Why do you shop at wal-mart?

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Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
I don't. Walmart is abusive to their employees. They pay them piss poor wages, they call full time 32 hours. Make employees clock out and continue to work. Medical insurance is so expensive that most workers can't afford it. They are the junk from China king of the world. I don't think anybody imports more crap from China then they do. They treat their vendors like sh!t often using threats.
The list goes on and on and on.

Go to sites like walmartwatch.com and see what this company is up to.

Oh and before you say this is just normal business, it isn't. Companies don't need to mistreat their employees and vendors. Target makes a nice profit and doesn't need to pull the crap that Walmart does.

Wrong, all full time employees are entitled to 37.5 hours a week.

Their wages are very competitive compared to other retailers, as is their benefits package. Every single employee has walmart stock options available to them, and in the case of sams club, we have profit sharing bonuses at the end of the year for every single employee (last year it was very substantial as we had a low accident and shrink rate). You get regular raises based on evaluations (after 90 day probationary period, then yearly, exceptional employees can also get special raises from managers but they are rare).

Walmart offers regular breaks to everyone, even in states that dont require them (PA is one of them), the break rooms have tons of space, microwaves, and vending machines that sell food and drinks AT COST. Depending on the club or store, theres also an employee honor system fridge stocked with healthy foods. (some clubs and stores abuse this and dont pay for their food so it gets shut down, or the Store manager opts not to do it).

They set goals and requirements for their employees, they give you regular evaluations of your progress.

I dont call that abusive.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: RobCur
You know they suck right? using mostly foreign employee, rarely do I see Americans employed in their store... because they only accept lower pay, their more likely to hire an inexperienced foreigner then someone who is an expert at customer service or much more knowledgeable. Most of them just kept silence, no thank you after purchase. Never feel like I am appreciated, so screw them.

I'd rather just shop elsewhere even if I have to drive a few more miles or spend a little more. Starting to day, I will shop elsewhere and encourage all my relative and friends to do the same. What happen to buy Americans? We're selling outselves out to complete stranger everyday the more we buy and save, the evil corporation does not care about us at all.
BTW, did you know that most of them that shop their are foreigner and people who are employed by wally? lmao... makes perfect sense right?

It's capitalism, stop complaining just because your team is losing
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Lounatik
Originally posted by: Freejack2
I don't. Walmart is abusive to their employees. They pay them piss poor wages, they call full time 32 hours. Make employees clock out and continue to work. Medical insurance is so expensive that most workers can't afford it. They are the junk from China king of the world. I don't think anybody imports more crap from China then they do. They treat their vendors like sh!t often using threats.
The list goes on and on and on.

Go to sites like walmartwatch.com and see what this company is up to.

Oh and before you say this is just normal business, it isn't. Companies don't need to mistreat their employees and vendors. Target makes a nice profit and doesn't need to pull the crap that Walmart does.


I dont see that. I am a vendor that deals with Wal-mart on a daily basis and I have yet to see this "mistreating the vendors "stuff everyone speaks of. I do know that they want the maximum allowance on my product and by doing that , they proceed to pass that savings to the customer. Threats? Man, I cannot imagine what some folks are dreaming up. I am not going to that site, nor do I care what it says. I am telling you about my experience alone.

Another thing: I shop at a supercenter every two weeks for my family. I probably save AT LEAST 40-50.00 per shopping trip. How dare anyone else tell me how to save my money? I have a family that depends on the money I make . Not some stupid ideal of "they mistreat their employees and I am not going to shop there!" I do not care. Call me callous, an asshole,whatever.I am going to shop where my money goes the farthest for my family and the rest of you people can sit at home worrying about other poples business.



Peace

Lounatik

Walmart does not mistreat its distributors, while they do pressure their distribs for better prices, WHY SHOULDNT THEY?
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: RobCur
huh? so you're saying being self employed is illegal? you rather be slaves to a big corporation who's profit does not benefit us all?
dude, you're got it all wrong, walmart employs illegal aliens 90 person of the time... These people don't even qualify, their willing to work, yes but no skill! damnit, why am I even argueing with brainwashed nutty sucker? to prove my point?

WTF does this say? I think YOU work at WalMart.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: loki8481
why not?

I hate local, "mom-and-pop" stores. they're a lot more likely to be employing illegal alients, the selection sucks, and they tend to assume that everyone under 25 is a shop lifter.

huh? so you're saying being self employed is illegal? you rather be slaves to a big corporation who's profit does not benefit us all?
dude, you're got it all wrong, walmart employs illegal aliens 90 person of the time... These people don't even qualify, their willing to work, yes but no skill! damnit, why am I even argueing with brainwashed nutty sucker? to prove my point?

