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rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Grew up here because the schools are good here on LI. Stayed here for the same reason - for our kids. It's all about giving them the best chances to succeed. Rest of family and friends we graduated with are 90% here too, which makes for a more eventful lifestyle.

I don't think we can retire here because of the cost of living. And I do want to see what's out there (for living) by that age - maybe we'll leave this place to our kids as a loan in case we don't like where we are.

Pros include having access to everything. NYC, best pizzas (food in general), countless beaches, parks, entertainment, 4 seasons, safe towns, plentiful jobs. Everything you'd want for raising a family.

Cons include friggin corrupt local gov't who take and spend your money on BS (like (1) $6mil to rip down 200 trees spanning 3 towns so their buddies in the tree business can profit from it or (2) spending untold sums to put up automated school zone speed cams for revenue so the police can get their raises - irony, only to have them removed 4 months later at more cost due to rushed & poor implementation). 6-figure teachers and cops that mean high taxes. Basically - unions are the cause of all this. I have respect for school teachers in general, but here - it doesn't matter if you're in a poor-performing school district, if you're in the union, you get paid based on experience. Some teachers in the worst-performing schools in the entire state make over $115k. The same as our Kindergarten teachers who make $120k. No, nothing wrong with those points at all, right?

Other cons - 100x60 lots and most people's homes are under 2000 sqft. It's suburbia but we're nearly on top of neighbors. Some people list traffic too, but I don't go out at peak hours or try to avoid it.

Assumptions - some people assume LI is all rich, but the exorbitant taxes (we pay $15k/year w/ $10k of that going to schools) make that impossible. We're here for the good of our kids and spend relatively frugally. We're not hurting (because of the higher pay in the area including NYC jobs), but we're not swimming in it either. That'd only be possible if we're both teachers. There are pockets of rich areas sprinkled throughout, but the majority is typical suburbia, being shaken down by unions in the name of schools and safety.

Rudeness of NY'ers - I don't get it. There are ALL kinds here and that includes the city. Maybe people who say that are from areas where people fake-smile at you all day and aren't used to being around people having actual emotions.
 
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dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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CT here. Moved here in HS with family. Too poor to move out now :awe:

Pros:
No real natural disasters, just a few bad snowstorms a year where you stay home for a day
Quick access to Boston & NYC, without actually having to live there
Lots of historical & art history stuff, if you're into that
Maine & Canada are only half a day's drive for quick vacation trips
Tons of cool B&B's in the NE area for overnight & weekend stays
Beautiful fall foilage & lots of cool pick-your-own farms with delicious pies & fruit
4 full seasons, so you can have a nice summer & then go sledding in the winter

Cons:
No good fast-food restaurants (they just barely built our first Chik-fil-a)
Crazy expensive to live here
Tax on everything up the wazoo: food, cars, housing, etc. (even leased cars!)
Crummy roads full of potholes (despite high taxes)
People are generally pretty cold here (closed-off), not nearly as open as people in the south
Not really a super ton of things to do if you're younger
Beaches are terrible. Bathwater with no waves.
Both parents generally have to work to sustain a good income to live here comfortably
Ticks & lyme disease

People automatically think you're rich & liberal if you live in Connecticut. Really, it's just like anywhere else, just with a higher percentage of older rich people. Plus, the flip side of having really rich areas is having really poor areas nearby with lots of crime & apathetic attitudes. Just ask any ATOT'er who lives in New Haven how much fun it is to walk around at night

If I was making bank & only had to work 40 hours a week, it'd be an awesome place to live since you'd have the free time to enjoy all of the fun (and expensive) stuff in the area. One thing I do really like is the lack of natural disasters. We avoid the bulk of the earthquakes, tornados, and hurricanes (minus the oddball visits of each over the last few years), the only real natural disaster is how stupid expensive it is to live here. I like having seasons, not having alligators in the ponds (people actually swim in lakes here, it's crazy!), being within driving distances to lots of different states that all have their own unique offerings, etc.
If you go to Westerly RI beaches they are better because they aren't buffered by the Sound. They aren't Cape Cod good but at least there are some waves in the 1-3ft range, even higher after storms.
 

BlitzPuppet

Platinum Member
Feb 4, 2012
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Grew up here, Family is here, Girlfriend's family is here, Work is here.

