why do people get pissed off at motorcycle that split lanes?

[minihoser]

traffic is stoped or moving slowly i am not slowing them down in any way..just let me pass and deal with it.

 

[joburnet]

I don't get mad I just think it's funny to open my door and watch them crash

 

[Tauren]

Maybe because it's illegal??????

 

[DesignDawg]

[Edited because I didn't realize it was legal in some places]

No one should ever get mad at someone for obeying traffic laws.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[Total Refected Power]

I hate it. It's illegal for a reason.

 

[The Stigenator]

I believe its NOT illegal to do so (check with local PD).
I was watching Glendale Cops, and they had a CHP officer on one month. Someone asked the question. Apparently as long its done in a safe manner its cool with the officers. The reason they allow it is because Air-Cooled Engines will otherwise overheat in traffic, so they need to be constantly moving.

 

[Cerebus451]

It is legal to do in some locales. I think in most of California it is legal for motorcycles to travel down the middle of lanes in stopped traffic.

I never have a problem with it. It's one of the perks of riding a motorcycle.

 

[freebee]

While not illegal in all areas, it can be unsafe. There are those individuals out there who will just open the door to see what happens. i suppose the laws (if they are enforced) are there to protect your safety, not out of spite for motorcycles.

 

[DesignDawg]

It's true that air-cooled bikes get MIGHTY DAMN HOT when sitting at a light. If it IS legal, then I'd say go for it. It most certainly is not legal where I am. But, if you live in a place where it is, then have fun. Just be careful, and GO SLOW.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[loup garou]

I've heard it's legal in Louisiana, at least that's what my roomate said when he had his bike. Not that it's safe though!

 

[psteng19]

stupid question but...
if i swerve into them, or open my door, as someone suggested, who's fault is it? remember they are between lanes...

 

[The Stigenator]

Its safe if your going like sub 20 mph, when straffic is stopped. What I have problems with is in moving traffic (25 - 50 Mph) they do that stunt.. then its unsafe, since now the cars can change lanes a lot faster and without notice.

 

[Optimus]

Hmmmm.... bikes and bicyclists are always the first ones saying they should be treated like a car by car drivers, yet they refuse to act at all like one...which is it?

/EDIT - I obviously didn't make this at all clear... see my post below.

 

[DesignDawg]

<< if i swerve into them, or open my door, as someone suggested, who's fault is it? >>

ABSOLUTELY 100% YOUR fault. Especially if it's legalfor them to be there. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOEVER to open a door of a car in stopped or slow traffic. So, it could be reasonably concluded that you only did so to commit assault with a car. That's a serious offense. WHAT THE FSCK is it with people that they hate motorcycles so bad they want to kill the rider? Seems almost every day, someone does something to me JUST to fsck with me. Only reason? I'm on a bike. That's it. Why does riding a more convenient, more fun, more gas-effecient, more powerful, more exciting vehicle automatically make me a lesser person? SOmeone whose life is so worthless that you should be able to open your door to try to wreck me with no guilt? Anyone who would do such things just to try to crack a biker up should be put away.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DesignDawg]

<< bikes and bicyclists are always the first ones saying they should be treated like a car by car drivers, yet they refuse to act at all like one >>

Hmmmm... Is that right? So, you can just make generalizations like that and feel good about it? Well, I'll have you know, I have NEVER done anything on my bike that was &quot;not acting like a car.&quot; It's obvious you are one of the people who values the life of motorcyclists less than drivers of cars. If that's the case, fsck you AND your generalizations. If it's not the case, I suggest you make your post a little more specific.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[Total Refected Power]

I commute to Boston everyday and see bicyclists breaking the law all the time. Going through red lights, stop signs, no helmets, not yielding or signalling a turn properly. If breaking the rules, they have little protection other than the quality of the car's driver. Of course car driver's break the same laws but I fear for the bike rider when I see them weaving through traffic or blowing past a red-light. All too often I see them getting injured.

In fact they have cops on bikes whose job it is to ticket bike riders. It is that much of a problem here.

 

[minihoser]

like Cerebus451 said it is legal in CA as long as it is at a safe speed..are people just jealous because i can cut to the front of the light or can they just not control their anger.

