Why do we want to import more poverty in the US when we have enough already?

[Pipeline 1010]

At least marijuana will probably be recreationally legal in all but maybe a dozen backasswards red states inside 10 years.

Possibly the sole upside of letting pharma companies hook a ton of white people on pills who then turn to heroin is some realignment in America's mentality on drugs and the options for dealing with addiction.

Portugal got it right. Addiction is a medical issue with medical solutions. America has decided that it is a criminal solution and we can just prison rape the addict enough, he will choose not to be an addict. Except statistics, logic, reason, and results prove this is not true.

 

[brycejones]

Last time I checked, we weren't part of Germany or ruled by them or shared the same geographic location.

But they were great role models. The American right loves the mid to late 30s Germany. The trains ran on time and people especially minorities knew their place.

 

[K1052]

Portugal got it right. Addiction is a medical issue with medical solutions. America has decided that it is a criminal solution and we can just prison rape the addict enough, he will choose not to be an addict. Except statistics, logic, reason, and results prove this is not true.

IIRC a slim majority of Americans polled have started to consider drug addiction to be a health issue/disease instead of, solely, a crime issue. This is a fairly substantial change.

 

[blackangst1]

Last time I checked, we weren't part of Germany or ruled by them or shared the same geographic location.

That whooshing sound is the point flying over your head

 

[blackangst1]

Thanks! I missed a few. We could add police unions, judges, and social workers. None of this would even be an issue if we just did the right thing. Too many people are invested in ensuring this will never happen.

Unfortunately "the right thing" is extremely subjective.

 

[Ns1]

I think you need to widen your view on this. Germany disagrees strongly on your stance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8c46aa8c3a4_story.html?utm_term=.25f11a475fde

this is the same kind of stuff that's said after every wave of immigration. The 2 that immediately come to mind are fear of Chinese and fear of Vietnamese. How are those immigrant groups doing today, decades later?

Let's be real here, the only people who should've been afraid of immigrants were the Native Americans.

 

[blackangst1]

"why import poverty"

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It continues to be my experience that FOB immigrants work much harder for a lot less money than chain immigrants. They also don't whine nearly as much. Chain immigrants, also known as Americans, are spoiled brats when it comes to working. Over 70% of Americans are fat-asses who won't survive 10 minutes humping bales of whatever in the 100 degree heat. We're lazy as shit too, wanting breaks and 40 hour weeks, etc. Plus we're all either elites who pay someone to hold our penis while we pee or we are trailer trash on welfare and meth who would rather drag blacks behind our trucks and blame immigrants for our own fat lazy crack addicted lives.

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Thats because most Americans feel "they deserve theirs" theyre owed.

 

[blackangst1]

this is the same kind of stuff that's said after every wave of immigration. The 2 that immediately come to mind are fear of Chinese and fear of Vietnamese. How are those immigrant groups doing today, decades later?

Let's be real here, the only people who should've been afraid of immigrants were the native americans.

Last I checked, we arent talking about immigration. We're talking about ILLEGAL immigration. Theres a huge difference.

 

[Ns1]

Last I checked, we arent talking about immigration. We're talking about ILLEGAL immigration. Theres a huge difference.

the OP does not make that distinction.

 

[jackstar7]

Last I checked, we arent talking about immigration. We're talking about ILLEGAL immigration. Theres a huge difference.

Incorrect!

 

[blackangst1]

the OP does not make that distinction.

Fair enough.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think you need to widen your view on this. Germany disagrees strongly on your stance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8c46aa8c3a4_story.html?utm_term=.25f11a475fde

Europe's problems are much greater than our own simply because of geography & the sheer number of people trying to escape conflict zones.

 

[nOOky]

"why import poverty"

Well I am a red white and blue American. And as a flag waving patriot it's my duty to point out to agitators and traitors alike that to be an American means to embrace immigrants. "Give us your poor, your weak, your possessed by demons" etc. It's who we are. To do otherwise would literally be un-American.

Besides that...

It continues to be my experience that FOB immigrants work much harder for a lot less money than chain immigrants. They also don't whine nearly as much. Chain immigrants, also known as Americans, are spoiled brats when it comes to working. Over 70% of Americans are fat-asses who won't survive 10 minutes humping bales of whatever in the 100 degree heat. We're lazy as shit too, wanting breaks and 40 hour weeks, etc. Plus we're all either elites who pay someone to hold our penis while we pee or we are trailer trash on welfare and meth who would rather drag blacks behind our trucks and blame immigrants for our own fat lazy crack addicted lives.

Donald Trump agrees with me by the way...

Either way, as an American, I sure as hell am not busting my ass out in a field all day picking food or whatever disgusting crap they have to put up with. I am BEGGING somebody, anybody, willing to do that job to PLEASE COME TO AMERICA. Go clean my toilet. I'll stick to my cushy office job thank you. I would MUCH rather have folks who desire to escape whatever shit-hole country as your god says get a chance to pay their dues and become an American just like the rest of us or our ancestors did.

And then there's the money. If I can make a buck no matter how, that's what makes America great. Getting around the system just means I'm smart.

Yea, so why does Trump make immigration an issue and want to end the cheap labor supply? Especially when he uses it extensively himself to make more money and not have to pay American workers a fair wage?

