Why Do Some Women Live Their Entire Lives in Denial?

[crashtech]

Went just as planned. Shitty parents quickly identified, people that understand how to raise a kid stood out and agreed.

A lot of you miserable people need to watch some more George Carlin if you find raising children to be difficult.

 

[Geekbabe]

I love my kids but there was a certain repetitive quality to many aspects of child rearing the very young. Laundry? Forget about it, it was like the perpetual pile, no matter how much I did more piled up faster than the speed of sound, same with dishes. Cooking? Why does a great meal take hours to prepare but only minutes to consume?

Yes, work sometimes involved rote or repetitive tasks but many times once I finished a project it was truly finished & shortly a new project came along.

The women I know on Facebook don't complain, rather they show off fancy baking or costumes they made for the kids. Home improvement & decorating projects are popular. I see lots of cute baby pics and many moms acknowledging how grateful they are to be home with their little ones.

Maybe I am an outlier but I was always happiest when I had paid employment in addition to my family responsibilities. Creating a Pinterest worthy lifestyle isn't something that would have ever floated my boat.

 

[Homerboy]

We went from bitching about gender bias to bitching about parenting skills all in one fell swoop?

Well when you're a insane asshole, that sort of thing tends to easily occur.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

People shouldn't forget that there's always a small minority of people that contribute the majority of work, and a lot of slackers that just do the menial shit so the skilled ones don't have to. For every mother complaining about how it takes all day to do a couple loads of laundry, there's a man that comes home complaining about a long day at work where he spent half his time gossiping with peers, neffing, or playing Windows Solitaire.

 

[MajinCry]

We went from bitching about gender bias to bitching about parenting skills all in one fell swoop?

He's trying to cover his tracks, or somethin' to that effect.

'No no, I'm not sexist! I just dislike poor parenting!'

The wife must surely be thrilled with this dishonest, self-righteous burn-drinker of a husband

 

[SlitheryDee]

Apparently I'm a wife. Guess I'll just put my dick up for safe keeping.

It's not that you're the wife. It's that the poster is either patently untrue or misleading in nearly every case.

Locking doors and turning off lights are both firmly in the man's domain because men are generally more concerned about security and unnecessary wasting of power. Men are concerned about the important things.

They don't have to take off their makeup for one because they don't wear it, but more importantly because they already showered before settling down for the evening. They don't have to brush and floss because they did that after they showered. Men get troublesome tasks out of the way early so they don't have to do them later.

They rarely lie in bed thinking about what they have to do tomorrow because what would be the point? They know it's going to be a hard day like all the rest. They've already been through so many grueling full days of work that thinking about the specifics would never do as much good as getting the extra shuteye will. Men are pragmatic.

So when you remove the things like showering and dental care, which both men and women are supposed to do every day, and you remove the lying awake in bed thinking about tomorrow, which is completely useless and should get you no credit, you're left with the women picking up toys and doing the dishes while men lock the doors and turn out the lights. The main difference is that men don't expect extra credit or complain of hardship for their contribution.

Essentially what that poster tells me is that men are superior creatures.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

...you're left with the women picking up toys and doing the dishes while men lock the doors and turn out the lights. The main difference is that men don't expect extra credit or complain of hardship for their contribution.

The jackass that expects equal credit for locking the doors and turning out the lights as his partner who did the dishes and cleaned up the toys is a fucking idiot. How long does it take to twist a deadbolt or flip a light switch? Hon, why are you complaining? I know that pile of dishes was hard work, but I just turned the lights on and off 147 times while you were doing that. Now why don't you clean up these toys real quick while I go fiddle with this lock for 3 minutes because, damn, this is some tricky shit?

The gender stereotyping on display throughout this thread is just idiotic. The idea that there are "women's jobs" or "men's jobs" around the house is just so bizarre to me. Maybe it's because I was raised in a house with two women who somehow managed to figure out shit like locking doors and turning out lights without a man around. I would never automatically assume that laundry, dishes or tidying up is woman's work because I've been doing all of that for myself since I was a child. But I also don't give people a hard time for complaining about doing those things, because who really gets a kick out of doing chores? There's a reason there's a market for paid housekeepers. All I get from the OP is he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about in regards to raising children, and if he ever complains about anything at his job he's a gigantic hypocrite. Loudmouthed ignorant hypocrites are generally better served by shutting up and listening than doubling down on stupid, but there's no helping some people.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The jackass that expects equal credit for locking the doors and turning out the lights as his partner who did the dishes and cleaned up the toys is a fucking idiot. How long does it take to twist a deadbolt or flip a light switch? Hon, why are you complaining? I know that pile of dishes was hard work, but I just turned the lights on and off 147 times while you were doing that. Now why don't you clean up these toys real quick while I go fiddle with this lock for 3 minutes because, damn, this is some tricky shit?

