as stated before, replying to OP is not going to get you anywhere... he's presently submerged in his own vomit, and won't hear you. rewind to two days ago, you'll have a better chance at a reply from him.
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
THe Jews turn to GOd.DO you th8in kthey are weak?
collectively they have endured the worst treatment a people could ever endure. enslavement by the egyptians, not having a jhomeland, mass extinction by hitler, being surrounded by countries who hate them simply because they are jewish, suicide bombings, attacks, wars, injustice, prejudice, and hatred by the world.
and they are still around
i could hardly classify them as weak people.
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
THe Jews turn to GOd.DO you th8in kthey are weak?
collectively they have endured the worst treatment a people could ever endure. enslavement by the egyptians, not having a jhomeland, mass extinction by hitler, being surrounded by countries who hate them simply because they are jewish, suicide bombings, attacks, wars, injustice, prejudice, and hatred by the world.
and they are still around
i could hardly classify them as weak people.
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Something like YWHW. But it's unspeakable IIRC.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Why do weak people always turn to God?
God is what he is. Just like human is what you and I are. And dog is what my pet Pal is. It's not a title. And what did the patriarchs call him? Not Jehovah... And why make such a big deal out of it? And why is calling him God bad? My children call me dad, daddy, father, pops, etc... That is the proper way for them to address me. See?Originally posted by: rasholianmon
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Something like YWHW. But it's unspeakable IIRC.
The rendering of that name in English language is 'Jehovah'. It means "He Causes to Become", which is appropriate for the Creator of all heavens and Earth and all life. It's a pleasant thing to call God by name, b/c it means that you build a close, personal relationship with him. Did you know that "god" is a title, like "Dr." or "Mr."??
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: CheapArse
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: MySoS
Really god is a bunch of crap. There is no god, and people need to wake up and see that.
must resist calling you an idiot.....
Then you're no better than MichaelD himself...
why is that? I'm an idiot for calling someone else an idiot who makes a very strong claim as if it's fact without any sort of reasoning behind it? oh yes..i see the logic here....
OOOOOOH, no....we're NOT getting into that whole BULLSSHIT trap you God FreakieeDeekees love to do. "Prove that God doesn't exist." Then you start quoting passeges from the bible, matching them up, mathematically with Easter Island, Stonehenge and Madonnas' tattoos. :roll:
I DON'T believe. Period. You can wave John 1.34.23..343.232.1a in my face all day...all it's gonna do it provide a breeze to cool me off.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
why? will desperation create fact? oh i see,... if you want to believe something, it becomes true think before you say something stupid.
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
why? will desperation create fact? oh i see,... if you want to believe something, it becomes true think before you say something stupid.
you have not insulted me, only simply further proved my point and strengthened my resolve to pray for the rest of the world and its lost inhabitants.
what great cause do you believe in? WHAT does it do FOR YOU?
your life is empty. and it will always be empty for as long as you dont believe in the grace of God. HE DIED FOR YOU.
dont confuse happpy with empty, you can be happy as a clam but your life is still empty.
Originally posted by: Megatomic
God is what he is. Just like human is what you and I are. And dog is what my pet Pal is. It's not a title. And what did the patriarchs call him? Not Jehovah... And why make such a big deal out of it? And why is calling him God bad? My children call me dad, daddy, father, pops, etc... That is the proper way for them to address me. See?Originally posted by: rasholianmon
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Something like YWHW. But it's unspeakable IIRC.
The rendering of that name in English language is 'Jehovah'. It means "He Causes to Become", which is appropriate for the Creator of all heavens and Earth and all life. It's a pleasant thing to call God by name, b/c it means that you build a close, personal relationship with him. Did you know that "god" is a title, like "Dr." or "Mr."??