 

[blackangst1]

Europe's problems are much greater than our own simply because of geography & the sheer number of people trying to escape conflict zones.

OK? Percentage-wise, EU is still worse than us. Whats your solution? Let em all in until it gets to EU's levels?

Perhaps theres a lesson to be learned here...

 

[greatnoob]

OK? Percentage-wise, EU is still worse than us. Whats your solution? Let em all in until it gets to EU's levels?

Did he say that? No.

Perhaps theres a lesson to be learned here...

Yes and the lesson is learn to read instead of attacking a strawman

 

[blackangst1]

Did he say that? No.

When I did I say he DID say that?

Yes and the lesson is learn to read instead of attacking a strawman

AGREE!!!

 

[Jaskalas]

Name a single period in our history where immigration hurt this country.

A brick wall is ahead of you. Name a single time where accelerating towards it has harmed you.

 

[Phenzyn]

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that the war on drugs creates a massive, lucrative black market for drug cartels in Central and South America. This leads to massive political corruption, violence, and poverty in those nations. We could try this one weird trick and end the war on drugs. That would probably make life better for literally everyone except for prison guard unions.

 

[Jhhnn]

OK? Percentage-wise, EU is still worse than us. Whats your solution? Let em all in until it gets to EU's levels?

Perhaps theres a lesson to be learned here...

I'm sure that criminal prosecutions & deliberate cruelty aren't the answer. Whether we let them stay or not we need to eliminate this huge backlog of cases.

 

[Phenzyn]

The wealthy pay enough taxes and dont need to pay more because people dont want to work.

Oh, I get it now. Your goal each day, is to see if you can "one up" your dumbest post from the previous day. I totally get your shtick now. Nice

We should all play a game guys.

Which of the two is the dumbest Incorruptible post

A) Above

or

B) If the victim was any other religion they would have arrested the suspect and laid hate crime charges but apparently Christians dont matter.

He also hates apostrophes

 

[alcoholbob]

If there are college grads working at McDonalds, theyve got to be lazy. We are in a huge labor shortage right now. I know in my industry, I could have my pick of almost anywhere in the country for a well paying job.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...-point/ar-AAzCPO1?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=mailsignout

Part of that "labor shortage" is employers becoming addicted to H1Bs and no longer interested in paying the market rate for labor, thus the massive amount of underemployed people and people out of the workforce.

 

[Jhhnn]

A brick wall is ahead of you. Name a single time where accelerating towards it has harmed you.

Nativists talked the same shit about every immigrant group that ever entered this country. We swallowed them right up, made them us.

 

[blackangst1]

Part of that "labor shortage" is employers becoming addicted to H1Bs and no longer interesting in paying the market rate for labor, thus the massive amount of underemployed people and people out of the workforce.

In most facets of IT, youre incorrect.

 

[Phenzyn]

"why import poverty"

Well I am a red white and blue American. And as a flag waving patriot it's my duty to point out to agitators and traitors alike that to be an American means to embrace immigrants. "Give us your poor, your weak, your possessed by demons" etc. It's who we are. To do otherwise would literally be un-American.

Besides that...

It continues to be my experience that FOB immigrants work much harder for a lot less money than chain immigrants. They also don't whine nearly as much. Chain immigrants, also known as Americans, are spoiled brats when it comes to working. Over 70% of Americans are fat-asses who won't survive 10 minutes humping bales of whatever in the 100 degree heat. We're lazy as shit too, wanting breaks and 40 hour weeks, etc. Plus we're all either elites who pay someone to hold our penis while we pee or we are trailer trash on welfare and meth who would rather drag blacks behind our trucks and blame immigrants for our own fat lazy crack addicted lives.

Donald Trump agrees with me by the way...

Either way, as an American, I sure as hell am not busting my ass out in a field all day picking food or whatever disgusting crap they have to put up with. I am BEGGING somebody, anybody, willing to do that job to PLEASE COME TO AMERICA. Go clean my toilet. I'll stick to my cushy office job thank you. I would MUCH rather have folks who desire to escape whatever shit-hole country as your god says get a chance to pay their dues and become an American just like the rest of us or our ancestors did.

And then there's the money. If I can make a buck no matter how, that's what makes America great. Getting around the system just means I'm smart.

I love most of your post BTW

Are you the rare, and almost never seen conservative with a brain?

But one part I can really not agree with you:

We're lazy as shit too, wanting breaks and 40 hour weeks, etc.

Are you just being facetiousness here? Because I often hear this nonsense, Americans are lazy, when we are working more hours then pretty much everyone else in the 1st world.

A lot of jobs here don't even start with vacation, earning 2 weeks after a couple years and often only having 2 weeks vacation for many more years. To say nothing of sick leave or anything else.

Meanwhile, any friend I have (mostly internet friends, true) across Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada think we work WAY TOO hard. Most Europeans, especially, have 6 weeks or more vacation and other benefits that we could only dream of having. While also having more breaks, and generally just working fewer hours then we do.

 

[greatnoob]

When I did I say he DID say that?

Ah, you haven’t taken my advice, reread what I posted. You mean the strawman you made? Here you go buddy:

Whats your solution? Let em all in until it gets to EU's levels?

Was that his solution or was that the strawman you proposed for him? Idiot.