Why do people "settle" in life?

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nerp

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You might have more money, but if they are happier, they're doing better. Being satisfied does not mean settling.
 

kranky

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I knew early on that a high-stress job was not going to be healthy for me even though I had the skills for a higher level job. So I carefully chose different positions in the company that fit my requirements and at the same time let me be seen as a high performer. Turned down two big promotions over a period of time which obviously had a financial cost but it wasn't worth it to me to take the money and the stress/travel/extra hours. So while 80% of the people who have "passed me up" on the corporate ladder have left (75% got the boot, 25% left for other jobs), I still have my low stress job that will result in early retirement down the road. The next rung up has far more travel, far more stress, far more hours, and nowhere near enough additional pay. I work with those higher-ups all the time, and I can see how that stress takes a toll. You can't compartmentalize work stress into just the work hours. It bleeds into all aspects of your life.
 
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55k in a small town America isnt bad money really. Probably equal to 150k+ in say New York or San Fran.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I knew early on that a high-stress job was not going to be healthy for me even though I had the skills for a higher level job. So I carefully chose different positions in the company that fit my requirements and at the same time let me be seen as a high performer. Turned down two big promotions over a period of time which obviously had a financial cost but it wasn't worth it to me to take the money and the stress/travel/extra hours. So while 80% of the people who have "passed me up" on the corporate ladder have left (75% got the boot, 25% left for other jobs), I still have my low stress job that will result in early retirement down the road. The next rung up has far more travel, far more stress, far more hours, and nowhere near enough additional pay. I work with those higher-ups all the time, and I can see how that stress takes a toll. You can't compartmentalize work stress into just the work hours. It bleeds into all aspects of your life.

Exactly. I've had many opportunities in the past to make more money, but the positions required 50-75% travel, regular 70+ hour work weeks, etc. Why would anyone choose that?
 

purbeast0

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People are inherently lazy and "settling" is easy so people tend to do that. Although I also don't ever want to be that person who works 60+ hour weeks regularly. I could do it temporarily if it was for my own business but only if it started that way and trickled down to normal workable hours.

Personally I'm extremely motivated and I would love to be one of those people who pulled up to the Hyatt to the Yacht Club at the one I stayed at in Marathon this past February. I'm hoping that I have begun my way there but it's still a long way away if I'm on the right path.

I'm 34 and I'm already at the point that I value time off probably more so than money. I make pretty good money doing what I'm doing now but I want to make more and have an even more comfortable life. But the stability I have knowing I'll never have to work more than 40 hours a week and that I will have a constant paycheck is pretty nice.
 

Miramonti

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I think the OP confuses people who have taken the path of least resistance with those not choosing to chase top dollar or prestigious job titles, but primarily want to make a positive difference in people's lives. We need more of these types of people.
 
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squarecut1

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There was this girl I went to HS with who had 1540 SAT scores (out of 1600). She had taken 4 - 5 AP courses and obtained 3's and 4's on her AP exams and had a 4.0 GPA. She practically could go to any ivy league college under the sun. Colleges where sending her "pre-acceptance" letters based on her PSAT scores!!!

She became a Elementary school teacher making 55K a year. My thinking is this type of person should be put to good use in a laboratory finding cures to diseases or in business etc...

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Maybe you and countless others like you in the modern American society should be put to good use in lab, for diagnosis of this degenerative disease of materialism - that has hollowed out this society.
 
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Ancalagon44

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I graduated top of my high school class in a small town, got a pretty good degree, and now have a pretty decent and well paying job.

Sometimes I think I'd be happier if I was a high school teacher in a small town.
 

brainhulk

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Our high school Valedictorian was a genius. She aced everything and was in every service organization in school. Went to Harvard iirc.

Last posts I saw of her on Facebook, she was doing humanitarian work in Peru. Literally roughing it out in the boondocks teaching the locals.

I am sure she is very happy
 

OverVolt

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I knew early on that a high-stress job was not going to be healthy for me even though I had the skills for a higher level job. So I carefully chose different positions in the company that fit my requirements and at the same time let me be seen as a high performer. Turned down two big promotions over a period of time which obviously had a financial cost but it wasn't worth it to me to take the money and the stress/travel/extra hours. So while 80% of the people who have "passed me up" on the corporate ladder have left (75% got the boot, 25% left for other jobs), I still have my low stress job that will result in early retirement down the road. The next rung up has far more travel, far more stress, far more hours, and nowhere near enough additional pay. I work with those higher-ups all the time, and I can see how that stress takes a toll. You can't compartmentalize work stress into just the work hours. It bleeds into all aspects of your life.
Correct, you're incredibly wise to take stability over prestige and money. Think about all the moving costs those guys eat moving around and changing jobs
 

monkeydelmagico

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Some of the smartest people I know do some pretty mundane jobs. One buddy is a true oxygen thief. He's a part time house painter and most of the time unemployed person. Just don't play any kind of games with him unless you like to lose. Chess, othello, scrabble, you name it he'll whip you at it. Mind like a steel trap. Can fix or build almost anything and pretty much needs to because he can't afford to buy any of it.

