Why do vegans gimp themselves?

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MongGrel

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I wouldn't have allowed them to have the kitten back.

And have been tempted to hit em with a baseball bat a few times.
 
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mmntech

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Heard plenty of stories like this over the years. Dogs can eat plant matter, but only in limited quantities. Cats are pure carnivores. Neither animal evolved with the ability to digest and receive nutrients from plant matter. So by feeding them a vegan diet, you're starving it to death. Rather ironic considering the vegan ideology is strictly against animal suffering. Just shows how dumb people can be.

Humans are basically one step up above scavengers on the food chain. We can eat most plants as long as they aren't woody or poisonous, and most meats provided they aren't contaminated. Especially since the invention of cooking, which sterilizes foods and softens tough plants. Which is why we are so successful as a species. We're highly adaptable.

If somebody wants to be a vegan, that's fine. They do have a valid argument in that cruelty in meat and egg production is a problem, and we probably do eat way more meat products than we should/is healthy. However, so many vegans are just so pretentious about it. Like they've touched God or something. Yuckeroo.

Oh, and vegan "cheese" is like eating Elmer's white glue. I tried the vegan pizza at a work function for shits and giggles. Nastiest thing ever.
 

marvdmartian

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Vegans tend to have an overdeveloped sense of protectiveness, particularly toward animals. They figure that if they eat vegan, and can convince others to do the same, they will save the poor farm animals from a gruesome existence.

Um, yeah.....whatever!
 

bunnyfubbles

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I can understand vegetarians, I don't understand vegans. If it;s humanely raised, what is wrong with eggs, fish, and dairy.

If I had to kill my own meat, I'd only eat poultry and eggs, not much different from now, except I get to enjoy the occasional lamb chop and steak. Maybe I'd eat more fish.

yeah, I really don't get why they don't eat fish, fish meat is practically a vegetable
 

Exophase

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I can understand vegetarians, I don't understand vegans. If it;s humanely raised, what is wrong with eggs, fish, and dairy.

A big problem some vegans have is the way the dairy industry and veal industry support each other, ie to keep cows producing milk they constantly impregnate them and take their young for veal.

I've had this discussion with my vegan girlfriend before, if milk came from a family animal that was properly treated if she'd be more comfortable with it and it sounds like she would (I have to imagine it's more like this in say, India)


Not really, cats are obligate carnivores while humans aren't. Responsible/properly informed pet-owners will understand when it's wrong to subject their vegan diet to their pets, I know my girlfriend does.
 

irishScott

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When Sarah Silverman was a little girl the farmer told her to pick a turkey she liked, then he chopped it's head off right in front of her. After she figured out where other meats came from she went full vegetarian.
Paul and Linda McCartney were at a restaurant in a farmers fields enjoying eating some lamb. When they watched the sheep and lambs out the window they had an epiphany about what they were eating and they went veggie.
Vegans have problems finding acceptable food when they travel. Many chefs don't understand that they don't want cheese sauce on their veggies.

So a few spoiled rotten semi-celebrities are too soft to deal with the humane killing of animals for food. That's your argument for veganism? Pretty weak, in every sense of the word.
 

irishScott

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I don't have time to find an online article but egg laying chickens are kept in stacks of very small cages like prisoners packed five to a cage they never go outside they're treated like egg machines.

So buy cage-free eggs. It's usually on the package and is a recognized standard. Granted the hens are still kept in warehouses but they typically have enough room to move around and spread their wings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZ77AxwlFY
 
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RelaxTheMind

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im pescetarian as well as quite a few of my friends (handful of actual vegans). if only i got a dollar for everytime i said i was pesce/vegetarian and get the ignorant response "oh i cant just eat salads". both pesce/vegan and free range diets can actually be relatively cheaper depending on your location and if you have peers that you could group buy with.

note: may or may not have to do with the fact the PETA headquarters is 10 minutes down the street.

the irony is the diet of self-proclaimed carnivore people i know are a lot more gimped than your average vege. ie. the people who only eat plain cheeseburgers, plain pepperoni pizza from only specific pizza spots, burnt well done {insert meat here} etc...
 

mikeymikec

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Paul and Linda McCartney were at a restaurant in a farmers fields enjoying eating some lamb. When they watched the sheep and lambs out the window they had an epiphany about what they were eating and they went veggie.

They'd been eating meat for however many decades and they "had an epiphany"? Apparently people do have this very odd disconnect from the food they're eating. For me, the "epiphany" occurred when I was about 7, eating a chicken breast portion that hadn't been de-boned, turned it over and there's a view of the ribcage from the inside. Gee, let me think, where could this have come from.

