why does a person need to carry a gun on a daily basis in america in 2005?

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Mostly because I really enjoy pissing off idiots who don't like CCW permits.

I mean seriously, by the logic expounded by the naysayers thousands of people should be being shot & or killed by CCW permit holders. This is not the case & rest assured the media would be all over shootings by CCW permit holders.

Who would have guessed anyone can show some restraint & act in an adult manner

If anything that illustrates the ineffectiveness, assuming a decent number of people carry guns.

Actually, there have been a number of cases where a law-abiding citizen who had a permit to carry a weapon stopped an assault. They just don't get played up in the news because of the MSM's anti-gun leanings.

 

[NiKeFiDO]

one word answer to this thread:

pen1s


although in semi-seriousness, the htinking might be like "Well i want to learn how to shoot, thats badass" so you buy a gun and learn. then "well I know how, but whats the use if I need it and dont have it with me?" so you get a permit. also, its badass.

 

[imported_Pablo]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Pablo

Originally posted by: K1052
Better to not need it and have it than not have it and need it.

I understand that statement, but at least in my case, the cost of carrying a gun on my person over decades waiting for such a moment to arise aren't really worth it.

Same could be said of insurance. Do you have any?

Yes. And I pay monthly. And its guaranteed. Carrying a handgun does not guarantee any help in a time of need. I don't think its the same thing.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Mostly because I really enjoy pissing off idiots who don't like CCW permits.

I mean seriously, by the logic expounded by the naysayers thousands of people should be being shot & or killed by CCW permit holders. This is not the case & rest assured the media would be all over shootings by CCW permit holders.

Who would have guessed anyone can show some restraint & act in an adult manner

If anything that illustrates the ineffectiveness or unnecessariness, assuming a decent number of people carry guns.

Wrong, studies have shown that stories of stopped assaults/robberies etc by CCW permit holders don't make the main stream media.

Further, I have seen near weekly misrepresentations of the kinds of weapons used in many newscasts, reporters referring to a weapon as an "automatic" when they're in fact a semi automatic, guns that are or have black are frequently called "assault weapons" it seems to be because reporters in decades past were former military or raised in an area where guns were more common (hunting) & had at least a working knowledge of guns, that is no longer the case, with many reporters describing crimes/weapons that have never held or fired a gun.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

the right to carry arm is so that incase of an emergency a civilian milita can be assembeled. This includes government overthrowing

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Pablo

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Pablo

Originally posted by: K1052
Better to not need it and have it than not have it and need it.

I understand that statement, but at least in my case, the cost of carrying a gun on my person over decades waiting for such a moment to arise aren't really worth it.

Same could be said of insurance. Do you have any?

Yes. And I pay monthly. And its guaranteed. Carrying a handgun does not guarantee any help in a time of need. I don't think its the same thing.

You think insurance is guaranteed? Ever file a claim? Every heard of people having issues with filing claims against insurance and not being paid. Yeah, that happens eleventy billion times a day.

Nothing is guaranteed.

edit: I have had problems filing claims with insurance companies, I haven't been robbed/mugged/assaulted etc. Which are you more likely to have problems with? Yet you pay who for what and don't understand why people carry?

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: J0hnny
One of my best friends was mugged while walking home in his neighborhood (NYC). The robbers held him at gunpoint. When he gave him all his cash, he only had $10 at the time, they felt it wasn't enough and shot him in his back. To this day he carries that bullet because the doctors could not remove it. He was lucky he lived. He has limited mobility as a result.

I would rather die trying defend myself or live with the notion of knowing that the robber died than ever be shot in the back. Ever. No one can tell me otherwise.

I don't carry though.

So.. Someone is robbing you at gunpoint. What do you do? I want you to outline your actions, step by step. Right after the step where you reach your gun insert this one: "Robber fires.. multiple times because he's scared". Good game!


I'm not against gun rights in any way, except to close gun show loopholes and such.. But it pisses me off that people think they are Rambo.
When I buy a gun it will be to feel like more of a man, perhaps for protection in wilderness. At least I'm honest!

 

[meltdown75]

because you never know when you're going to come across someone that likes to play shooty-shooty bang bang.

 

[oddyager]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: J0hnny
One of my best friends was mugged while walking home in his neighborhood (NYC). The robbers held him at gunpoint. When he gave him all his cash, he only had $10 at the time, they felt it wasn't enough and shot him in his back. To this day he carries that bullet because the doctors could not remove it. He was lucky he lived. He has limited mobility as a result.

