Why do those of the Jewish faith vote so heavily Democrat?

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The better question, based on that fact, is why people of faith are almost universally lumped in with conservatives/republicans.
 

envy me

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Joe Lieberman is a jewish democrat. Also I beleive he has better ties with Israel and Israeli policies than Bush does, and that is why a majority of the jewish population would support him.


 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
The better question, based on that fact, is why people of faith are almost universally lumped in with conservatives/republicans.

Actually. it is the fundamentalist Christian crowd, not 'people of faith' who are lumped in with conservatives. Not that the Republican party has anything to do with conservatism.
 

sandorski

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Generally speaking, Jews tend to be more Liberal. That may or may not be true everywhere, but in NA it seems to be the case.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
The better question, based on that fact, is why people of faith are almost universally lumped in with conservatives/republicans.

Because they're not smart.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
The better question, based on that fact, is why people of faith are almost universally lumped in with conservatives/republicans.

They really aren't though. However, there is a huge segment of evangelicals that have tied themselves to the Republican party though, but as a whole, people of faith are hardly tied to the Republican party. According to the figures on CNN, they're pretty close together overall.
 

techs

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Its because Jews see themselves as a vulnerable minority. They see the Republican party as the most likely to lean towards discriminating against Jews and excluding them from mainstream America.
In most Jewish peoples minds the holocaust and the 2000 year history of pogroms is still fresh.
Recent Republican policies have hardened Jewish Americans fear. They see a pro-Christian government where religion is once again a criteria for jobs, success, etc.
Democrats have always stood for the average American of every religion and ethnicity. Of course Jews will support the party that supports all Americans, not just the few.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: techs
Its because Jews see themselves as a vulnerable minority. They see the Republican party as the most likely to lean towards discriminating against Jews and excluding them from mainstream America.
In most Jewish peoples minds the holocaust and the 2000 year history of pogroms is still fresh.
Recent Republican policies have hardened Jewish Americans fear. They see a pro-Christian government where religion is once again a criteria for jobs, success, etc.
Democrats have always stood for the average American of every religion and ethnicity. Of course Jews will support the party that supports all Americans, not just the few.
Expanding on this:

Historically, Jews have been victims of discrimination. So Jews see a strong Constitution that protects the civil liberties of minorities against the incursions of oppressive majorities as extremely important. That's basically a liberal position. Conservatives tend to promote free enterprise (at the expense of the individual) rather than civil liberties (at the expensive of free enterprise).
 

daveshel

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Originally posted by: techs
Its because Jews see themselves as a vulnerable minority. They see the Republican party as the most likely to lean towards discriminating against Jews and excluding them from mainstream America.
In most Jewish peoples minds the holocaust and the 2000 year history of pogroms is still fresh.
Recent Republican policies have hardened Jewish Americans fear. They see a pro-Christian government where religion is once again a criteria for jobs, success, etc.
Democrats have always stood for the average American of every religion and ethnicity. Of course Jews will support the party that supports all Americans, not just the few.

Agreed. And to some extent the same is true of other minorities.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: techs
Its because Jews see themselves as a vulnerable minority. They see the Republican party as the most likely to lean towards discriminating against Jews and excluding them from mainstream America.
In most Jewish peoples minds the holocaust and the 2000 year history of pogroms is still fresh.
Recent Republican policies have hardened Jewish Americans fear. They see a pro-Christian government where religion is once again a criteria for jobs, success, etc.
Democrats have always stood for the average American of every religion and ethnicity. Of course Jews will support the party that supports all Americans, not just the few.

That pretty much sums it up.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: shira
Originally posted by: techs
Its because Jews see themselves as a vulnerable minority. They see the Republican party as the most likely to lean towards discriminating against Jews and excluding them from mainstream America.
In most Jewish peoples minds the holocaust and the 2000 year history of pogroms is still fresh.
Recent Republican policies have hardened Jewish Americans fear. They see a pro-Christian government where religion is once again a criteria for jobs, success, etc.
Democrats have always stood for the average American of every religion and ethnicity. Of course Jews will support the party that supports all Americans, not just the few.
Expanding on this:

Historically, Jews have been victims of discrimination. So Jews see a strong Constitution that protects the civil liberties of minorities against the incursions of oppressive majorities as extremely important. That's basically a liberal position. Conservatives tend to promote free enterprise (at the expense of the individual) rather than civil liberties (at the expensive of free enterprise).

How exactly do civil liberties and free enterprise clash?
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Aimster
They are smart

/thread

Then why don't they vote Libertarian?

Because in a 2-party winner-takes-all system that would be equivalent to voting for republicans.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Aimster
They are smart

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Then why don't they vote Libertarian?

Because in a 2-party winner-takes-all system that would be equivalent to voting for republicans.

Right and as a jew i dont like the current 2 party system.
 

fierydemise

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Right and as a jew i dont like the current 2 party system.

As a jew I second that (although I have no idea how being jewish relates to disliking the 2 party system)
 

BlancoNino

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Michael Medved is a very strong conservative jew. He's also one of the smartest men in politics. I have a couple of his books and I listen to his radio show every so often which kills Rush Limbaughs show (I agree a lot with Rush but his show just isn't that good).
 

CQuinn

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Originally posted by: Frackal

How exactly do civil liberties and free enterprise clash?

Bought any music CDs from Sony BMG lately?

Most of the time, the free market economy doesn't impact on civil liberties,
as its only civil concern is that you as a consumer has enough money to
pay for the liberties it offers.

But sometimes the effort to gain control of a market, or to affect outside influences
on the business model, causes companies to ignore or violate other civil liberties
in the pursuit of its own interests/agenda. (To put it nicely).


 

fierydemise

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Michael Medved is a very strong conservative jew. He's also one of the smartest men in politics. I have a couple of his books and I listen to his radio show every so often which kills Rush Limbaughs show (I agree a lot with Rush but his show just isn't that good).

And Jim Wallis is a liberal evangelical, there are exceptions to every rule
 

Dimkaumd

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is charles krauthammer jewish?

I think a lot of jews voted republican this past election, at least a lot more than last time.
 

LumbergTech

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limbaugh is a hypocrite..he needs to realize that people are just human and quit pretending like hes above all this stuff..mr morality..gets caught addicted to something and then can't even admit that maybe people just screw up sometimes and don't deserve to be so severly punished
 
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