Why do Muslims have such a hard-on against Jews?

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Sultan
Answers to your question:

1. No.

2. n/a.

thanks

you're welcome. if you have any other questions, i'd be glad to answer them.

 

[rextilleon]

Love you Sultan---! Your language and racism should not be allowed in any forum. The difference between spousal abuse and the treatment of Muslim women in many instances in Islam is that spousal abuse is illegal and there are options for women. In Islam there are options---more of the same treatment perhaps under a different oppressor. By the way, those direct quotes from the Koran--tell which ones were misquoted? Hey, he's your guy not mine.

 

[theblooms]

Yeah, well the only "Christians" who have problems with Jews are redneck KKK members. Guess what? Jesus was (drum roll please) JEWISH! People who hate Jews are NOT Christians. Heck, people who HATE aren't Christians.

Matter of fact is, if you watch any length of Christian Evangelical stations, (of which I really don't) you will see them taking up offerings to help out Israel all the time. The Evangelical Christians in America are probably the Israeli's staunchist allies on EARTH!

So in all reality, the only people hating the Jews are the Skinheads (National Socalists [Nazis] who want the government to run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. Hitler) or Islamo-facists who want to convert or kill everyone on earth (and have the Mosque run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. bin Laden.)

Michael

Originally posted by: Sultan

I'm sorry but I had no knowledge about this. I always thought it was the Jews and the Christians who couldnt stand each other from a religious point of view. After all, the Jews put Jesus up on the crucifix (Muslims dont believe he was crucified at all). Furthermore, I thought Jews called Jesus the son of the devil. Any knowledgable Jew and/or Christian wishes to correct me, please do so.

 

[rextilleon]

Sultan, there is no place in the civlized world for you or your brand of Islam. How anyone can rationalize the treatment of Muslim women throughout the world by insinuating that spousal abuse is the norm in the West? By the way, what have you and your "brothers" contributed to civilization in the last 500 years. The Jews who you despise have given the world the polio vaccine, the discovery of the structure of the atom, the theory of relativity, and hundreds of life saving inventions in medicine and biotechnology.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Sultan, there is no place in the civlized world for you or your brand of Islam. How anyone can rationalize the treatment of Muslim women throughout the world by insinuating that spousal abuse is the norm in the West? By the way, what have you and your "brothers" contributed to civilization in the last 500 years. The Jews who you despise have given the world the polio vaccine, the discovery of the structure of the atom, the theory of relativity, and hundreds of life saving inventions in medicine and biotechnology.

I really hate it when morons like you do idotic things like this, the man said he has nothing against Jews, his point regarding abuse of women is that no nation and no religion is free of it, not that he condones it.

So far you have managed to bring up a completely irrelevant point (clitoral circumsicion which has nothing to do with Muslims) and insult a member of this forum (several times) based on things he never said or actually refuted.

If you can't read, don't write.

 

[rextilleon]

Brilliant analysis with an incredible command of the language. You are quite the genius--LOL! Maybe the same Iman could wash your mouth out too--

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Love you Sultan---! Your language and racism should not be allowed in any forum. The difference between spousal abuse and the treatment of Muslim women in many instances in Islam is that spousal abuse is illegal and there are options for women. In Islam there are options---more of the same treatment perhaps under a different oppressor. By the way, those direct quotes from the Koran--tell which ones were misquoted? Hey, he's your guy not mine.

No, I dont want your love. Complain to the mods if you want. I'm speaking and just as I tolerate your ridiculous, illogical, immature and false statements, you can learn to tolerate truthful and factual statements from me.

"The difference between spousal abuse and the treatment of Muslim women in many instances in Islam is that spousal abuse is illegal and there are options for women. "

Wtf does that mean? I cant make heads or tails of what message you are trying to convery.