I would rather die trying defend myself or live with the notion of knowing that the robber died than ever be shot in the back. Ever. No one can tell me otherwise.

I don't carry though.

So.. Someone is robbing you at gunpoint. What do you do? I want you to outline your actions, step by step. Right after the step where you reach your gun insert this one: "Robber fires.. multiple times because he's scared". Good game!


I'm not against gun rights in any way, except to close gun show loopholes and such.. But it pisses me off that people think they are Rambo.
When I buy a gun it will be to feel like more of a man, perhaps for protection in wilderness. At least I'm honest!

:thumbsup:

It's easy to say what you "think" you would do in that situation, but writing it and being there as it unfolds are two different things.

 

[PingSpike]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but obviously you would carry it for shooting things. Things like cans, wild animals, cars, people, etc.

 

[xSauronx]

i dont have one, my father, who likes to hunt, has several rifles (good deals, a few never-been-fired collector pieces), 4 or 5 shotguns (no, its not necessary, hes unable to pass up a good deal, ever) and i think 4 pistols (one is an old old revolver, one was a gift, one was payment for something, the other he bought)

he keeps a loaded shotgun by his bed, though hes never needed it.

he keeps a loaded pistol at work, locked in a cabinet with all his cash. he keeps it out when hes working late on equipment and someone comes by the place. he knows enough people who would drop by if they saw him there late at night to open the door, but hes near enough to the projects that he keeps it on him if hes at work after dark.

i dont own a pistol or any other firearm. i live in a quiet rural area outside of town, and have 2 dogs that keep pretty well anyone away from my place. i may get one in the future if i lived in a different area in or closer to town

i dont have a problem with anyone wanting to own or carry a weapon on them. in some cases its probably silly and unncecessary, and not in others. im just more concerned as to whether or not most people who carry really know how to use it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I almost never carry a gun. I do own guns though and I have holsters for some of them to allow me to carry if needed. Sometimes I will take one with me though if I think I might need it.

Just last weekend someone called my wife and wanted to see a property (she's a realtor) but asked to meet her in a Del Taco parking lot off the freeway so I followed her down there in my car with a loaded .45 just to make sure everything was okay. Turned out fine but I'd rather make sure she's safe than have her go missing or something. You just never know.

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So.. Someone is robbing you at gunpoint. What do you do? I want you to outline your actions, step by step. Right after the step where you reach your gun insert this one: "Robber fires.. multiple times because he's scared". Good game!

I'm not against gun rights in any way, except to close gun show loopholes and such.. But it pisses me off that people think they are Rambo.
When I buy a gun it will be to feel like more of a man, perhaps for protection in wilderness. At least I'm honest!

I agree, if somebody sticks a gun in your face, how are you going to pull your gun out without getting shot? At best you're in a close-range shootout at a big disadvantage. I can see if you were in a store that's being robbed a concealed weapon might help. But a lot of retail establishments specifically ban concealed weapons.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Just last weekend someone called my wife and wanted to see a property (she's a realtor) but asked to meet her in a Del Taco parking lot off the freeway so I followed her down there in my car with a loaded .45 just to make sure everything was okay.

Unless you can accompany your wife everywhere, you and your gun do her little good.

 

[79Blazer]

I work for a large utility company. My work frequently takes me into all areas of Detroit, and it's surrounding areas. After too many bad experiences of performing a non-pay disconnect, I have a CCW.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: quakefiend420
after i got robbed at a stoplight a while back i always carry a gun

How would the gun have protected you? I'm picturing a guy doing the GTA *open the door and pull out the driver* thing and I don't the driver having a chance to open the glove box, pull out his revolve, cock, aim at the guy 2" from him, and shooting.

Edit: Now I see you were robbed at gunpoint. So would someone please explain to me how being robbed at gunpoint means you have the opportunity to pull your own gun? Maybe I've seen to many action movies, but it seems that when someone has a gun pointed at you, unless you're Colin Farrell, you aren't going to be pulling a pistol off your belt.

Simple. All you have to do is fire at exactly the same time as the robber. Then the bullets (assuming equal mass) will bounce off eachother!

