm against a discriminatory tax system. I'm intolerant while you are busy imposing your God's teachings on me.
It's pretty clear who the intolerant one is. You are busy being intolerant and discriminatory while hiding behind your religion.
pretty clear indeed
Yup, thanks for bolding the words that apply to yourself.
I honestly hope that this has been another valuable lesson to you. Don't assume what other people's religious beliefs are and don't try to impose your own religious views onto others.
Originally posted by: Sultan
Jizyah is a tenent of Islam. Ask any practicing Muslim and he'll explain it to you the way I did. Zakat for Muslims, Jizyah for non-Muslims.
I have not tried to impose my religion on you. You can follower whoever and whatever you want.
Jizyah neither promotes discrimination, nor is racist, nor hateful.
I brought your name onto this post regarding Arithi comment on Muslim appeasement in India, which you claimed to be "affirmative action". So now you believe benefit to one religion over another is "affirmative action"?
See -> "affirmative action program"?
With regards to that quote, should the statement used by you as an example be -> "You are Jewish, but this is Muslim land, and therefore you have to do what Islam says, so you pay Zakat also"???
Originally posted by: Sultan
Your words apply to you
And you dont teach me nothing, so you can carry on trying to take credit and get whatever meek pleasure you get out it
As I said in the above post, I have no intention of imposing my religious views onto any other. Stop living in your fantasy land and dreaming of words to put in my mouth