What quotes did you quote from the Quran? Show me which of your posts has a Quranic quote. Otherwise, stfu! Idiot.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: theblooms
Yeah, well the only "Christians" who have problems with Jews are redneck KKK members. Guess what? Jesus was (drum roll please) JEWISH! People who hate Jews are NOT Christians. Heck, people who HATE aren't Christians.

Matter of fact is, if you watch any length of Christian Evangelical stations, (of which I really don't) you will see them taking up offerings to help out Israel all the time. The Evangelical Christians in America are probably the Israeli's staunchist allies on EARTH!

So in all reality, the only people hating the Jews are the Skinheads (National Socalists [Nazis] who want the government to run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. Hitler) or Islamo-facists who want to convert or kill everyone on earth (and have the Mosque run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. bin Laden.)

Michael

If Jesus was Jewish, why are his followers not Jewish? I am sorry, but I do not quite understand this concept. According to Christian theology, Jesus is God. If so, does God follow a particular religion - according to you, Judaism?

I do not watch Christian Evangelical stations. Their 'offerings' do not invalidate religious teachings and thats the question I asked.

Islamo-facists is a completely new word I have read. Islam as a religion open to all. If you like it, you can follow its principles. If not, more power to you. Bin Laden does not represent Islam.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Sultan, there is no place in the civlized world for you or your brand of Islam. How anyone can rationalize the treatment of Muslim women throughout the world by insinuating that spousal abuse is the norm in the West? By the way, what have you and your "brothers" contributed to civilization in the last 500 years. The Jews who you despise have given the world the polio vaccine, the discovery of the structure of the atom, the theory of relativity, and hundreds of life saving inventions in medicine and biotechnology.

Treatment of Muslim women is fine by their spouses and family. They dont need you to speak for them. Go back to your hole.

Islam does not teach spousal mistreatment of women, or any form of mistreatment to either gender.

The oil which fills your car up comes from Muslim nations. If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

I do not despise Jews. That statement is another example of the lack of mental development you have and your poor comprehension of written English.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Brilliant analysis with an incredible command of the language. You are quite the genius--LOL! Maybe the same Iman could wash your mouth out too--

Retard. You dont even know what Iman is. Stop speaking out of your rear hole :roll:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Sultan
If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

If he resides in the US, then I believe much of his gas actually comes from his own country, Canada, and Mexico.

 

[DeeKnow]

Originally posted by: Ethex
Sorry sarcasm doesn?t translate well. Fact is those places don?t have a lot of Jews. Muslims have a hard time getting along with their neighbors worldwide.

damn.. Muslims have a hard enough time getting along with other Muslims... LOL

 

[3chordcharlie]

Jesus was born and raised Jewish. This is historical fact, regardless of the seperate matter of his divinity.

 

[theblooms]

Originally posted by: Sultan


If Jesus was Jewish, why are his followers not Jewish? I am sorry, but I do not quite understand this concept. According to Christian theology, Jesus is God. If so, does God follow a particular religion - according to you, Judaism?


His original followers WERE Jewish. Many of his current followers are also. ANd Jesus is the Son of God who arose on the 3rd day after his crucifiction. He died on the cross for ALL people's sins. That is what the Jewish Pharasiees had a problem with. They wanted to exclude everyone that was non-Jewish from salvation. After he arose, God became the Holy Trinity -- The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Three entities in one. I know that it may not make sense the way I put it. I AIN'T a preacher, but I have read the bible, the New Testament a couple of times.




I do not watch Christian Evangelical stations. Their 'offerings' do not invalidate religious teachings and thats the question I asked.


OK then, well you seem to be at least half-interested in this subject. Take a gander at one of those stations, or MUCH better yet, go visit a preacher at a Christian church and ask him about the history of Judaeism/Islam/Christianity. Tell him you are just interested in the history. 99.9999% will give you the relationships in MUCH greater detail than I can. And for the 0.0001% who can't, umm, run FAST!



Islamo-facists is a completely new word I have read. Islam as a religion open to all. If you like it, you can follow its principles. If not, more power to you. Bin Laden does not represent Islam.



