why does ATOT think you have to announce that youre armed before you fire at intruder

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Zebo

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The broom? You heard about AKs? Guy did a mag dump at a dinner and missed all shots.
 

Jschmuck2

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Lots of trained killers on this board. I hope any would-be home invaders read this so they know what they're getting into.
 

jonks

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Why does BlahBlahYouToo think that he has to share every idiotic thought that flashes through his mind with ATOT?

Because he's white, so naturally thinks his opinions are worth more than everyone else's.

Note, not all white people think this, just the racist ones. Wait, that is all of them.




(im white. Well I was born jewish so some of the above racist whites would say i'm not white, but screw em. If Brendan Frasier could pass for joe schmo elitist at a WASP boarding school then so could I)

As to the OP, some people consider human life, you know, special, and would like to avoid killing someone if reasonably possible. Also useful in avoiding accidents, like a drunk guy trying to break into his "own" house not realizing it's his neighbor's and getting killed for the mistake. But if someone kicks down your front door and comes in guns blazing, I don't think the liberals in OT are suggesting you ask politely for him to leave. But nuance was never the right's strong suit.
 
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Because it's a liberal message board. Same reason I get an "infraction" for calling someone a cuntwad when he is one.
Or my infraction for stating that it's more likely that oldsmoboat (a male) has had anal sex than is pregnant. Would love to hear the mods explain how that's not true.
 

JulesMaximus

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Because he's white, so naturally thinks his opinions are worth more than everyone else's.

Note, not all white people think this, just the racist ones. Wait, that is all of them.

(im white. Well I was born jewish so some of the above racist whites would say i'm not white, but screw em. If Brendan Frasier could pass for joe schmo elitist at a WASP boarding school then so could I)

As to the OP, some people consider human life, you know, special, and would like to avoid killing someone if reasonably possible. Also useful in avoiding accidents, like a drunk guy trying to break into his "own" house not realizing it's his neighbor's and getting killed for the mistake.

I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally.
 

Firsttime

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Is he holding that right? It doesn't look right. (the gun, not the broom. He's obviously holding the broom upside down)

I would assume one wouldn't generally hold the mag when shooting. The left hand is usually further up the gun to control recoil.

If someone were to break into my place they have violated every law of respect I abide by, so I would pull the trigger first. Of course this is assuming I am sure they are a home invader. I'm not gonna run around pre-firing corners or anything haha.
 

Number1

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lulz. You're fucking stupid if you don't think this is a liberal message board. Your own response about a personal death sentence shows you fit right in. My cuntwad comment simply shows that I'll call things as they are. It's funny to see grown men act as children though, that's something to masturbate to.

I am as conservative as they get up here in Canada.
If you want to see a liberal see Denilfloss. Your brand of tea bagers american conservatism is a joke and is despised in the rest of the world.
I don't know why you have to resort to so much foul language but you got warned in the past and may very well get more warning if you keep this up.
 

Zebo

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Is he holding that right? It doesn't look right. (the gun, not the broom. He's obviously holding the broom upside down)

Good stance actually. He prefers to hold hand on mag well I do the same in 3 gun comps. Better control of muzzle rise.
 

Zebo

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I would assume one wouldn't generally hold the mag when shooting. The left hand is usually further up the gun to control recoil.

If someone were to break into my place they have violated every law of respect I abide by, so I would pull the trigger first. Of course this is assuming I am sure they are a home invader. I'm not gonna run around pre-firing corners or anything haha.

Just the opposite as you can pull mag well down towards body. This tension stops muzzle rise in rapid fire.

Some guys use a foregrip which works even better for this tension but more exposure too and target acquisition takes longer.
 
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Firsttime

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Just the opposite as you can pull mag well down towards body. This tension stops muzzle rise in rapid fire.

Ok, so is this because you can brace it better? I mean I can see your point. The only auto I've ever fired is an MP5 and it wasn't very hard to control the recoil, it just seems holding further out on the barrel would give you more leverage on it.
 

TallBill

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I am as conservative as they get up here in Canada.
If you want to see a liberal see Denilfloss. Your brand of tea baggers american conservatism is a joke and is despised in the rest of the world.
I don't know why you have to resort to so much foul language but you got warned in the past and may very well get more warning if you keep this up.

Haha, I'm too busy drinking and fucking away my life to actually care about politics or canadians.

I would assume one wouldn't generally hold the mag when shooting. The left hand is usually further up the gun to control recoil.

If someone were to break into my place they have violated every law of respect I abide by, so I would pull the trigger first. Of course this is assuming I am sure they are a home invader. I'm not gonna run around pre-firing corners or anything haha.