Pros: Big city, nice areas, plenty of gun ranges D), No snow during winter

Cons: Big city, Melting pot population that tends to self segregate, which leads to extreme polarization when it comes to neighborhoods and cost of housing, Awful summers that start around April-May and end mid-late November, EXTREMELY high humidity. AWFUL traffic. SO sick of TexMex food.
 
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PricklyPete

Lifer
Sep 17, 2002
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Live in CO. Did not grow up here and currently have no family (sister and her family are planning to move here in 2 years.

I grew up in NY/CT, went to college in SC, spent summers in CA, lived in SC, MO (St.Louis), and FL (Ft. Lauderdale) since college. Have spent a lot of time in WA, UT, and NC.

When my last company decided to move me overseas (which had a lot of pros, but too many cons for what I wanted out of life), my wife and I sat down and narrowed our focus on a few cities to concentrate on. Denver ended up topping the list and I found a good job relatively quickly. I won't say that I will live in Denver forever, but I expect I will live my life somewhere in/around the Rockies.

Pros: mountains, 4 seasons, dry weather, sun, outdoor activities, people
Cons: can get cold if that is not your thing, relatively expensive, congestion from people moving in.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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I came to the Puget Sound area to find work in the 80's, met my wife, and we purchased this place because it was close to her ailing parents. Took care of them in their last years, and stay here now because we don't want to shell out big $$ to move.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
69,557
27,861
136
Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? constantly. and they're generally correct, at least about those i grew up with and those who think that this area is even remotely acceptable for any purpose aside from testing the next nuclear bomb.

Sung to the tune of Some Enchanted Evening:

Somewhere in Ohio
You will see some soybeans
You will see some soybeans
Growing next to corn...

 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
26,255
403
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Grew up there?

Work? Family?

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?

What are some pros and cons of where you live?

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from?
I live in Michigan, currently downstate in Ann Arbor. I was born, grew up, and lived in the Upper Peninsula for 29 years. I moved in 2012 looking for work since I'm a software developer and there's not many software jobs in the U.P. I decided to stay in Michigan because my brother is down here as well as a good friend, and I like the state enough to remain in it (i.e. I would've never moved to Illinois or other liberal state with stupid gun laws).

Not sure where I plan to retire. Haven't even begun to think of that (I'll be 32 this weekend).

Pros: Cheaper cost of living compared to the coasts and some other places (especially in the U.P.). The Upper Peninsula is beautiful and much less populated. You get four seasons, despite the joke that it snows for 10 months out of the year here. Did I mention I love the U.P.?

Cons: Downstate voters in Detroit and the big cities cause the state to be blue, but it ain't too bad I guess. Winter can be hellish after awhile. The roads are usually shitty and can wreck havoc on your car (as well as the salt they put on the roads). There's a billion deer in the U.P., and quite a bit in lower Michigan, so odds are good you'll hit at least one in your lifetime (I totaled out my 1999 Honda Civic a few years ago).

When I told people at my current job I was from the U.P., they tried looking for the "Yooper accent." People tend to assume Yoopers are respectful, hard working, down-to-Earth, etc. I guess taken as a whole they are but of course there's exceptions. They also think, like I mentioned before, that winter is super long and we get 20 feet of snow and whatnot. We used to; I should post some pictures of when my mom was younger. The snowbanks would blow you away. But it hasn't been like that for years. People probably think Yoopers are hickish, which I guess they are compared to big city folk. Oh well, I <3 the U.P.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
69,557
27,861
136
Arizona

Grew up there?
No.

Work? Family?
No. I found a job because I wanted to live here.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?
Yes.

What are some pros and cons of where you live?
Pros:
Climate
Endless places to hike, camp, explore.
Sonoran desert is drop dead gorgeous
Best local Mexican food (suck it, New Mexico)

Cons:
Too many people
Rabid, dumb-as-a-box-rocks politicians
Growth is God mentality
Greedy old people everywhere
Anti-education mentality
Cultural backwater (if you ain't a pre-2000 has-been, you don't play Arizona)
Ain't a lot of good local restaurants that aren't Mexican

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from?
Assume I'm a rabid, dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks, anti-education, uncultured, greedy old person. Only two of those things are true.
 
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Exterous

Super Moderator
Jun 20, 2006
20,431
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Grew up there?
No

Work? Family?
Work

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?
No but I also didn't think I would stay in this area anywhere remotely as long. We've looked at moving a couple of times but we like our house and our neighborhood and moving elsewhere while keeping those standards would cost a lot more money.

