I can point to many people who have hit brick walls that were hurt, can you point to anytime immigration has hurt us? Is there something special about this latest immigration debate that's different from other times?
A brick wall is ahead of you. Name a single time where accelerating towards it has harmed you.
Oh, I get it now. Your goal each day, is to see if you can "one up" your dumbest post from the previous day. I totally get your shtick now. Nice
We should all play a game guys.
Which of the two is the dumbest Incorruptible post
A) Above
or
B) If the victim was any other religion they would have arrested the suspect and laid hate crime charges but apparently Christians dont matter.
He also hates apostrophes
Unfortunately "the right thing" is extremely subjective.
Everyone knows this huh?Bringing them will only make things worse for people in the US. They will undercut wages and cause even more problems for people struggling with work. People are idiots and want to bring them in since they want to be generous with other peoples money.
According to the responses, the bottom line is.
White people are lazy and we need to bring in poor unwashed masses from other countries so they can do the work lazy white people do not want to do.
I need clarification what does white people mean, and why are white people so lazy that we need to bring millions of impoverished people to be put to work.
Er, I guess I'm getting him confused with someone else, but I could swear the OP was from Canada. I don't ever recall them posting in such a manner either, so did their account get hijacked or something?
Because we have jobs that aren't being done? I mean, do you really struggle with understanding this that badly? You seem to be really trying to play obtuse, but I know you're not this fucking stupid.
This coupled with TallBill really makes me wonder if there wasn't a breach in the forums or something.
lazy poor whites are more afraid of immigrant mentality then the poverty they bring.
Now they are lazy poor whites because they refuse to work for below living wages, no benefits, poor working conditions, emergency room medical care, never mind immigrants mostly illegal were used historically to punish higher paid blacks who would speak out about employers injustices and help undermine unions that got too uppity,
Rich white liberals have sure brainwashed you fools with their identity politics so they can enjoy the upward movement of wealth that exploited brown immigrants bring them while claiming they are for unions, living wages, healthcare as a right, benefits, etc.,
because if a white or black American refuses to work under the conditions exploited illegals do they cut into the 1% profits so they label them as lazy and all you so called liberals join in not realizing you are cutting of your nose to spite your face so you can appear politically correct for your team.
Now they are lazy poor whites because they refuse to work for below living wages, no benefits, poor working conditions, emergency room medical care, never mind immigrants mostly illegal were used historically to punish higher paid blacks who would speak out about employers injustices and help undermine unions that got too uppity,
Rich white liberals have sure brainwashed you fools with their identity politics so they can enjoy the upward movement of wealth that exploited brown immigrants bring them while claiming they are for unions, living wages, healthcare as a right, benefits, etc.,
because if a white or black American refuses to work under the conditions exploited illegals do they cut into the 1% profits so they label them as lazy and all you so called liberals join in not realizing you are cutting of your nose to spite your face so you can appear politically correct for your team.
Those Americans once had strong work ethics and middle class paying jobs. But then we outsourced all of their jobs without a plan to retrain them, while simultaneously importing a huge wave of undocumented slave labor willing to work below minimum wage without any of the labor protections the middle class fought so hard to attain.A: Because poor people coming from outside of the US are hungry AF. Hungry AF people bust their asses off. People that bust their asses off pay taxes. 40 years and 4 generations later, you have a shitload of immigrant families with high paying jobs paying taxes while slacker ass Americans get welfare checks and complain about immigrants taking their jobs on /r/politics
Those Americans once had strong work ethics and middle class paying jobs. But then we outsourced all of their jobs without a plan to retrain them, while simultaneously importing a huge wave of undocumented slave labor willing to work below minimum wage without any of the labor protections the middle class fought so hard to attain.
So yes, 40 years later, the American middle class is angry and that is how you get a candidate like Trump.
What I always find odd about restrictionist immigration attitudes is that they generally seem to agree that past waves of immigration (Ellis Island, all that) is a big part of what made America into the great place it is today but for some reason current immigration will make it worse.
I wonder if they realize that for all the prior ‘good’ waves of immigration there were contemporaneous people making almost identical claims to what they are saying now.
It's not really so hard to understand. Those previous immigrations were mostly white people. Irish, Italian, German, etc.What I always find odd about restrictionist immigration attitudes is that they generally seem to agree that past waves of immigration (Ellis Island, all that) is a big part of what made America into the great place it is today but for some reason current immigration will make it worse.
I wonder if they realize that for all the prior ‘good’ waves of immigration there were contemporaneous people making almost identical claims to what they are saying now.
Did we run out of poor people who struggle to survive? Why do we want to open the floodgates and bring in millions more who will not be able to find stable good paying jobs with benefits?
What exactly is the gameplan? I have not heard anyone explain why we want to increase our population in this country when our economy cannot support a big influx of people.
You have college grads flipping burgers and making coffee because they cannot find good jobs, you have homeless camps in several of our large cities already.
Maybe start with fixing the problems affecting American citizens first before importing the rest of the world problem?
They do realize it. It’s because Democrats always make it about race, when its far more complex than that.I wonder if they realize that for all the prior ‘good’ waves of immigration there were contemporaneous people making almost identical claims to what they are saying now.
It does add up. The rural red state areas were going to Trump simply by merit of the fact that he ran as a Republican, which is a totally seperate conversation.If this is truly about economic anxiety and not...let’s just say... something else, then why is it that the areas that are most against immigration are generally the ones with the fewest immigrants? When you look at immigration populations in the US they are in NYC, Los Angeles, places like that. Shouldn’t they be most at risk from immigrants depressing wages and therefore most against it? Instead those areas are among the most supportive of immigration. Instead you have people in Kansas and Missouri, those with very low immigration populations leading the charge against it.
To me the economics argument doesn’t add up.
It does add up. The rural red state areas were going to Trump simply by merit of the fact that he ran as a Republican, which is a totally seperate conversation.
I am talking about the blue dog rust belt states that Clinton lost to Trump...places like Pennsylvania and Florida that contain the remnants of those prior immigration waves or retirees with links to it.
I knew Clinton was in trouble the moment I started seeing more and more tradespeople with Trump stickers on their trucks.
Its the economy stupid.
They may not have high proportions of current immigrants, but make no mistake that those communities have very strong ties to prior immigration waves and therefore very strong opinions on the decline of the middle class and labor as it relates to immigration.The areas that voted for Trump in Pennsylvania and Florida do not have high proportions of immigrants; the correlation between immigrant levels and Trump voters is strongly negative.
Did we run out of poor people who struggle to survive? Why do we want to open the floodgates and bring in millions more who will not be able to find stable good paying jobs with benefits?
What exactly is the gameplan? I have not heard anyone explain why we want to increase our population in this country when our economy cannot support a big influx of people.
You have college grads flipping burgers and making coffee because they cannot find good jobs, you have homeless camps in several of our large cities already.
Maybe start with fixing the problems affecting American citizens first before importing the rest of the world problem?
FYGM