The gender stereotyping on display throughout this thread is just idiotic. The idea that there are "women's jobs" or "men's jobs" around the house is just so bizarre to me. Maybe it's because I was raised in a house with two women who somehow managed to figure out shit like locking doors and turning out lights without a man around. I would never automatically assume that laundry, dishes or tidying up is woman's work because I've been doing all of that for myself since I was a child. But I also don't give people a hard time for complaining about doing those things, because who really gets a kick out of doing chores? There's a reason there's a market for paid housekeepers. All I get from the OP is he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about in regards to raising children, and if he ever complains about anything at his job he's a gigantic hypocrite. Loudmouthed ignorant hypocrites are generally better served by shutting up and listening than doubling down on stupid, but there's no helping some people.

 

[MajinCry]

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How is he off point? You started this thread going 'women don't have it hard, housework is easy! Stop whining! Desk-work is far harder!', which is just a bunch of nonsense, as we've been purporting.

Then you tried to cover your ass by making it an issue of parenting by means of a couple lines.

We ain't fooled.

 

[Fritzo]

Yet another ATOT "I can't relate so therefore it's screwed up" thread.

 

[Pacfanweb]

This is so true.

Yet somehow while the Husband has been at work all day they are expected to come home and jump right into taking care of the kids while the wife takes a break because she has been exhausted by her hard day taking care of the kids.

Yep. But let the wife go back to work, and she'll come home with the same story about being "exhausted".

Don't get me wrong...I've known guys like this, too..but there are a lot more women.

Used to have a coworker...8 of us did the exact same job. He was the master at not taking care of any company business or customers other than his direct ones. Always had a reason why everyone else needed to help customers that didn't need us, specifically. But someone had to take care of them, so it was always someone besides him.

So he did the exact same thing as all the rest of us, but he was always telling the manager how much he busted ass and worked hard and all that. Like he was doing something everyone else wasn't.
I caught on to him early. I was going to be gone and knew one of my customers was coming in to pick up his car. Customer knew exactly what his bill was, everything was perfect. Coworker says "no problem, I'll handle him for you". Next day, coworker says "man, that guy blew me out, he was pissed". I'm puzzled, since there was nothing the customer didn't know.
So I called the guy. I wanted to know what the hell was his problem. Asked how it went, and he says "fine, I just had a question about what they found with xxx". He didn't get upset or anything. Coworker lied, so I'd think he did me a favor by handling the customer.

Soon after, I witnessed him handling a customer for someone else. Same thing...customer asked for clarification on something...was not mad, irate, or anything...nice as can be. Other coworker returned to "man, your customer blew me out".

Dude has some female DNA in him, I think.

 

[SlitheryDee]

The jackass that expects equal credit for locking the doors and turning out the lights as his partner who did the dishes and cleaned up the toys is a fucking idiot. How long does it take to twist a deadbolt or flip a light switch? Hon, why are you complaining? I know that pile of dishes was hard work, but I just turned the lights on and off 147 times while you were doing that. Now why don't you clean up these toys real quick while I go fiddle with this lock for 3 minutes because, damn, this is some tricky shit?

The gender stereotyping on display throughout this thread is just idiotic. The idea that there are "women's jobs" or "men's jobs" around the house is just so bizarre to me. Maybe it's because I was raised in a house with two women who somehow managed to figure out shit like locking doors and turning out lights without a man around. I would never automatically assume that laundry, dishes or tidying up is woman's work because I've been doing all of that for myself since I was a child. But I also don't give people a hard time for complaining about doing those things, because who really gets a kick out of doing chores? There's a reason there's a market for paid housekeepers. All I get from the OP is he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about in regards to raising children, and if he ever complains about anything at his job he's a gigantic hypocrite. Loudmouthed ignorant hypocrites are generally better served by shutting up and listening than doubling down on stupid, but there's no helping some people.

I didn't say that they should expect equal credit, and I was limiting my checklist of things each gender does to stuff that's listed on the poster. The point was that if even in their own self-congratulatory misandrist propaganda they must artificially inflate and outright fabricate most items on a list of chores so minor they don't even register as "work" to most men, how much are they really doing? Knowing that, how repulsive and disingenuous is the urge to post that nonsense for the world to take as your opinion?

You're right, there really is no such thing as "woman's work" anymore anyway. By and large, women seem more than happy to let the men continue doing all the work traditionally set aside for men AND share in the work traditionally set aside for women as well. Being the steadfast and hardworking gender they are, men just put their heads down and plow through it all while counting themselves lucky for the opportunity. Their reward of course is the attitude depicted in that poster, because nothing they do will ever be enough.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Dude has some female DNA in him, I think.

I didn't realize that guys who are lazy opportunistic dicks just have an overactive X chromosome. It makes so much sense!