Pros:
Close to a major airport for travel although it would be nice if DTW had a few more non-Delta flight options. Good food options. Michigan is big into Micro-brews so thats nice too

Cons:
Winter driving, humid summers, economy hasn't been great
 

Newell Steamer

Diamond Member
Jan 27, 2014
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All of the above - work (20 min from NYC), grew up there and family.

Also, it's the cheapest and closest to the city (but, that has and will change shortly).
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
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Grew up there? Yeah

Work? Family? Work yeah, future family - I hope not.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die? No.

What are some pros and cons of where you live? NYC is pro and con.

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? No, people assume things because of my race and skin color. Not trolling, it's a fact.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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1,604
126
Grew up around here, I live about 30 miles NW of the suburb where I lived as a child, I like it much better where I live now vs where I lived back then.

I stuck around for work and family.

I want to retire/die in Northern Wisconsin, the upper peninsula of Michigan, or maybe Minnesota.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,371
14
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Grew up there?
Yep

Work? Family?
Yep

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?
Nope. I want to head to warmer weather ASAP

What are some pros and cons of where you live?
Low cost of living is good. Plenty of jobs. The people are great.
Shitty drivers and cold weather.


Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from?
That I'm cold. And I am.

Murder Mitten in the house!
 

Sho'Nuff

Diamond Member
Jul 12, 2007
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Wife.

That, and because there are no jobs for me further north that would not require a complete career change.
 

Uppsala9496

Diamond Member
Nov 2, 2001
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Grew up there? Yes

Work? Family? Yes/yes

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?Probably

What are some pros and cons of where you live? Pro is that I have a summer house about 1.5 hours north along the WI border. It's on a lake. Been in the family for almost 100 years. Have a nice pontoon boat I bought 2 summers ago (which I just paid off last week).
I spend almost every weekend in the summer at the cottage.

Cons - winter weather. Actually I like winter. Wish it dropped below freezing in early November and didn't get above freezing until early March. It's the melting of snow and slushy crap that I hate.
Oh and taxes are high. Income tax, sales tax, property tax. Damn corrupt state.
 

bradly1101

Diamond Member
May 5, 2013
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www.bradlygsmith.org
Grew up there? Yes

Work? Family? Yes. Yes.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die? Already retired, I don't know where I'll die since I'm not making plans for that.

What are some pros and cons of where you live?
Pros: Weather in so.CA is amazing. No snow, no hurricanes, no tornadoes, few major storms, and all the rivers and their tributaries are part of a vast above/below ground concrete flood control system, so floods are rare. And my friends are here. There's great food and culture here, it's not the gastronomic/cultural wasteland people say it is.

Cons: The weather can be a bit boring, and all the rivers and creeks are concrete!

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? No, and you know what assumptions are anyway...
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Grew up there? Nope

Work? Family? Moved here because of work, bought a house at a time when housing was still somewhat affordable. My wife's family is from here, all of my family is on the east coast. My son is a native San Diegan.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die? I would be happy to live here the rest of my life.

What are some pros and cons of where you live?

Pros-Weather is damned near perfect. Sunny and warm most of the year, very few biting insects, beaches nearby, mountains nearby, vibrant city, lots to do, great Mexican food.

Cons-High cost of living, traffic.

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? I'm sure some do but I don't care, the assumptions are mostly made by idiots who live somewhere that sucks.
 
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Dec 10, 2005
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Why do I live where I live?

Grew up there?
No, but I did grow up in the next county over.

Work? Family?
Grad school is the primary reason. Being 'close' to family for me meant as long as I didn't have to fly to get home, that was fine.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?
Absolutely not.

What are some pros and cons of where you live?
Pros: great mass transit, great food options, great entertainment options
Cons: too many people, very high cost of living (I somehow lucked out here with a very cheap 3 br that I split with 2 others), generally cramped living conditions, noisy all the time, etc...

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from?
I have no idea.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
10,247
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Grew up there?

Work? Family?

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?

What are some pros and cons of where you live?

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from?

1. Yep
2. Yep, Yep
3. Nope, Nope
4. Nice middling climate, varied geography, and the main cities are nice for the most part and have some interesting people. However most everything else is either some BF farm town or a small mostly-useless college town. Most of those locals are fucking stupid, and they relish it.
5. Nope; people that know MO are MO and so don't judge based on that, nobody on the outside knows what to think of the place because they've barely heard of it.