As far as the Islamo-facists in the world, there are MANY MANY out there. Concentrated in Saudi Arabia, and Iran. They want to set up Islamic Theoacracys, and most of the countries of the middle east are set up that way. It is a horrible way to live, and the people are in utter poverty. They stay in powere by blaming all of their problems on Israel. Truth of the matter is, EXCLUDING Israel and oil, the GDP of the entire mid-east is LESS than FINLAND! The Imams blame this on Israel, and all other points of view are dealt with by a sword to the hand. THAT is Islamo-Facism.

The only way the world can be safe is to kill the middle eastern Imams before they have a chance to kill us. It really is the only way. al Sadr needs to die, as well as bin Laden.

And Iran is next. Iran is presently building a Nuclear plant. Now why I favor Nuclear energy (different topic all together) it dosen't need to be in the hands of ANYONE in the middle east. Not for the next hundred years or so after we win the war. In 1980 I believe it was, Israel launched a preemptive attack on Iraq's nuclear plant. They sure did have the foresight. That's what needs to happen now. A couple of smart bombs from an F-117A and that Nuclear problem is solved.

So far, Sultan, you have been asking some good questions, and I hope that we can keep this civil exchange up. I'm rather enjoying it!

Michael

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: theblooms
Yeah, well the only "Christians" who have problems with Jews are redneck KKK members. Guess what? Jesus was (drum roll please) JEWISH! People who hate Jews are NOT Christians. Heck, people who HATE aren't Christians.

Matter of fact is, if you watch any length of Christian Evangelical stations, (of which I really don't) you will see them taking up offerings to help out Israel all the time. The Evangelical Christians in America are probably the Israeli's staunchist allies on EARTH!

So in all reality, the only people hating the Jews are the Skinheads (National Socalists [Nazis] who want the government to run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. Hitler) or Islamo-facists who want to convert or kill everyone on earth (and have the Mosque run every facet of every individuals life with an iron fist ie. bin Laden.)

Michael

If Jesus was Jewish, why are his followers not Jewish? I am sorry, but I do not quite understand this concept. According to Christian theology, Jesus is God. If so, does God follow a particular religion - according to you, Judaism?

I do not watch Christian Evangelical stations. Their 'offerings' do not invalidate religious teachings and thats the question I asked.

Islamo-facists is a completely new word I have read. Islam as a religion open to all. If you like it, you can follow its principles. If not, more power to you. Bin Laden does not represent Islam.

Every Prohet was a follower of the previos prophet's religion before God made him prophet. Im afraid I cannot go deeper but.....

 

[DeeKnow]

Religion in the Arab world is mostly a sham... it's all about the money. I've traveled extensively in the middle-east and most self-appointed guardians of the virtues of the Muslim women in Saudi are choking up the causeway to Bahrain during the weekend - to get drunk and to feel up some women in the nightclubs there.... In 2 years in Iran, I probably saw about a half dozen Iranians that actually did not consume alcohol.... I myself paid off a mullah who thought one of our parties was getting too loud...

I think those marines are on the wrong side of the Iran-Iraq border....

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Religion in the Arab world is mostly a sham... it's all about the money. I've traveled extensively in the middle-east and most self-appointed guardians of the virtues of the Muslim women in Saudi are choking up the causeway to Bahrain during the weekend - to get drunk and to feel up some women in the nightclubs there.... In 2 years in Iran, I probably saw about a half dozen Iranians that actually did not consume alcohol.... I myself paid off a mullah who thought one of our parties was getting too loud...

I think those marines are on the wrong side of the Iran-Iraq border....

I completly agree...most muslim communities have become exactly like this. Thats why the name of Islam is so disrespected most places. Samething Bush is doing to America. When 2 evils fight, noone knows what happens. I mean all these mulsims on the wrong track killing, hatred...and then on the other hand bush.