RobCur, WTF are you talking about? Do you know how to read? Where in that post did Loki mention anything about self employment? Plus, your figures are outrageous. 90% of walmart workers are illegal aliens? Are you stupid? Nevermind, I don't even need to ask. You are a complete moron and one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on these boards. Get hit by a bus.
 

RobCur

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Originally posted by: Avalon
Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: loki8481
why not?

I hate local, "mom-and-pop" stores. they're a lot more likely to be employing illegal alients, the selection sucks, and they tend to assume that everyone under 25 is a shop lifter.

huh? so you're saying being self employed is illegal? you rather be slaves to a big corporation who's profit does not benefit us all?
dude, you're got it all wrong, walmart employs illegal aliens 90 person of the time... These people don't even qualify, their willing to work, yes but no skill! damnit, why am I even argueing with brainwashed nutty sucker? to prove my point?

RobCur, I suck dick, wanna lick some?.
No thanks.


 

DeeKnow

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
The only "foreigner" working at my Sams club is from Puerto Rico and is here for Managment training. He was transferred out here by Walmart. The rest of the people in my club are "Americans".

Walmart is the 2nd largest employer in the US. 2nd only to the US govt.

My club sells local chip brands, local produce, local candy, local hot dogs and lunchmeat, local water and ice brands... donates all unsold fresh bakery goods to the local shelters... I really dont see where youre coming from.

from ignorance, I'd assume?
 

RobCur

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
I never shop at wal-mart unless I'm forced to.

never? even if you have no food to eat? I am guilty of supporting evil in america, 90 percent of the time I shop at walmart for the last 10 years or so and not knowing that it was the reason why they grown so big today. There's just as much as people who loves walmart and so it creates confusion among everyone.
Even me mother who never liked walmart much now loves walmart, and guess who kept talking her into buying at walmart in the first place? that's right, me.

most big corporation are bad for us but hating walmart maybe a good start to bring the masses to fair business practice. No one can compete against these behemoth monsters, we're basically slaves today... got a problem? you're fired!

I didn't realize I'm buying Americans into poverty, but it's not too late to stop because I am changing today. Sooner or later they will go out of business like they have done to many other small businesses and I joke you not because today I am very poor.

This is my pride, I am a proud american, no one can boss me around,and tell me that I am wrong even thought I am right against my free will.

 

mobobuff

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What does ANY of that have to do with the CONSUMER? This thread is about SHOPPING at Wal-mart. Let me familiarize you with the process.

1. Enter store.
2. Buy product(s).
3. Leave store.

Simple as that. Buying a product from a store does not make anybody "ignorant to the world". Ignorant to sympathies for people not receiving fair treatment from their employer, maybe, but I don't give a cornyshit about that. I DON'T WORK THERE.
 

Lounatik

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but I don't give a cornyshit about that. I DON'T WORK THERE.

Nor is anyone FORCED to. So spare me the sob stories about the poor 40 yr old who has decided that 8.00 an hour constitutes a living and then has the balls to complain that the company isnt fair. You dont like it, leave. Its that simple. Oh, I keep on forgetting: Where are some of these poor "victims" going to find another job? Evil Wal Mart has taken all of the "good" 8.00 an hour jobs! And Lord knows you cant leave a town to find menial employment elsewhere.


Peace


Lounatik
 

FleshLight

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Isn't it ironic that someone who can barely speak english whines about Walmart hiring illegal aliens?

Maybe we (Americans) are just too fat, lazy, and greedy and get our panties in a bunch when someone wants to work more for less, or in the case of Walmart, work less for less.
 

Ultima

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Why would I shop at Walmart?? There's a mall half a mile away from where I live with grocery store, pharmacy etc.. Walmart is at least 5 miles away.
 

lokiju

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Only reason I go there usually is because its "convenient" there is one right across the street from my house and its open 24/7.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Lounatik
but I don't give a cornyshit about that. I DON'T WORK THERE.

Nor is anyone FORCED to. So spare me the sob stories about the poor 40 yr old who has decided that 8.00 an hour constitutes a living and then has the balls to complain that the company isnt fair. You dont like it, leave. Its that simple. Oh, I keep on forgetting: Where are some of these poor "victims" going to find another job? Evil Wal Mart has taken all of the "good" 8.00 an hour jobs! And Lord knows you cant leave a town to find menial employment elsewhere.


Peace


Lounatik

Bingo!