I thought I had escaped years ago, but after losing basically everything I found myself in the enviable position of living with my parents. Now I'm living at, working at, and attending a state university. If nothing else goes horribly wrong I plan to GTFO in about 5 years, maybe earlier if I get lucky with my first job after graduation.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
49,606
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www.slatebrookfarm.com
Grew up there?
I grew up nearby. I'm a teacher in a good school district. As soon as I got tenure, I looked for a house in the district and started my own kids coming to school here.

Work? Family?
Work - I work less than 5 miles from my house; except for the first 300 yards, the entire commute is on 1 road at 55mph, no traffic, unless I leave at a time when I get behind a school bus making stops - adds about 2 minutes to the commute.

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die?
I'll be living here when I retire. However, current retirement plans are to bounce around half a dozen or so locations in the country and (mostly) live in an RV.

What are some pros and cons of where you live?
Housing is incredibly cheap to own. "The man" doesn't constantly hassle you - I just ripped off a roof on a 26'x12' shed, put in new rafters for a new roof, put on new steel roofing, and straightened and rebuilt one of the walls. No building permit, no inspector breathing down my neck, no HOA dictating the color or what time I can be working on it. Most crime is very low in the area. Police reports in the newspaper (printed once per week) are about 15 entries long. Typical entry: "Wed 9:30pm, resident on Health Camp Road reported a loud car driving up and down the road." "Wed 9:50pm. Officer X located driver of car. Driver reported he had been fixing the car and took it out for a test drive. He promised not to drive it on the road that late if it was bothering neighbors, until he was done with the exhaust."

8500 acres of state land behind my house. All the apples and blackberries I could ever want, and more. Plus plenty of hunting opportunities (deer, squirrels, grouse, pheasant, ducks,...). Plenty of snowmobile trails that connect to the state system; one trail runs along the back corner of my property. Cross-country trails, a large bog, plus several other areas for kayaking in, fishing, etc. (No costs for access.)

No urban types of noise. No idiots with big speakers in their cars that you can hear 100 feet away (or several blocks away). Traffic noise is the sound of clip clop clip clop of an Amish horse off in the distance on a clear night. I can't remember the last time I heard a car horn from my house or yard. Though, occasionally, the tones going off at the fire station - and a damn good volunteer fire department they are. The siren (tones) summoning the volunteer firemen was going off a couple weeks ago - a minute later on the scanner, the first fireman was on the scene "Trailer fire, fully engulfed from one end to the other." 8 minutes later, it was out.

A lot of good, non-chain restaurants in the area. And restaurant food is very affordable, compared to restaurant prices for similar meals near bigger cities. Plus, real Amish markets - tons of fresh grown produce in season, lumber that's a fraction of the price of box stores, and steel roofing that's a fraction of the price of box stores as well, (and custom cabinets, and other services like getting my boat reupholstered).

Cons: Not a lot of places to shop. Thank FSM for Amazon Prime. Nearest Walmart is in the next county over. Wait - maybe that's another pro. Though, a great local grocery store with great prices compared to what I've read others are paying in other areas. No real malls within 1 1/2 hours. Nearest Best Buy, about 1 1/2 hours, etc. 1 1/2 hours to Rochester, 1 1/2 hours to Buffalo, 1 1/2 hours to Corning/Elmira, 1 1/2 hours to Warren, PA. And, relatively few good paying jobs in the area. E.g., don't move here and expect to find a job. Property taxes are kind of high, percentage-wise; I think that currently, it's around 5% of full assessed value - and they're assessed for what they would sell for.

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? Not that I know of. Well, except if I tell people from outside of this state that I live in NY, they assume I ride the subway. Nearest subway is about 6 hours away. New York isn't just NYC. Idiots from out of state can't comprehend that NYC doesn't extend to the border near Ohio.
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
12,985
1
81
Grew up there? No

Work? Family? No, No

Is where you live where you plan to retire/die? No

What are some pros and cons of where you live?

pros:
fast changing, I like dynamics

cons:
pollution and food safety

Do people automatically assume things about you when you tell them where you are from? hard to tell. It is not like I have to lie.

I live in shanghai now, btw. I married a girl here so kinda move here.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
Kept losing jobs thanks to the economy.
Mom suggested I live with her and go to school full time.
If I'd known what a bitch college is for someone my age, I would have kept taking on jobs.
 
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