Learning a real-world self defense technique (such as Krav Maga) will be far more useful (and less likely to get you dead). Of course it takes, like, actual work and stuff.

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You think insurance is guaranteed? Ever file a claim? Every heard of people having issues with filing claims against insurance and not being paid. Yeah, that happens eleventy billion times a day.

Nothing is guaranteed.

edit: I have had problems filing claims with insurance companies, I haven't been robbed/mugged/assaulted etc. Which are you more likely to have problems with? Yet you pay who for what and don't understand why people carry?

I'm pretty darn sure that no insurance company is going to refuse to pay for a stolen car. Your chance of getting capped by a tweaking meth-head with an itchy trigger finger when you attempt to go for your piece seems much higher.

 

[Queasy]

Everyone keeps referring to these one-on-one confrontations with assailants. There have been plenty of instances where a bystander who was carrying a gun saved a victim from an assailant. I vaguely remember a story a few years back about a maniac who was terrorizing a school and was stopped by a person that had a permit to carry.

 

[Baked]

Carrying a gun will just get you killed faster.

 

[J0hnny]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So.. Someone is robbing you at gunpoint. What do you do? I want you to outline your actions, step by step. Right after the step where you reach your gun insert this one: "Robber fires.. multiple times because he's scared". Good game!

I'm not against gun rights in any way, except to close gun show loopholes and such.. But it pisses me off that people think they are Rambo.
When I buy a gun it will be to feel like more of a man, perhaps for protection in wilderness. At least I'm honest!

I agree, if somebody sticks a gun in your face, how are you going to pull your gun out without getting shot? At best you're in a close-range shootout at a big disadvantage. I can see if you were in a store that's being robbed a concealed weapon might help. But a lot of retail establishments specifically ban concealed weapons.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Just last weekend someone called my wife and wanted to see a property (she's a realtor) but asked to meet her in a Del Taco parking lot off the freeway so I followed her down there in my car with a loaded .45 just to make sure everything was okay.

Unless you can accompany your wife everywhere, you and your gun do her little good.

At least he has a fighting chance.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You think insurance is guaranteed? Ever file a claim? Every heard of people having issues with filing claims against insurance and not being paid. Yeah, that happens eleventy billion times a day.

Nothing is guaranteed.

edit: I have had problems filing claims with insurance companies, I haven't been robbed/mugged/assaulted etc. Which are you more likely to have problems with? Yet you pay who for what and don't understand why people carry?

I'm pretty darn sure that no insurance company is going to refuse to pay for a stolen car. Your chance of getting capped by a tweaking meth-head with an itchy trigger finger when you attempt to go for your piece seems much higher.

"pretty sure" eh? Bet your life on it? Trust me, people get screwed with insurance companies plenty.

Any self defense can be considered risky, yet you support hand-gun combat? OK. You're bringing a fist to a gun fight, how's that safer?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
huh.. you can carry guns? I thought tht was illegal unless you're a cop, or some other officer. I thought civilians aren't allows to carry guns in public and only maybe in ranges or something.

Depends on your state laws...

 

[Stretchman]

Hmm... wasn't there a statistic on that? Something having to do with the majority of gun fatalities...hm?

 

[Metron]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Mostly because I really enjoy pissing off idiots who don't like CCW permits.

I mean seriously, by the logic expounded by the naysayers thousands of people should be being shot & or killed by CCW permit holders. This is not the case & rest assured the media would be all over shootings by CCW permit holders.

Who would have guessed anyone can show some restraint & act in an adult manner

If anything that illustrates the ineffectiveness, assuming a decent number of people carry guns.

Actually, there have been a number of cases where a law-abiding citizen who had a permit to carry a weapon stopped an assault. They just don't get played up in the news because of the MSM's anti-gun leanings.

About 10 years ago, I lived in Fort Worth, Texas. A woman was kidnapped by a psycho with a large hunting knife and a holstered pistol. She was taken from Hulen Mall at knife point into the parking lot.

A law-abiding citizen "just returning from the gun range" opened his trunk and removed a S&W .44 magnum. He called to the psycho to release the woman. When the pyscho refused, the citizen shot the psycho in the head.

The Fort Worth District Attorney refused to press charges.

 

[DrPizza]

because I hate porcupines, and it's open season all year long on porcupines.

 

[GroundZero]

protection from republicans

 

[733SHiFTY]

People carry guns because 50 Cent says its cool.