Sometimes I feel sad or pity for him and then I got up the guts to straight asked him wtf his problem was. He said he loves the freedom to apply his intelligence in any way he sees fit every single day. It might be nice if it wasn't tax payer funded.....
 

gorcorps

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Correct, you're incredibly wise to take stability over prestige and money. Think about all the moving costs those guys eat moving around and changing jobs

To be fair, every job offer I've had since school included the cost of professional movers. I don't think that's all that uncommon either
 

Miramonti

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Some of the smartest people I know do some pretty mundane jobs. One buddy is a true oxygen thief. He's a part time house painter and most of the time unemployed person. Just don't play any kind of games with him unless you like to lose. Chess, othello, scrabble, you name it he'll whip you at it. Mind like a steel trap. Can fix or build almost anything and pretty much needs to because he can't afford to buy any of it.

Sometimes I feel sad or pity for him and then I got up the guts to straight asked him wtf his problem was. He said he loves the freedom to apply his intelligence in any way he sees fit every single day. It might be nice if it wasn't tax payer funded.....
I find this scenario far more perplexing than the OP's rant.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I find this scenario far more perplexing than the OP's rant.

When I was in undergrad 25 years ago or so, I had a professor who told us the story of one of the smartest guys he knew. Like the professor, this guy went through and got a PhD in Electrical Engineering. He then landed a job at a university in Hawaii (IIRC). He decided he liked surfing and being a beach bum more than being a professor, and I don't recall the details of what caused him to leave academia - either he just quit or he was fired for never being there. At any rate, the professor told me that the last he heard, the guy was bagging groceries in Hawaii and was still a beach bum!
 

OverVolt

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To be fair, every job offer I've had since school included the cost of professional movers. I don't think that's all that uncommon either
Realtor fees? Apartment Deposits? Stuff you can't bring with you? etc.

Every time you move you are rolling fees ontop of your mortgage. You are actually out in some cases $10k on paper.

You won't realize it till you go to retire.

Apartments build no equity. Pick your poison.
 

Yakk

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Some people pick their work to suit their life and interests, others build their life around their career work.

It's a huge difference in approch to life. The choice is individual IMHO, whatever makes you happy.
 

Miramonti

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When I was in undergrad 25 years ago or so, I had a professor who told us the story of one of the smartest guys he knew. Like the professor, this guy went through and got a PhD in Electrical Engineering. He then landed a job at a university in Hawaii (IIRC). He decided he liked surfing and being a beach bum more than being a professor, and I don't recall the details of what caused him to leave academia - either he just quit or he was fired for never being there. At any rate, the professor told me that the last he heard, the guy was bagging groceries in Hawaii and was still a beach bum!
It's hard to imagine how someone that smart can be that stupid, but it goes to show intelligence is measured in many different ways. And it's not everything. If he's happy, he's probably got something coveted that most of the world ['developed' or not] doesn't.
 

blackangst1

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Some people live to work. I find it is better to work to live. Have a high quality life instead of striving to meet whatever someone else (such as steppinthrax) determines that you should be doing.

Your example is of someone making 50x the world median income working 9 months a year. Heck, she alone made nearly 10% more than the median US household income (combining all workers in the family). She is doing VERY well at $55k/year if you think of the big picture.

She is never on-call, she doesn't have much stress, when she comes home, her job is over for the day. A lot of the people making more money than her are tethered to their work emails and texts unable to truly let work go.

Then she has her evenings, and weekends, and holidays, and summers free to pursue life.

That, and I think that recently I read that ambition was largely genetic. I didn't take the time to search for that study though to post here.

A little OT but you havent known a teacher IRL have you? My ex is one and its nothing like what you describe
 

Imp

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High school -- maybe school in general -- isn't a great determinant of who or what you become as an adult? Whaaaaaat...

I'm also looking to go into teaching, just waiting to resolve some funding issues. Graduated with a 3.95 / 4.00 GPA in grad school -- bullshit because I had many A+ grades that counted the same as regular A grades. I found my STEM jobs to be soul sucking and boring.
 

Ruptga

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It's hard to imagine how someone that smart can be that stupid, but it goes to show intelligence is measured in many different ways. And it's not everything. If he's happy, he's probably got something coveted that most of the world ['developed' or not] doesn't.
Strictly speaking, intelligence is just about problem solving, it has nothing to do with how motivated or knowledgeable a person is.

A high IQ is proof that someone is intelligent, high test scores are (generally) proof that someone is knowledgeable, and personality tests can measure what and how much different things motivate a person. You need to know all three to have a really informed opinion of someone's capabilities, but each one is harder to objectively measure than the last.
 

brianmanahan

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I’d be tempted to ‘settle’ for this job if the world somehow offered me this for rest of my life + adjusting for inflation raise, but with ZERO advancement.

settling is precisely my plan. i'm actively avoiding promotions because i like the low stress, decent paying, limited responsibility, 40 hour per week job i have now.

the goal is to work another 10-15 years in this position and when i've saved 30 * my yearly expenses, then i'm out.
 
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