Why does everyone love Reagan so much?

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88keys

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Reagan was way overrated and not very intelligent, and perhaps one of the worst presidents in the last 30 years. I say this because he is essentially the father of the neo-conservative movement (which you could almost call 'diet fascism'). Reagen really wasn't THAT conservative. He might have played the part well and many have been fooled by it, but people look into the past with rose colored glasses. I think of him as the Bill Clinton of the right in some ways. Remembered fondly, but hardly worthy of the reputation. To be completely fair, Reagen and Clinton along with every other president since 1981 are far more alike than they are different policy-wise which is why many of his policies continue to this day.


Reagen is basically the anti-FDR.
 

Indus

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I think another thing that helped him was the fact that he completed two terms. It had been a while that Americans had seen a stable 8 year presidency. Since Kennedy had a sad ending, LBJ started Vietnam, Nixon had Agnew and himself resign, Ford was just an interim and Carter had Iran hostages.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Reagan was a traitor. He sold weapons to our enemy. Any positive actions pale next to that. He should be dug up and reburied in an unmarked grave.
 

thraashman

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Your so wrong.
Point of advice, if you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you should spell all words correctly. Especially in a post that totals three words.

Reagan was a traitor. He sold weapons to our enemy. Any positive actions pale next to that. He should be dug up and reburied in an unmarked grave.

Conservatives love a traitor, there's a reason Tom Cotton got so many people to go along with his treason.
 

wirelessenabled

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Reagan was a traitor. He sold weapons to our enemy. Any positive actions pale next to that. He should be dug up and reburied in an unmarked grave.

Even worse than that.

He sold arms to our enemy and then took the money and used it to fund the death squads in Central America, an action that had been specifically forbidden by Congress.
 

Jhhnn

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Even worse than that.

He sold arms to our enemy and then took the money and used it to fund the death squads in Central America, an action that had been specifically forbidden by Congress.

And somehow couldn't recall any of it. Congress was very kind to him at the time & let him slide. Several of his minions were convicted, never rolled over, never did any time & were either the recipients of favorable technicalities or ultimately pardoned by GHWB, iirc.

One of them, John Poindexter, did a brief stint for the GWB Admin to help set up this lovely program-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Ollie North is a celebrity on the Right, of course, the same folks who are always ready to cheer for law & order. It's airtight compartmentalization, that's for sure.
 

trenchfoot

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And somehow couldn't recall any of it. Congress was very kind to him at the time & let him slide. Several of his minions were convicted, never rolled over, never did any time & were either the recipients of favorable technicalities or ultimately pardoned by GHWB, iirc.

One of them, John Poindexter, did a brief stint for the GWB Admin to help set up this lovely program-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Ollie North is a celebrity on the Right, of course, the same folks who are always ready to cheer for law & order. It's airtight compartmentalization, that's for sure.

But you see, if the Repubs have to give up Saint Reagan as their shepherd and shining light toward the path to trickle down Valhalla, they're going to have to fall back on guys like Bush 43, Cheney, or conservative luminaries like Rush Limbaugh, McCain, or....well, you see what I mean I'm sure.
 

Sonikku

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What's funny is that if any candidate ran with identical policy stances as Reagan today, they would probably be labeled as being either too liberal or not conservative enough.
 

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He was a great leader during a very, very difficult time. If you lived through Ford's and Carter's misery index insanity (as an adult)...you would know this is a significant reason why he is so revered.

 

kia75

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Doc Savage is correct. Anyone watch CNN's "The 70's"? The 70's were a HORRIBLE time for America. The USA lost the Vietnam war, President Nixon would have been in federal prison if Ford hadn't pardoned him, inflation, rising crime, fuel shortages, cult killers like The Manson family, serial killers like Son of Sam, children abducted raped and killed, the 70's were a bad time to be an American. There was this idea that compared to the past the USA had lost esteem in the world.

Reagan came in and made it OK to be proud of your country again. His morning in America told people that the worst had passed and now good things were coming America's way. After the horrible 70's people were ready for a hopeful message. IMO, Reagan was a bad president, but he was media-savvy and told America what it needed to hear. The USA is great, and it's going to get greater so be proud of the red white and blue!
 

sm625

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Reagan did his job well. His job was to further enrich the rich, and deepen the stranglehold of the globalists. Reagan was responsible for getting daddy Bush out of the basement of the CIA and into the white house. For that, his legacy was rewarded with a lavish dose of historical revisionism.
 

senseamp

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He was a great leader during a very, very difficult time. If you lived through Ford's and Carter's misery index insanity (as an adult)...you would know this is a significant reason why he is so revered.



Reagan was in the right place when interest rates fell by 8%. But it's hard for average folks to revere Paul Volcker (appointed by Jimmy Carter).
 
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Reagan did his job well. His job was to further enrich the rich, and deepen the stranglehold of the globalists. Reagan was responsible for getting daddy Bush out of the basement of the CIA and into the white house. For that, his legacy was rewarded with a lavish dose of historical revisionism.
So you're going to blame Reagan for this? Specifically, tell me exactly how he pulled this off.

 

trenchfoot

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Well I don't hate him. I actually felt sorry for him. I actually pitied him. I actually laughed my ass off at him many many times the same way I laughed at him when I watched him in the movies he was in. He was such an accomplished actor that he never won nor was ever nominated for an Academy Award. I had the same reflexive action watching him deliver his State of the Union addresses as I did the first time I saw a dog eating its own feces because his delivery was so bad.

However, I do compliment him on being as good a president as he was an actor. /s
 
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who?

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I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh in years but he used to say that his rich friends hated Reagan because his elimination of tax loopholes in 1986 made them pay more dollars in taxes even though their rate had been lowered.
 

TheGardener

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People love Reagan because he was the only president in the last 50 years that wasn't a douche.
 
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