Eh, I like holding the mag well, no reason not to. I prefer it over a forward vertical grip.


Lots of trained killers on this board. I hope any would-be home invaders read this so they know what they're getting into.

That's the point of a gun, it's the equalizer. And if all homes had one with owners willing to use them then yes it would be a great deterrent to criminals. That's the point
 

TallBill

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Ok, so is this because you can brace it better? I mean I can see your point. The only auto I've ever fired is an MP5 and it wasn't very hard to control the recoil, it just seems holding further out on the barrel would give you more leverage on it.

Yes, pulling the mag well into your body is probably more effective than using the actual hand grips.
 

Zebo

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Ok, so is this because you can brace it better? I mean I can see your point. The only auto I've ever fired is an MP5 and it wasn't very hard to control the recoil, it just seems holding further out on the barrel would give you more leverage on it.

There is personal preference too. But in general a tactical stance should minimize your organs to exposure and go for optional control of weapon at same time. Notice how his arms are tucked in, no chicken winging there. This protects his heart and lungs. Extending arm out to fore-end exposes your center of mass more as elbow and forearm can no longer protect it. Also there is target acquisition on moving or multiple target. Try holding arms out and turning vs arms at chest and turning your body - much faster to do later. Same principle applies when holding a rifle. It's faster closer appendages are to COM.
 

BudAshes

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Haha, I'm too busy drinking and fucking away my life to actually care about politics or canadians.



Eh, I like holding the mag well, no reason not to. I prefer it over a forward vertical grip.




That's the point of a gun, it's the equalizer. And if all homes had one with owners willing to use them then yes it would be a great deterrent to criminals. That's the point

Except that most break in's occur when the people are gone. Then the criminal steals the guns and profits.
 

Jschmuck2

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That's the point of a gun, it's the equalizer. And if all homes had one with owners willing to use them then yes it would be a great deterrent to criminals. That's the point

I understand that. I'm just amused at how willing many of the Keyboard RAMbos are on these boards to kill somebody. I would imagine everyone would prefer not to kill someone if they could avoid it but hey, I'm just a Hollywood lib'ruhl
 
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If you announce you're armed, then maybe they'll run away and you won't have to kill somebody.

Sweet! So if that works they go victimize someone weaker than you who can't defend themselves and if it doesn't they get a 50/50 chance to kill/rape/eat you.

That's some good police work there Lou.
 

Zebo

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I understand that. I'm just amused at how willing many of the Keyboard RAMbos on these boards. I would imagine everyone would prefer not to kill someone if they could avoid it but hey, I'm just a Hollywood lib'ruhl

I'm sure they would. Just boys banter. Guys I know hunt with and shoot with some real killers from sand box would avoid it if possible. The basic theme is 'fear for your life.'
 
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KeypoX

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fuck that shit.
if you break into my house, you are getting shot without me saying a damn thing.

because some have brains. Maybe its a friend or a family member.

Guess this is why most firearm shootings are 'accidental'
 

Zargon

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Except that most break in's occur when the people are gone. Then the criminal steals the guns and profits.


99.999999% of criminals that break into my hosue for my xbox computer whatever

are doubtfully getting into my giant ass safe

where my glock sleeps when I am not home
 

TallBill

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because some have brains. Maybe its a friend or a family member.

Guess this is why most firearm shootings are 'accidental'

If someone is smashing windows/doors to gain entry into my house, there is a good chance that they have negative intentions. Anyways, not everyone just shoots at shadows.

I will never visit any of you psychos at home.

If you act in real life like you do online you wouldn't be invited anyways, we don't allow cockbags in our apartment.

I understand that. I'm just amused at how willing many of the Keyboard RAMbos are on these boards to kill somebody. I would imagine everyone would prefer not to kill someone if they could avoid it but hey, I'm just a Hollywood lib'ruhl

I agree, killing someone would be terrible. I'd do it without thinking, but I don't think that it's something that you can just completely ignore. It wont necessarily make you loony, but it can't be a good thing.
 

shortylickens

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I didnt read the thread.
Based on the title I assumed the OP was trolling. Based on the number of posts I assumed this turned into a flame fest.

Was I right?
 

surfsatwerk

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If you act in real life like you do online you wouldn't be invited anyways, we don't allow cockbags in our apartment.

In RL mi casa es su casa. My roomate and I almost never lock the door and we have friends family coming and going at all hours. Good thing I'm not a gun nut or I'd have to cower next to my gun all day long like the clowns in this thread.
 
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