 

[loup garou]

You know what pisses me off about bicyclists (not motorcyclists)? In New Orleans, we have a really nice road that follow the Lake, Lakeshore Drive. They close the 2 westbound lanes every weekend for people to hang out, and people to jog and ride their bikes. So what do all the &quot;hardcore&quot; cyclists (you know, the guys who do road races with their pink and purple spandex suits and matching swoopy helmets) do? Instead of using the 2 nice, closed to traffic lanes, they ride right down the middle of the open lanes, causing traffic to back up all the way down Lakeshore Drive. Drives me insane. Obviously, they're too hardcore to ride where all the kids and families do.

 

[TuffGuy]

DesignDawg - first off, i can sympathize. i drive a small eclipse gt, and everybody seems to want to cut me off, and even worse, nobody signals. but *RELAX*. you knew the risk when you bought the bike. most drivers canNOT see you, which is what makes it scary when you pass cars.

also, in regards to the &quot;bikers want to be treated like car drivers, yet they do not act like it.&quot; passing between cars during rush-hour is a fine example of what the guy was talking about. kinda like cars driving on the shoulder to beat traffic. it's stupid and dangerous. not only to yourself, but others as well.

 

[Napalm381]

<< Obviously, they're too hardcore to ride where all the kids and families do. >>

I don't blame them. A road bike traveling at 25 mph doesn't work well with joggers, kids on bikes, etc. Plus a lot of &quot;casual&quot; cyclists ride rather haphazardly and are a threat to cyclists who actually have the ability to ride in a straight line.

 

[DesignDawg]

<< but *RELAX*. you knew the risk when you bought the bike. >>

I'm fine. No need to relax here. Optimus isn't driving in my town, so his sick fsck tendancies aren't going to endanger me today. Secondaly, of course I knew the risks of getting a bike. But when I say people do stuff to me everyday, I'm talking about people MAKING EYE CONTACT and deliberately pulling out in front of me, swerving to push me off the road, cutting me off, turning in front of me, etc. People do this stuff ON PURPOSE, with hate and contempt in their eyes, when all I'm doing is driving homef rom work.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[Fandu]

Werk: Would you rather have us running over little kids and people yelling at us to get off the walking path? Granted, I usually let any cars pass me, but it's safer for everyone if we don't have to worry about little kids running everywhere

 

[The Stigenator]

riding at 25 mph is fine for a bicyclist if he or she is going on teh slowest lane. If there is an bike lane they should use that, but if its not open for that speed, then bike lanes can be avoided but general traffic shouldnt be slowed down.
I have no probelem with bicycles sharing my road space, as long as they are going at a good speed. If your going 10 miles an hour.. or lesser.. get on the bike lane or the sidewalk..

 

[TuffGuy]

<< But when I say people do stuff to me everyday, I'm talking about people MAKING EYE CONTACT and deliberately pulling out in front of me, swerving to push me off the road, cutting me off, turning in front of me, etc. People do this stuff ON PURPOSE, with hate and contempt in their eyes, when all I'm doing is driving homef rom work. >>



oh sh!t... in that case, may i recommend a .22 gauge?

 

[Optimus]

<< Optimus isn't driving in my town, so his sick fsck tendancies aren't going to endanger me today. >>


HOLY JEEZ, Ricky - what pee'd in your cornflakes this morning? MY sick fvck tendencies? Where or when did I EVER say anyone should remotely endanger anyone on a bike?

Listen - I've been riding bikes, both motor and pedal, for most of my life. In and out of traffic, on trails, motocross, and yes, busy city streets. The difference is I expect to be treated like a vehicle - like a car - if I ride. In fact, I demand it from those around me for safety. BUT, in return I act like one! How on earth are cyclists EVER going to be treated properly if we ride up shoulders, swerve and veer around cars, weave, don't signal, use pedestrian crosswalks, tear through gas stations et all at will?

SAFE MOTORCYCLISTS ARE THIER OWN BEST DEFENSE!

I say car drivers, inluding myself when driving my Pontiac, MUST respect and share the road with cyclists and treat them as equal vehicles. BUT we cyclists also MUST ride responsibly and act like vehicles too!

Holy crap Ricky, we've always pretty much gotten along here - I'm surprised and more than a little upset at getting attacked like this...

fvck this... I'm out of here for a while to calm down.

/EDIT - I'm not saying you or most or all or whatever cyclists ride badly - I posted my comment about ACTING like a vehicle when thats what we demand in a thread by someone POSTING HOW THEY DON'T!
Damn it all...