On a simple end note, I would say the majority of these so-called hunters kill animals for entertainment.
I would say you're completely wrong.
I don't have any facts to back that up...but I'd say that makes us even.
Well.... since nobody in the U.S., at least, needs to kill for food, then it must be something else, right? Even if you eat what you take, and I bet the majority do, it's not a matter of need. Personally, as long as the animal is not killed _simply_ for sport, I'm ok with it.
As for gators, OP does know, I assume, that they occasionally kill people? Sometimes their numbers need to be thinned just from a management perspective, which is why there is a legal season on them.
They are also very delicious, so hunting for meat isn't out of the question. Plus they are used for all sorts of other things
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's probably rooted in truth.
I would like to go hunting sometime, but I'd like it to be a persistence hunt where I run something down over 4 hours and then kill it with a knife. It'd be more about appreciating the difficulty and the taking of a life for sustenance than pleasure or to go kill something.
I also have a pie-in-the-sky idea that everyone should have to kill one of whatever animal they want to eat. Want to eat beef? Gotta bleed out a steer and watch it die. I think people would eat less meat (but still enough) and not waste that last bit of hamburger.
There is little skill or danger in modern hunting. All safe n cozy in their camo gear, behind a rifle. That's not hunting like a predator, that's just waiting for their pussy to get wet so they can snack on jerky to feed their fat face. Killing animals as a need for survival like any other predator is hunting. What they do today is just personal entertainment, bragging rights and ways to make them more obese.
Don't we realize that the difference between killing a deer and a human isn't that great?
Well.... since nobody in the U.S., at least, needs to kill for food, then it must be something else, right? Even if you eat what you take, and I bet the majority do, it's not a matter of need. Personally, as long as the animal is not killed _simply_ for sport, I'm ok with it.
As for gators, OP does know, I assume, that they occasionally kill people? Sometimes their numbers need to be thinned just from a management perspective, which is why there is a legal season on them.
They definitely are. I'm not sure, in general, that they are more delicious than a 14-ounce ribeye from Costco, though. I eat venison a couple of times a year, and it isn't generally available in stores, so if you want to eat it and you don't know a hunter with some to spare, what are you going to do? But I can't pretend I _need_ venison. I _want_ venison. Economists will say there's a difference.
I knows lots of hunters and not a single one hunt (or fish for that matter) that don't eat what they kill. I've had deer jerky, deer-b-que, sloppy doe's, deer sausage, deer steaks, deer burgers and more....all from the hunters at work. Don't know anyone that hunts simply for the 'sport' of it. Not saying that 'sport' isn't a part of what they are doing, it's not the only part.
Nobody needs to kill for food, yet you eat ribeye's? Surely you don't think that those animals fling themselves off cliffs so that our grocery stores may be stocked.
Why do animals murder other animals? Why do animals murder plants?
Don't say for eating, because that's not the case. Hell, most plant matter animals eat isn't even used, and the common household cat is an absolute sociopath.
Also, murder doesn't count if the murdered is homeless.
How about this you go put your arm in an alligator's mouth and tell me how innocent he is you freaking moron.
People kill animals, because people are animals and guess what animals kill each other.
as much as people would like to think otherwise we're still the exact same cavemen as our forefathers. Of course hunters (primarily men) enjoy hunting, it's sort of what we were bred to do...
There is little skill or danger in modern hunting. All safe n cozy in their camo gear, behind a rifle. That's not hunting like a predator, that's just waiting for their pussy to get wet so they can snack on jerky to feed their fat face. Killing animals as a need for survival like any other predator is hunting. What they do today is just personal entertainment, bragging rights and ways to make them more obese.
Maybe they were talking about the heart exploding. I've also seen a large caliber round leave an awfully large hole on the backside of a dear before. It wasn't pretty. The good news was the dear probably didn't suffer long.Ok, I don't know of anything short of a battleship cannon that could literally explode a deer. I'm calling BS on that. Large caliber rounds could certainly rip legs off, but it's not going to cause a deer to "explode".
Ok, I don't know of anything short of a battleship cannon that could literally explode a deer. I'm calling BS on that. Large caliber rounds could certainly rip legs off, but it's not going to cause a deer to "explode".
As for reasons, like others have said, an overwhelming majority of hunters (deer in particular) *are* actually eating (or donating the meat) the animal. They aren't head hunting, cutting off a massive set of horns and tossing a carcass in the woods. They do actually process the meat and do something useful with it.
Where I live herd management is huge. Deer populations are wildly out of control. We've killed off or shoo'ed away all natural predators and now they just breed without abandon and terrible diseases start cropping up. Chronic wasting disease..AKA mad cow disease is one such disease that has wrecked havoc on deer. To the point where state conservation departments (Wisconsin is a an example) have issued kill on site orders for deer in afflicted areas. Humans (and not just the hunting ones) have completely screwed up the food chain of many animals and hunting is one of the primary ways to keep those in check.
people who really think like this terrify me.