why does everyone like the opteron processor?

PSUstoekl

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I'm simply inquiring as to how and why one would choose to use the Opteron Processor over any other. It is a server processor, is it not? So why would one need it for non-server tasks? Does it handle dual-core things better? Or simply a better OC'er?

Just wondering what you guys think.
 

thecoolnessrune

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It just simply overclocks the best. Most people really dont care whether its server oriented or not. I'm sure its just a temporary thing. Just like the Venice E3. They will eventually introduce a stepping that sucks (like the E6 Venice). In fact the first few that were made did great. Getting 3.0 Ghz easy. But we are already seeing chips that have a hard time hitting 2.7. So this won't last long. The E3 Venice did great getting 2.8 Ghz easy. But not people have trouble even hitting 2.4. (2.4 used to be a given on E3 Venices). While this is all great for now, the 3800+ X2 will become champ again probably soon. (Unless AMD screws that one too with a bad stepping)
 

Sonikku

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Why does AMD always reduce the overclocking capacity of their chips over time? You would think it would be nice selling point. (Not to mention if the chip gets fried after OC'ing that AMD is not liable)
 

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Somebody told me once that as a stepping matures, the screening process also matures. Less room for error is necessary and, consequently less fast CPUs hit the slow bin.

I have absolutely no idea if this is correct or not, but it always seemed to reach me on an intuitive level.

-Sid
 

thecrecarc

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becaue pertons rock just as much at non erver junk. and its great for the prce. and its even better when overclocked.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: thecrecarc
becaue pertons rock just as much at non erver junk. and its great for the prce. and its even better when overclocked.

I've heard they mess up your keyboard though and some letters only work intermittently.
 

thecrecarc

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
becaue pertons rock just as much at non erver junk. and its great for the prce. and its even better when overclocked.

I've heard they mess up your keyboard though and some letters only work intermittently.

maby.... but i herd it was for the althon xp.. thats what im on
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
becaue pertons rock just as much at non erver junk. and its great for the prce. and its even better when overclocked.

I've heard they mess up your keyboard though and some letters only work intermittently.

maby.... but i herd it was for the althon xp.. thats what im on

Guess it's the whole AMD lineup then.
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
becaue pertons rock just as much at non erver junk. and its great for the prce. and its even better when overclocked.

I've heard they mess up your keyboard though and some letters only work intermittently.

maby.... but i herd it was for the althon xp.. thats what im on

Guess it's the whole AMD lineup then.

Don't torment the newbs.
 

Varun

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Originally posted by: PSUstoekl
I'm simply inquiring as to how and why one would choose to use the Opteron Processor over any other. It is a server processor, is it not? So why would one need it for non-server tasks? Does it handle dual-core things better? Or simply a better OC'er?

Just wondering what you guys think.

The Opteron is identical the the Athlon 64 internals. The nice thing about the Opteron is that even at low clock speeds, it has the 1MB cache. To get an A64 with a 1MB cache in S939 you have to get the 3700+ San Diego.

Why are they server processors you ask? Well, they are tested far more than the A64 chips for quality, and other than the cache that's about the only difference.

They used to be server only because they were only S940, but now they have released them on S939. Odds are, they are more hand picked than the regular A64, hence the better overclocks.

In the x86 world, there isn't any processor that is a "server" processor, just chips designed to work better in servers like the Xeon (P4 with more cache) and the Opteron (A64 with more cache sometimes)
 
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