Why does Final Fantasy 8+ suck so hard?

[lamedude]

Luckily the PSP ports deliver that Soundmanred. Looking on FF wikia the concept art is usually spot on with the in game sprite.

 

[Silver Prime]

It can't be erased because of this:


The Mod has spoken.

lol, No matter, another reason was I asked to close it, is because I moved it to a different area, where bias stalking mods have no say, at-least there I can give the Kodiak a proper berial in the hypothetical debate realm, showing how much the web bullshits there way into convincing brainless zombies to follow the colt of the already dead hitler...

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144938

Thanks to some of you idiot trolls, you gave me the needed fire to continue the search for the truth, and I must thank you'z dummys, since you all lead me into finding 2 more accounts of lions dis-patcing north american grizzlys.

Thanks

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Luckily the PSP ports deliver that Soundmanred. Looking on FF wikia the concept art is usually spot on with the in game sprite.

Ive been playing FF 1 Anniversary for PSP with emulator, and I LOVE what they did with the graphics... Everything looks so detailed, yet, they kept the exact same feel the previous versions had (mostly Origins which was already a remake)

I vastly prefer this "modern" 2d, then the crappy 3D versions of 3 and 4 on the DS
Blocky 3d visuals with low textures just dont age well (same reason FF7 looks absolutely awful nowadays)

Anyway, on topic, I am one of the people who love FF8
I just dont get why everyone is so fixated on "OMG SQUALL IS EMO"
FF8 had awesome gameplay, and was the first in the series to have interactive limit breaks, which made them so much fun to use (especially Irvine and Zell's)

I wasnt a particular fan of the drawing system, but the junction system was great, since it let you personalize the character however you wanted... You could have a 9999 hp Squall in early levels just by having good magic attached to his HP, plus a bunch of +HP% from GFs

Plus, the card game was addictive as hell unlike what some people here my claim, so much so tons of people are asking for a card game as a side thing in FF14

In terms of overall content though, FFX is far and away the best in the series... There was so much stuff to do in that game, particularly in the international version... Getting all the ultimate weapons, powering them up, filling up all your sphere grid for max stats, defeating all the arena creations, and then all the dark aeons + penance, which were some of the hardest bosses in the series

I dont really have an absolute favorite though... All of them are great in their own ways (up to 10... 10-2 is where things started to get ugly)

 

[Agent11]

I really enjoyed the materia system in 7. Would be nice if they brought it back.

 

[Silver Prime]

Ive been playing FF 1 Anniversary for PSP with emulator, and I LOVE what they did with the graphics... Everything looks so detailed, yet, they kept the exact same feel the previous versions had (mostly Origins which was already a remake)

WTF? I wanna play it. Played my Nes a few years ago, and got a kick out of it, but couldn't get to far on the incredibly slow'd down time frame I have now with those type of games, got pretty far, but didn't have enough time to get to there higher forms.

I vastly prefer this "modern" 2d, then the crappy 3D versions of 3 and 4 on the DS
Blocky 3d visuals with low textures just dont age well (same reason FF7 looks absolutely awful nowadays)

Totally agree, some of the 2d games were longer lasting over the years of dipping in and out of FF games, and 7 was epic at the time, but looking back at it, it looks horible, I rather play 2 or 6 then 7, 8 is a no-brainer any time of the day, year or decade, it holds up well every time I play'd it.

Anyway, on topic, I am one of the people who love FF8
I just dont get why everyone is so fixated on "OMG SQUALL IS EMO"
FF8 had awesome gameplay, and was the first in the series to have interactive limit breaks, which made them so much fun to use (especially Irvine and Zell's)

I wasnt a particular fan of the drawing system, but the junction system was great, since it let you personalize the character however you wanted... You could have a 9999 hp Squall in early levels just by having good magic attached to his HP, plus a bunch of +HP% from GFs

Plus, the card game was addictive as hell unlike what some people here my claim, so much so tons of people are asking for a card game as a side thing in FF14

-Limit breaks +
-Junction + + + +
-Draw system +100
-Card game +^^^1,000


I hear all day long FF7 deserves a remake, and all this cry-baby jazz of , why, why, why wheres 7's remake,

Conan the Barbarian: The hell with 7 !!!

7 Had a movie, anime, manga, sprouted out other franchises, had the dam nerve to show up on possibly my most favorite FF game FF(T), and tons more other games 7's carppy line up branched too, getting worse and worse, and once advent children had a change of nationality, white super stud; to tecno dancing, light n glow raving-looking korean, I droped ff7 all at once.