I'm not vegetarian. I wouldn't have a problem killing animals for my food if I had to, with the exception of fish I'm not a fan of handling raw fish (but I don't have any problem eating them).

I have a preference for buying meat from sources that say the animals have been kept in more reasonable conditions.
 

Sattern

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I would have no problem limiting myself to meat, but you need the nutrients it gives you.

Imagine life with little to no natural protein, your body will become nimble.
 

poofyhairguy

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I would have no problem limiting myself to meat, but you need the nutrients it gives you.

Imagine life with little to no natural protein, your body will become nimble.

This is not a serious thread, but my vegan wife gets plenty of protein from her jar of Vega Sport Performance.
 

Exophase

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I would have no problem limiting myself to meat, but you need the nutrients it gives you.

Imagine life with little to no natural protein, your body will become nimble.

There are non-animal sources of natural protein (legumes, nuts, seeds, quinoa for example), little to no natural protein is a gross exaggeration. Of course, you have to be conscious in eating the right things.
 

mirageracerx

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ie. the people who only eat plain cheeseburgers, plain pepperoni pizza from only specific pizza spots, burnt well done {insert meat here} etc...
dafuq? while i can understand and disagree with veganism/vegetarianism (for myself), strict carnivore diet? is that even a thing? *mind blown* people be cray cray.
 

smackababy

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I think the real question is how do holier than thou vegan fuckwads come off saying the eating of animals is bad, but plants are okay. Plants are people to! They have feelings, feel pain, and are alive. Eat rocks or dirt you asswipes and stop killing all the plants!
 

NetWareHead

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For years as a child I helped my dad slaughter rabbits. We were not allowed to name them as per dad's orders since they were going to be food. We kept 4 adults. 1 male and 3 females who were the parents. We would place one female at a time with the male and let nature take its course. The resulting babies were eaten after a 2-3 months if I remember correctly when the meat was still tender. For a few bags of rabbit feed (after all of the setup costs) it was a pretty cheap way to get meat on our table. My dad always slaughtered them as humanely as possible. The animals were always stunned with a blow to the back of the head with the blunt end of a cleaver before the throat was cut. Hopefully they wouldn't feel any pain after being knocked out. For the record, I greatly detest the jewish and muslim method of slaughter that involves slaughtering a fully conscious animal with nothing more than a slice to the throat. We used pretty much everything even the blood which we saved and mixed it into the dog's dry food to enrich it. The organs we didnt eat were also dog food. Fur and bones went into a compost pile which became garden fertilizer.
 

OutHouse

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I can understand vegetarians, I don't understand vegans. If it;s humanely raised, what is wrong with eggs, fish, and dairy.

Dont forget honey. Hardcore Vegas who don't eat honey because its a "animal" product are mentally ill.
 

sourceninja

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I like eating rabbits. I think they are tender and tasty. I probably eat rabbit 3-4 times a year.

Recently I saw a rabbit get clipped by a car. I walked over to him and his back was badly broken, but he was alive, trying to drag himself away from me with 1 leg. There was nothing that could be done for the guy. So I killed him as quickly as I could.

I'm not a hunter simply because I am very empathetic to animals. So I got a little misty eyed as I killed him. It was an emotion moment where this poor scared animal could never understand that I was helping him and simply ended his life in pain and fear. Nothing should have to die like that.

I'm still going to eat rabbits.
 

smackababy

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For years as a child I helped my dad slaughter rabbits. We were not allowed to name them as per dad's orders since they were going to be food. We kept 4 adults. 1 male and 3 females who were the parents. We would place one female at a time with the male and let nature take its course. The resulting babies were eaten after a 2-3 months if I remember correctly when the meat was still tender. For a few bags of rabbit feed (after all of the setup costs) it was a pretty cheap way to get meat on our table. My dad always slaughtered them as humanely as possible. The animals were always stunned with a blow to the back of the head with the blunt end of a cleaver before the throat was cut. Hopefully they wouldn't feel any pain after being knocked out. For the record, I greatly detest the jewish and muslim method of slaughter that involves slaughtering a fully conscious animal with nothing more than a slice to the throat. We used pretty much everything even the blood which we saved and mixed it into the dog's dry food to enrich it. The organs we didnt eat were also dog food. Fur and bones went into a compost pile which became garden fertilizer.

I am fairly certain Halal doesn't disallow stunning of an animal pre slaughter, just that it is not killed by a blunt weapon, but rather killed via exsanguination from the throat. As, blood is forbidden to be consumed (and in the 2nd century would be highly likely to unsanitary, same with pig meat).
 
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