Nobody is forceing them to work at wal-mart. Obvoisily they can get away with paying $8/hr because they always have enough poeple. IF they didnt they would pay more then $8/hr. Boohoo if they can't get a better job someplace else.

i have NO sympathy for someone working at walmart at 40 for $8/hr NONE. they made mistakes in there life that lead them to walmart.
 

Amused

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Do not make the mistake of thinking that a worker is a slave and that he holds his job by his employer's permission. He does not hold it by permission - but by contract, that is, by a voluntary mutual agreement. A worker can quit his job; a slave cannot.

If Walmart was such a horrible employer, they would not be able to keep or hire employees. Somehow they have been able to not only keep employees, but earn enough of their loyalty to grow into the largest retail chain in the US. You don't do that by mistreating your employees.

However, being the largest retail chain in America has made them a primary target for disgruntled employees and anti-capitalist types. One needs to take this into account when reading anti-Walmart websites. Always question motive and never believe unsubstantiated rumors.

Has Walmart had isolated cases of employees abuse? Sure. And most cases can be traced to bad LOCAL management... an unavoidable problem that a chain runs into.

I own just a few sandwich shops and even I have had a manager mistreat employees and was forced to dismiss the manager. It happens.

Every Walmart I have been to in the US besides CA has employed English speaking Americans. The CA stores I saw had a few people who had accents, but I never ran into anyone I couldn't communicate with.

Robcur said something about "buy American." The American way is capitalism and FREEDOM, including free trade. Walmart is all about capitalism.

If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there. If you don't like their employment practices, don't work there. See how easy that is?

If you like Walmart, shop there. If you find their employment policies favorable, work there. See how easy that is?

That's freedom, folks.
 

Mill

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I try not to. I don't hate the company or anything, but they are never as clean, stock as nice of items, or have as many helpful people as Target. There isn't a Target within 15 miles of me, but there is about 3 Wal-Marts, so my options are sometimes limited.
 

Ornery

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Hah! RobCur can't be too happy with the responses as of late.

Consumers want low prices, and Walmart delivers. The name brand stuff they sell is EXACTLY the same as stuff sold elsewhere, so why pay more? Sure, we're cutting our own throats by going for the lower prices, but that isn't going to change. We're just going to have to adapt, that's all.
 

RobCur

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http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold...st_02/stott042902.html

I don't like china (communism) and especially buying made in china product, our neighborhood in poverty could use some donation. when your say you have to work for $, most of us have to work hard for it; starvation is a means to enforce their labor or enslavement. just look at cows in the past, when they were useful they were well treated; now they are nothing more then useless eater who is fed to us for $

people who love money too much makes me sick, do they realize it's just paper and is worthless! more money = happiness, debt = depression which will soon become "go kill yourself", LMAO.



 

Ornery

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You are one dense fvck, and ole' Don Stott isn't any better. If it were left up to you two clowns, we'd still be protecting the horse & buggy industry!

Let these BS "jobs" go to third world countries. Damn! WTF wants them? Does it still bother you that Japan "stole" our transistor radio "jobs"? You think they're still pissing & moaning because China stole those "jobs" from them? Christ, let these poor SOBs build the damn TVs and cheap clothing. I for one am farther ahead for not having to shell out two day's pay for American made pants!
 

RobCur

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I will try to put walmart out of business, they are sometime dicks when you want to return an item like pharmacy product without receipt, can't return candy cause it's trick or treat dumb policy. order something online, cancelled in an hour but those idiot fvcktard went right ahead and ship it 3 days later.
I took a lost of 5.00 on shipping and had to return it back to walmart scums.
these fvcker have lost my business completely now I will sxcrew them up the anus as hard as possible until they are bankrupt. It's funny but I am damn serious about it.
somebody gotta help me sue them for monopolizing the food industry! those bastard are like disease, a gigantic parasite growing faster then even china multiplying in number!@#$%^
 

RobCur

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I AM NOT CRAZY, WALMART IS NOT NICE, poor quality product, bad service and stealing from the poor selling worthless junk.
I am disappointed in people lacking ability to judge between good store and bad store, and just let the lower price gobble them up much like tricking a kid with a candy.
BTW, CHINA can go to HELL...I will tell my relative and friends not to shop their and to go elsewhere because they are screwyou kind of business, this is only the beginning.
It is easy to put small business out of business but this one is going to take quite a bit of drilling.
 

SuperTool

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It's not about you, it's the consumer (Joe Dirt)
Walmart is a good and bad thing. It pays low, but it brings in cheap goods to compensate for that. That isn't a problem by itself. The problem is that things outside of Walmart, like medicine and housing are getting more expensive. So you may be able to afford walmart goods with walmart wages, but not much else.
 
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