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I didn't say that they should expect equal credit, and I was limiting my checklist of things each gender does to stuff that's listed on the poster. The point was that if even in their own self-congratulatory misandrist propaganda they must artificially inflate and outright fabricate most items on a list of chores so minor they don't even register as "work" to most men, how much are they really doing? Knowing that, how repulsive and disingenuous is the urge to post that nonsense for the world to take as your opinion?

Yeah, that poster was silly. That's not indicative that men don't do chores, that's indicative of one woman in a bad relationship passively-aggressively lamenting her position instead of talking with her partner and hashing out what a fair distribution of labor in the relationship would look like. That's no better than the OP cherry-picking a couple posts on Facebook to paint an entire gender as entitled and whiny (in the most ironically un-self-aware way imaginable). It's ridiculous to cherry-pick examples like that and use it to stereotype the entirety of male/female relationships; your experience is not universal.

 

[MajinCry]

I didn't realize that guys who are lazy opportunistic dicks just have an overactive X chromosome. It makes so much sense!

It's downright saddening that people like this still exist; I used to think everybody moved on from stupidity such as sexism, racism, elitism, etc.

These guys don't even try to (mis?)use facts, surveys or anything; they just magic up superiority and victim complexes.

 

[MrPickins]

Caring for your kids isn't a job, it's your responsibility.

Actually, it's both a job and a responsibility.

 

[Blue_Max]

Actually, it's both a job and a responsibility.

And anyone who doesn't agree that's it's the "hardest job on the planet" deserves the ridiculing and public shaming he'll get from almost the entire female (and mangina) collective.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Actually, it's both a job and a responsibility.

Yep. But its a lot of fun and has is very intrinsically motivating. Some philosophers think that it's the very basis of human motivation.

 

[brianmanahan]

OH BOY! I worked SOOOO hard this week at work that my boss gave me this ULTRA COOL EXCLUSIVE $10 gift card to a s***ty fast food place. Everyone look at me, I got a $10 gift card! Only the most elite people get this! It's definitely not a cheap gift to give a peon employee the false mental image that you are working hard to continue doing so. Nope nope nope...

How about asking for a fat bonus for year end profits? Ohhhh, you aren't quite up to that status yet? Oh ok.

making fun of people because they don't get bonuses like you?

my SIL made around 10$/hr doing childcare and it sounded so hard, i was exhausted just listening to her talk about it. it involved kids and poop and cleaning up the poop. there is no way i would survive that, and i doubt you would either.

newsflash: the difficulty of a job's day-to-day tasks is not directly proportional with how much the job pays.

 

[MrPickins]

And anyone who doesn't agree that's it's the "hardest job on the planet" deserves the ridiculing and public shaming he'll get from almost the entire female (and mangina) collective.

That's only true in your own head.

You love to play the victim, don't you?

 

[MrPickins]

Yep. But its a lot of fun and has is very intrinsically motivating. Some philosophers think that it's the very basis of human motivation.

It is definitely motivating, but that makes it no less exhausting.

 

[Captante]

And once his SO sees this thread he'll never have to worry about having kids to take care of...

:awe:

OP has a significant other?

I find that difficult to believe.

 

[Blue_Max]

You love to play the victim, don't you?

Nope. No victim here. Projection failed.

Here's a nice article for you instead: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/gloria_steinem_tells_lena_dunham_why_crying_at_work_is_powerful/
Gloria Steinem tells why crying at work is powerful

 

[MrPickins]

Nope. No victim here. Projection failed.

Once again, your lack of self awareness is laughably pathetic.

Here's a nice article for you instead: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/gloria_steinem_tells_lena_dunham_why_crying_at_work_is_powerful/
Gloria Steinem tells why crying at work is powerful

I'm not sure you even understand what that article is about. :hmm:

 

[MajinCry]

Once again, your lack of self awareness is laughably pathetic.

I'm not sure you even understand what that article is about. :hmm:

I considered responding to him, but...Eurgh. It would be like confronting a child.

Ah well, I'll join in.

And anyone who doesn't agree[1] that's it's the "hardest job on the planet"[2] deserves the ridiculing and public shaming [3] he'll get from almost the entire female (and mangina) collective.[4]

Nope. No victim here. Projection failed.

I won't bother with the last part of his latest reply; you already countered that. I'll try and go all lawyer-ish, which might lessen his emotional involvement.

So, we have max:

Defining a group of people, designated as [1].

Presenting something that nobody has said, designated as [2].

Follows [2] by stating actions of a group in response to the denial of [2], designated as [3], which is nulled by [2] being a false premise, as well as [3] not having occurred at all.

Finally claims that there are people out to get [1], as well as making a blanket generalization coupled with a derogatory term, designated as [4].


Yeah, there's definitely a persecution complex going on here; false premises joined by generalizations and an insult.