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
why? will desperation create fact? oh i see,... if you want to believe something, it becomes true think before you say something stupid.
you have not insulted me, only simply further proved my point and strengthened my resolve to pray for the rest of the world and its lost inhabitants.
what great cause do you believe in? WHAT does it do FOR YOU?
your life is empty. and it will always be empty for as long as you dont believe in the grace of God. HE DIED FOR YOU.
dont confuse happpy with empty, you can be happy as a clam but your life is still empty.
God can die?
Originally posted by: rasholianmon
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
why? will desperation create fact? oh i see,... if you want to believe something, it becomes true think before you say something stupid.
you have not insulted me, only simply further proved my point and strengthened my resolve to pray for the rest of the world and its lost inhabitants.
what great cause do you believe in? WHAT does it do FOR YOU?
your life is empty. and it will always be empty for as long as you dont believe in the grace of God. HE DIED FOR YOU.
dont confuse happpy with empty, you can be happy as a clam but your life is still empty.
God can die?
he's confused, man. You can see he's equating Jehovah God with his son, Jesus Christ. part of that Trinity doctrine that is falsely taught and is not Bible-based. it's sad how paganism has ruined people's perceptions of what true Christianity is.
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its so sad that some people are sooo ignorant.
when you turn 65 and suddenly realize that you only have a few years left and you are going to DIE maybe then you might see the truth.
why? will desperation create fact? oh i see,... if you want to believe something, it becomes true think before you say something stupid.
you have not insulted me, only simply further proved my point and strengthened my resolve to pray for the rest of the world and its lost inhabitants.
what great cause do you believe in? WHAT does it do FOR YOU?
your life is empty. and it will always be empty for as long as you dont believe in the grace of God. HE DIED FOR YOU.
dont confuse happpy with empty, you can be happy as a clam but your life is still empty.
Originally posted by: kogase
Here's what I'm wondering. Jesus probably made it to Heaven, right? I mean, even if he sinned a great deal, he was God's son, so he probably got a "get into Heaven free" card or something. But Jesus didn't even sin (much). So is his death a great tragedy?
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Doesn't anyone have any backbone anymore? It just seems that when faced with a problem; rent is due, drug addiction, marital problems...many people turn to "God" to help them solve all their problems.
Why doesn't the average Joe see that "God" is just an imaginary CRUTCH? If you want to quit drinking, only YOU CAN MAKE YOU QUIT DRINKING. If you want to stop beating your dog, ONLY YOU CAN MAKE YOU STOP BEATING THE DOG.
God won't save your marriage, pay the bills or wash your car. God also WILL NOT "give you the strength" to do any of the above.
If you're a weak person, admit you're weak and learn to be strong on your own. Leave The Good Book where it belongs; gathering dust in a seedy motel nightstand drawer.
Originally posted by: Megatomic
What I want to know is why are "men" today so afraid of and negative towards God?
Actually they have hated "gods" that weren't the one(s) they themselves venerated. There's a big difference.Originally posted by: Rayden
Originally posted by: Megatomic
What I want to know is why are "men" today so afraid of and negative towards God?
This isn't a recent occurance. Men have always hated God.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you arrogant pos. many people died for me, like those who fought in ww2 for isntance. i'm sure many of my ancestors fought and died for me too. it doesn't automatically make it a reason for worshiping them as something other than the examples of nobility and human effort.
as for your cookie cutter beliefs, sure you have a package of beliefs that you can partake in.. an easy lazy way out basically. you don't really have to think about what you have to believe in. your god could say that murder was good and you'd be dandy with that. your belief is based on old texts someone scribbled down long ago, and thats really all it comes down to.
and you know who's life is empty? probably yours. unable to cope with the real you have to turn to fantasy. thats pretty much what it comes down to.
noone died for you in world war 2 or any other war for that matter, i cant even believe you think that you are so incredibly stupid im embarrased for you.
You are telling me that some guy that died over in a trench in Bastogne knew who you were (before you even existed) and actually WILLINGLY got himself killed for you as an individual?! THose guys didnt even want to be there, they were drafted GENIUS. Jesus, had many oppurtunities to escape death and run away, but he turned himself over because he loves everyone in the world, even the people who werent created yet. he KNOWS you, not just knows of you, and he LOVES you that is why he died for you so that you would not have to go to hell, because in reality that is what we all deserve.