If any game deserves a remake or like FFX is getting HD it should be FF8, but I don't like remakes all that much as I prefer sequels, if Square enix was smart, since they came so far, they should start from 1, and make a sequel for each FF game, that would bring in some insane cash since all the true fas would come back, and since it will ditch the animie looking crap like FF13 emits.

In terms of overall content though, FFX is far and away the best in the series... There was so much stuff to do in that game, particularly in the international version... Getting all the ultimate weapons, powering them up, filling up all your sphere grid for max stats, defeating all the arena creations, and then all the dark aeons + penance, which were some of the hardest bosses in the series

10 was good, and I didn't even know you had to charge the weapons until you just stated it, so when it gets its HD make over I'm looking foward for some Blitz ball and beating the Luca aurocs for the first time, and getting there weapons charged for the first time as well.

I dont really have an absolute favorite though... All of them are great in their own ways (up to 10... 10-2 is where things started to get ugly)

yeah I don't think it should be fair in some sense to pick a favy, they are all good in there own era, and I'm glad I was able to play each one over the years in order...really gotta get my hands later on some star ocean, the one where a guy had dragons on his back, and in the beggining you had like probably the most powerfullest gun on the game, until he loses it. lol

haven't played that one in like 10 years...(Sigh) -_-

 

[exdeath]

If any Square game deserves a remake, its Xenogears.

Final Fantasy IV/II (US) is my favorite of the series, but Xenogears' story just takes it to a whole new pedestal where it pretty much sits by itself. That game is DEEP.

 

[smackababy]

If any Square game deserves a remake, its Xenogears.

Final Fantasy IV/II (US) is my favorite of the series, but Xenogears' story just takes it to a whole new pedestal where it pretty much sits by itself. That game is DEEP.

I've love a Chrono Trigger remake. They don't even have to do anything but use HD sprites and I'd pay $60.

 

[gorb]

ff8 is awesome

 

[exdeath]

I've love a Chrono Trigger remake. They don't even have to do anything but use HD sprites and I'd pay $60.

Exactly. Chrono Trigger was already perfect and has been ported countless times.

Xenogears on the other hand was rushed towards the end of development and never really completed.

And the presentation medium at the time (PS1, CD) was not adequate for the massive scale and scope of Xenogears.

 

[Pottuvoi]

I've love a Chrono Trigger remake. They don't even have to do anything but use HD sprites and I'd pay $60.

Properly remastered soundtrack would be nice too.

 

[magomago]

Exactly. Chrono Trigger was already perfect and has been ported countless times.

Xenogears on the other hand was rushed towards the end of development and never really completed.

And the presentation medium at the time (PS1, CD) was not adequate for the massive scale and scope of Xenogears.

If the exact same game was released with HD sprites, it wouldn't sell for 60 dollars because people would complain it was a cheap money grab. Even for the PS1 and the DS, they added new content/videos to Chrono Trigger.

As for Xenogears, the whole game basically resided on Disc 1; Disc 2 didn't have that much content, and considering it was just a TWO cd game, I'd argue that the PS1 was able to deal with the scope of the Game. Remember, FF7/8/9 were on FOUR discs.
This argument might better fit FF8, which had a Disc#4 just to manage all of the FMVs and videos for the ending; this also resulted in a loss of access to pretty much everywhere once you transitioned from Disc3 to Disc4.

 

[KlokWyze]

My favorite was XII (12). It was definitely a different game than the previous ones, with a heavily political storyline. Battle system was among my favorite for any RPG title.

In addition, I also played Crises Core (prequel to FF VII) and it was pretty decent. Was disappointed fighting Sephiroth though. I spent a ton of time grinding for what I thought would be a difficult fight, only to find him about on par with the average storyline boss. :/

12 was great besides the fact that they never finished it. The final dungeon is just the same texture copied & pasted into a monstrous 6 hour load of shit.

8 was the last "totally solid" one.

 

[supermag24]

Man, a lot of you guys and gals sound like Final Fantasy 8+ Haters. Why not just name the thread "We hate Enix, We wish Square would get a divorce"

 

[Sulaco]

Man, a lot of you guys and gals sound like Final Fantasy 8+ Haters. Why not just name the thread "We hate Enix, We wish Square would get a divorce"

Are you drunk? You realize the Squae-Enix merger did not take place until 2003, right? Well after the release of FF8, 9, and 10.

It has nothing to do with Enix.