 

[rextilleon]

Jesus's orginal followers were all Jewish and Jesus never denied his Judaism---Christianity was born after Jesus's death. Hatim--you are the one that buys traditional anti-semitism. I think you need to educate yourself--you have been reading to many texts that have been debunked by scholars. You have absolutley no knowledge of Judaism so I suggest that curb your hate and stop making outrageous anti-semitic statements. Dee Know--most religions have elements of hucsterism, hypocracy, and abuses. Although I despise him, Marx was correct when he said that "religion is the opiate of the masses".

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Jesus's orginal followers were all Jewish and Jesus never denied his Judaism---Christianity was born after Jesus's death. Hatim--you are the one that buys traditional anti-semitism. I think you need to educate yourself--you have been reading to many texts that have been debunked by scholars. You have absolutley no knowledge of Judaism so I suggest that curb your hate and stop making outrageous anti-semitic statements. Dee Know--most religions have elements of hucsterism, hypocracy, and abuses. Although I despise him, Marx was correct when he said that "religion is the opiate of the masses".

says you

 

[The Green Bean]

if the gpsphel was sent o Jesus, Judaism was atleast modified (from what is was then) by its teachings if not completely recreated.

 

[rextilleon]

Sultan, first of all, I would never report anyone to the moderators--Your fellow traveler hatim is a jew hater supreme but I feel that he has a right to express his bizzare views. Thats the difference between the west and the Isalamo-fascist states of the Middle East. In other words, Hatim and you have the right to make your claims but we have the right to point out the error in your ways--thats what we call FREE SPEECH--something that is non-existent throughout Islam.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: hatim
if the gpsphel was sent o Jesus, Judaism was atleast modified (from what is was then) by its teachings if not completely recreated.

Nope. Jews don't accept that Jesus was the son of God, therefore Judaism continued unaltered after Jesus' death.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Sultan, there is no place in the civlized world for you or your brand of Islam. How anyone can rationalize the treatment of Muslim women throughout the world by insinuating that spousal abuse is the norm in the West? By the way, what have you and your "brothers" contributed to civilization in the last 500 years. The Jews who you despise have given the world the polio vaccine, the discovery of the structure of the atom, the theory of relativity, and hundreds of life saving inventions in medicine and biotechnology.

Treatment of Muslim women is fine by their spouses and family. They dont need you to speak for them. Go back to your hole.

Islam does not teach spousal mistreatment of women, or any form of mistreatment to either gender.

The oil which fills your car up comes from Muslim nations. If you are so anti-Islamic, I suggest you stop contributing to the development of Muslim nations and stop buying gas.

I do not despise Jews. That statement is another example of the lack of mental development you have and your poor comprehension of written English.

rextilleon; I wouldnt call homosex and fvcking animals civilized. Neither would I call indiscriminate torture civilized....The true Islam is the only tru civiliation IMO. Sadly no country has emerged since 1200 years that has practiced this. So no point comparing misguided muslims who I agree are verse than many to other "societies"

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: hatim
if the gpsphel was sent o Jesus, Judaism was atleast modified (from what is was then) by its teachings if not completely recreated.

Nope. Jews don't accept that Jesus was the son of God, therefore Judaism continued unaltered after Jesus' death.

even muslims dont saw he was the son of god...but christianity has changed 100 folds through the dark ages middle ages and 2004 years of constant errosion. How can it? Without someone to protect it?

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: hatim
if the gpsphel was sent o Jesus, Judaism was atleast modified (from what is was then) by its teachings if not completely recreated.

Nope. Jews don't accept that Jesus was the son of God, therefore Judaism continued unaltered after Jesus' death.

even muslims dont saw he was the son of god...but christianity has changed 100 folds through the dark ages middle ages and 2004 years of constant errosion. How can it? Without someone to protect it?

I'm confused... of course Muslims don't believe Jesus was the son of God. That would really mess sh!t up don't you think?

The history of the Church is another story altogether, and way too shrouded in myth and emotion to unravel completely.