Orignal Earl
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Your daughter looking for a referral bonus?
I don't think TH could keep up or get along with her crew.
Your daughter looking for a referral bonus?
(1) Google is not a source
(2) Those articles are not about reporting to the police
(3) The 1 in 5 is not from the DOJ. It comes from the first source on page 6.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf
That is the actual source. Note on the first page
We believe that the most effective - the primary - way to prevent sexual violence is to use the criminal justice system to take more rapists off the streets.
You still unemployed?
1) Google and other web search engines are used to find sources. Duh. I told you to look up the recent articles that were posted and you failed to do so using something like Google.
2) For number 2, yes they are.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/23/campus-sexual-assault-surveys_n_3968725.html
Here is a link to the report of recommended ways to prevent sexual abuse on college campuses.
https://rainn.org/images/03-2014/WH-Task-Force-RAINN-Recommendations.pdf
Here is the quote except from that government recommended list.
There is a further list of recommendations which include bystander intervention and awareness training. Scenario training and just better education about what a sexual assault is or is not. Then on top of that is better reporting structures and reporting encouragement.
3) The 1 in 5 was based off surveys and cross referenced to police reports and other sources.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-percent-women-sexually-assaulted-they-gradu/
It is an estimation though like any other of these reported statistics. Much of that estimation is based upon other surveys dealing with how people define sexual assault rightly or wrongly. This is because many of those assaulted, like you, don't seem to think that they were assaulted when they were drunk and got stupid enough to go up to visit some random guys bedroom during a party. They were too blasted out of their mind to give legal consent, but didn't realize it. That is still considered sexual assault and rape. Also sexual assaults tend to be an under reported crime because of this.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/pages/rape-notification.aspx
As most people who are victims of sexual assault feel way too ashamed of the crime to report it. It is a crime unlike most others in our society because of how it affects the psychological stability of the victim. As follow ups have shown in other studies.
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
Much of the problem is date rape drugs like GHB. It makes the person basically super drunk and destroys a persons ability to make any type of judgement related to anything. It is also fast acting and doesn't stay long in a person's system. Meaning unless a person is tested for the presence of most date rape drugs in the first 24 hours it tends to get flushed out of the body. It also tends to affect short term memory during that time frame and they aren't aware they were assaulted until much later.
At which point the person that was sexually assaulted only thinks they were stupid in getting too "drunk" when it was anything but being drunk.
And if the guy is also too blasted out of his mind to give legal consent?
If both are too drunk then it is not a crime if they both end up together in the sack. That is not the usual case though. Again outliers will exist but the point of suggestions is to treat the majority of problem cases occurring. Stop with strawman arguments.
Right now the problem exists in that there are too many unreported sexual assaults, that are real sexual assaults, on college campuses. Many of those that do get reported are rarely dealt with at all as they do not proceed to go to any judicial system beyond an arbitrary campus administrator.
So you think that most men that have sex with drunk women are sober?
And why is some arbitrary campus administrator handling reports of sexual assault?
did you go to college? everything that happens is handled by "some arbitrary campus administrator"
Why would you be reporting being raped to a campus administrator instead of the police?
As a male attorney, the female co-workers I've worked with (other attorneys/accountants/professionals, but excluding administrative/HR/PR which is another story) have generally been smarter and quicker to grasp things than their male counterparts. The men who work longer hours generally take longer to do the same complexity type of work. The women may not work as much overtime but their work product is as good or better.
I agree with the premise that women as a whole get paid less because they work less hours generally and consequently look for positions that allow them to work such schedules. I am the same way and see work as a means to an end rather than an end in itself, and don't see salary level as the ultimate measure of success. I don't work overtime unless needed, but I am very efficient when it comes to working time and get the same results or better than many of my colleagues (and received an employee of the year award recently).
The pay gap is largely attributable to compensation based on billable time in the private sector, but I think that paradigm is going to change as the legal profession goes through the ringer and efficiency is going to be rewarded more by clients than hours worked.
I would generally agree from what I have seen. Women tend to work harder and complain far less. Men may work more hours, but they spend a portion of it complaining how hard they work.
That being said, I think this is what plays against many women. They just put their nose down, suck it up and get the job done and go home (have too much to do at home anyway.) Men are constantly "working the refs", and willing take more risks.
As they say, squeaky wheels gets the grease.
My wife puts up with way more bullshit in her job than I ever would. I urge her to get pissed and look elsewhere or push the boss for more. She responded that she would feel bad for her coworkers who would get dumped on. This is not a male way to think about it.
I would generally agree from what I have seen. Women tend to work harder and complain far less. Men may work more hours, but they spend a portion of it complaining how hard they work.
I've worked in many an office, most of them with 75% or more female staff. I experienced the opposite - that the women were getting less work units done and bickering over the tiniest infractions, backstabbing each other, and other office politics.
The men just wanted to get the work done, the women wanted to play all the social games on each other... Who will they collectively praise today? Who will they ostracize? Whose dish will they NOT eat at tomorrow's potluck? Whose will they flock to and admire?
There's something else that needs to be considered - kids. My ex worked at one of the most prestigious law firms in the world and one of the things that she noticed was that basically no female partners had children while plenty of the male partners did. We have a cultural expectation that women will perform certain child care duties, but those duties are considered incompatible with the partner track at high-end firms.
The end result of this is that male attorneys in these firms can both have children and become a partner. For women this is extraordinarily difficult.
I've worked in many an office, most of them with 75% or more female staff. I experienced the opposite - that the women were getting less work units done and bickering over the tiniest infractions, backstabbing each other, and other office politics.
The men just wanted to get the work done, the women wanted to play all the social games on each other... Who will they collectively praise today? Who will they ostracize? Whose dish will they NOT eat at tomorrow's potluck? Whose will they flock to and admire?
I'm not kidding or exaggerating. I wish I were.
Of course, I've worked with greedy male assholes grubbing for promotions and kicking the legs out from under people to do it, and male bosses every bit as cruel as the female bosses...
Total jerks come in both genders and there's LOTS of them. I'd say about half the world population are total assholes.
why do women want to backstab eachother so much?