 

[Subyman]

Maybe because the OP left puberty before FF8 came out? Nostalgia is a bitch, it ruins everything we play after childhood.

 

[Sulaco]

Maybe because the OP left puberty before FF8 came out? Nostalgia is a bitch, it ruins everything we play after childhood.

Meh...I'm not so sure if nostalgia is the cause.


I played them both within a week of their launches. I still remember to this day , after playing FF8 for about a week totally hating it. It didn't hold a candle to VII. Being only two years removed from FF7, I know nostalgia had nothing to do with it.

On the flipside, I didn't play FF6 until well into the 2000s (2003 I think), and had no nostalgic attachment to it, and immediately realized it was FAR superior to the 32-bit+ Final Fantasy games.

That's the beauty of RPGs. Great stories and characters (and music!) are, for the most part, timeless. Battle systems and crap will change, but the great stories and characters are always good no matter how much time passes.

 

[piasabird]

I liked ff10 + 12. I played another version in Nintendo with Kain. Don't know what that version is. On some consoles the early versions were different.

Jump Kain, Jump!

I also like Fable II.

 

[exdeath]

I liked ff10 + 12. I played another version in Nintendo with Kain. Don't know what that version is. On some consoles the early versions were different.

Jump Kain, Jump!

I also like Fable II.

Kain is FFII in the US, or correctly known as IV. Cecil, Kain, Rosa, Edward, Tellah, Rydia, Palom, Porom, Edge, Yang, Golbez, etc

One of the best. It was my #1 favorite game for almost two decades until narrowly dethroned by Xenogears.

III/VI is great too, but IV is just classic tragedy and good vs evil.

 

[Aikouka]

Jump Kain, Jump!

Heh... that quote instantly pops into my head if I start listening to the Final Fantasy IV boss battle music.

I also like Fable II.

You know what bugged me the most about Fable II? The darn jumping animation -- it looked awful! I also thought the story took a bit of a nosedive later in the game, but as a single player game, it was actually not bad at all. Now, I underlined that bit, because the co-op play in Fable II was dreadfully bad. Fable III finally righted that wrong, but the rest of the game seemed to suffer compared to its predecessor. :\

 

[Silver Prime]

Man, a lot of you guys and gals sound like Final Fantasy 8+ Haters. Why not just name the thread "We hate Enix, We wish Square would get a divorce"

7 Was good, but it was propelled by the best and largest sales tactics any FF game had, they also commented recently that they will only remake FF7 if any other FF beats it in sales...thats plain old retarded.

FF7 had, multiple movies, anime, manga, spin offs via tactics, cirsiscore, ect. Give any Final fantasy one of each of those and it will double the sales...as FF8 still trailed FF7 close only a minor 2 million behind even without all those gimmicks. Theres hundreds of blogs and forums of fanboys claiming the ff7 world would be to massive to re-make, lol 100s of games per year have worlds 10x larger, more side-quest's, more puzzles, longer storys than FF7, and they are made out of thin air, clouds world is already existing all it would need is to remake them in better detail.


FF7 beat even ocarina of time in sales, yet OOT still had almost every major gaming magazine ranked it higher.

 

[Mopetar]

FF7 beat even ocarina of time in sales, yet OOT still had almost every major gaming magazine ranked it higher.

They were on different platforms and the PS1 had a much larger install base so that's not a good comparison.

 

[Garay002]

FFVIII and IX were amazing!

 

[Silver Prime]

They were on different platforms and the PS1 had a much larger install base so that's not a good comparison.

Just saying... quanity doesnt equal quality. FF7 had a larger scale of production in terms sales tactics, if FF8 had a movie and anime, it would have been more inter-active and pull in more people, if FF8 had spin offs there would have been a deeper connection between story and players, more alternatives will route more people to the initial game...FF8 beat 7 in almost all the above in terms quality. The creator of FF7 needs to wake up and stop acting like it was purely the game that got it the top sales...

-Movies would cater a 20% increase in sales for any game. (look at pokemon)
-Spin offs atleast 5% wanting more/routing to the original installment.
-Anime/manga another 5%
-Along with the largest sales market there was for any FF adding in 15%


On those statistics, anyway you cut it FF8 would have trumped 7, if you was to give that 45% increasage in gimmicks to FF8, than 8 would have sold atleast 12 million +, or take away FF7 45% gimmicks and 7 would have only sold near the high end of 6 million.

 

[Silver Prime]

I call it as:

Tactics>8>6>2>10>7>4>9>5>3>1>13.

 

[shortylickens]

OK?

Why the big necro?