Please dont tell me you actually think that, then maybe i could gain .000000000001% respect for you or anything that comes out of your mouth.
EDUCATE YOURSELF, then come back and you can talk then
Originally posted by: rasholianmon
Originally posted by: kogase
Here's what I'm wondering. Jesus probably made it to Heaven, right? I mean, even if he sinned a great deal, he was God's son, so he probably got a "get into Heaven free" card or something. But Jesus didn't even sin (much). So is his death a great tragedy?
Jesus did ascend to heaven in spirit form, yes... he resides there now and was made king of the heavens and is waiting until the time of the end to return to wipe out the wicked at Armageddon in his father's name.
Jesus was a human, but never sinned. He was a spirit creature that descended to Earth and born inside of the virgin Mary. Jesus Christ is the only other perfect human creature (sinless) after Adam and Eve, who were at one point perfect, but lost that status when they sinned (and were sentenced to suffering, sickness, and death for them and all their forebears-- all mankind).
Jesus' death is a great tragedy in the eyes of his followers at the time, and also in the eyes of many today. But it is also a fulfillment of prophecy. Jesus came to Earth knowing he would die, in fact he came to Earth just for that purpose. A perfect life for a perfect life. Since Adam and Eve - perfect human creatures, sinned against God, Jesus offered his perfect life in human form to balance the scales and make a provision for humans to gain God's favor again. Jesus has an intense love for humans, considering he was at the right hand of God his father since creation and helped to create much of everything alongside Jehovah. So as much of a tragedy the physical death is, it's also a great joy to know that he did it for humans in order that everyone exercising faith in his sacrifice will enjoy everlasting life in a peaceful new paradise Earth. (lookup - John 3:16, John 17:3)
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Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you arrogant pos. many people died for me, like those who fought in ww2 for isntance. i'm sure many of my ancestors fought and died for me too. it doesn't automatically make it a reason for worshiping them as something other than the examples of nobility and human effort.
as for your cookie cutter beliefs, sure you have a package of beliefs that you can partake in.. an easy lazy way out basically. you don't really have to think about what you have to believe in. your god could say that murder was good and you'd be dandy with that. your belief is based on old texts someone scribbled down long ago, and thats really all it comes down to.
and you know who's life is empty? probably yours. unable to cope with the real you have to turn to fantasy. thats pretty much what it comes down to.
noone died for you in world war 2 or any other war for that matter, i cant even believe you think that you are so incredibly stupid im embarrased for you.
You are telling me that some guy that died over in a trench in Bastogne knew who you were (before you even existed) and actually WILLINGLY got himself killed for you as an individual?! THose guys didnt even want to be there, they were drafted GENIUS. Jesus, had many oppurtunities to escape death and run away, but he turned himself over because he loves everyone in the world, even the people who werent created yet. he KNOWS you, not just knows of you, and he LOVES you that is why he died for you so that you would not have to go to hell, because in reality that is what we all deserve.
Please dont tell me you actually think that, then maybe i could gain .000000000001% respect for you or anything that comes out of your mouth.
EDUCATE YOURSELF, then come back and you can talk then
you see, thats the problem with nitwits like you. you denigrate the noble actions of REAL people so you can believe in your fantasy leader. look how many other "prophets" started other religions, yet you only believe the bs from your one, not for any good reason either, just arbitrary bs. probably because you were born into it, an accident of birth. as for willingly getting killed? jesus pissed off some people and thats what got him killed. he didn't willingly hang himself or anything, he was a victim of circumstance like many others. so shut it with the bs about him dying for you. no decent god would work that way. you need to get your head out of your ass.. really.
:heart:Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Personally, I am not a practicing anything, but still have more decorum than to try to belittle anyone who has a respect or a faith in anything...