Why does Israel need settlements in the West Bank?

[Jaepheth]

Because they need to be in every bank?

 

[Lemon law]

A few more pieces of Israeli bad news.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...-review-of-gas-contracts-with-israel-1.355796

As Egypt gives Israel official notice it will not continue the Mubarak practice of Selling Israel natural gas at way below market prices. Of course Israel does not have to buy there gas from Egypt, but since no one else will sell them gas at way below market prices, it gonna cost Israel some 3 to four billion extra a year.

Then Israel's foreign minister, all around Settler party crazy, and the leader of a powerful political block who can bring down the Netanyuhu government is widely expected to get indicted by Israel today. Breech of trust, money laundering, and fraud.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/nationa...y-face-fraud-charges-pending-hearing-1.355784

Basically if Lieberman is indicted in a day or two, Lieberman can request a formal hearing to contest the charges, and failing that, his actual arrest and prosecution is likely to follow as the charges make there slow way through the Israeli judicial mill. But I wonder if Lieberman can continue to serve in the Israeli cabinet. As he contemplatives some serious Israeli jail time as his probable end.

 

[werepossum]

It sounds more like Hamas is in need of convincing.

Hamas is divided, with some factions believing the plan can help them kill Jews and most factions thinking they can kill Jews more efficiently and safely under the current conditions.

 

[JS80]

Because they need to be in every bank?

lol 9/10

 

[Vic Vega]

Why can't Israel simply agree to stop settlements altogether? What purpose do they serve? From what I've read, it's just another major source of unnecessary violence. Just stop the settlements, let Palestine become its own state like the UN wants, and then no one will have any moral excuse for rockets fired at Israel. And hopefully it will change the conversation for the better.

You need to move out of your house. Your presence there offends me and will cause violence. Any violence which happens is your fault. Leave at once, you have no right to be there.

 

[QuantumPion]

Because they need to be in every bank?

That's it! I'll see you in court! :awe:

 

[Nebor]

since no one else will sell them gas at way below market prices, it gonna cost Israel some 3 to four billion extra a year.

:\ That's kind of a setback for us Americans, as we just passed a bunch of spending cuts. Don't the Egyptians realize they're hurting their American friends by raising the prices?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

There's no such thing as a palestinian. They are arabs living on land that no longer belongs to them.

Simply put, if it wasn't for the pussies in America, every "palastinian" would be dead.
Israel was given their homeland. After all, the Jews settled that area before the arabs(persians). The arabs(persians) conquered the area.
So if you want to be nit picky about giving people their land back, that's been done. The Jews where there first.

Giving anything to the "Palastinians" would be a waste. They don't want to fix anything or do anything useful. At least Israel gives something to the world.
Anyone here want's to say they don't better not be using an Intel computer.

 

[tommo123]

if you want to give people their land back, how about letting the indians have theirs, they were there first

 

[Steeplerot]

Anyone here want's to say they don't better not be using an Intel computer.

Even more reason to boycott Intel and the fundamentalist government of Israel.

 

[Lemon law]

The establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was supposed to solve a big Hitler caused Jewish refugee crisis.

And in spite of Ben Gurion 1948 Israeli promises, the State of Israel became the new Nazis, and now we have a intractable Palestinian refugee crisis. And until we have a Palestinian State, the larger world have not solved any mid-east problems in 63 years.

But come September of 2011, the UN is almost certain to approve that Palestinians State. Meanwhile Bozo Netanyuhu and his crazed Settler party supporters go la la la, in absolute denial.

In short, Israel could have had a really excellent deal with the already almost complete Olmert Abbas deal, but since the Bozo Netanyuhu will fall come 9/2011, the UN drawn Palestinian State borders without an Israeli voice will almost certainly be worse for Israel.

And once there is a Palestinian State, the Israeli military will ALL have to get the hell out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. And the Palestinian State will be the deciders of policy. Maybe leaving Hamas and Gaza in temporary Limbo, but they will probably soon vote to rejoin Fatah, leaving the crazed Israeli settlers who gambled on settling on disputed land as the only parties in total Limbo.

 

[Abwx]

At least Israel gives something to the world.
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Lol....Yes , they give him one more fascist and racist state..

Indeed, to make confusion between persians and arabs ,
one should be close to illiteracy...

Other than that , keep on disseminating your junky mental illness...

Ha, and don t forget your bucket of prozac....

 

[JS80]

Lol....Yes , they give him one more fascist and racist state..

Indeed, to make confusion between persians and arabs ,
one should be close to illiteracy...

Other than that , keep on disseminating your junky mental illness...

If you think the state of Israel is racist/fascist, I wonder how you feel about Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.

 

[Abwx]

If you think the state of Israel is racist/fascist, I wonder how you feel about Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.

Indeed, they are for most part fascist states to many degrees,
the only difference with israel is that this latter s policy
is backed by the people, while in the neighboring states,
the regimes don t give any choice to their peoples...

 

[Harabec]

Lemon Law spews his usual trash about how we evil Israelis want to grab the gigantic continent called "palestine" to ourselves and that we're gassing those poor palestinians.

The simple truth is that we'd be glad to be out of the west bank
No one knows what will happen in the future, I bet Netanyahu wil eventually settle on agreeing with the rest of the UN - everyone knows its inevitable and it is in our interest anyway.

What interests me is the people themselves, on this forum, spending such a large amount of time on a single subject while neglecting others (*caugh* syria mass-killing its citizens 300 miles from here, hello? *caugh*).
Well, if that's what floats your boats

 

[JS80]

Indeed, they are for most part fascist states to many degrees,
the only difference with israel is that this latter s policy
is backed by the people, while in the neighboring states,
the regimes don t give any choice to their peoples...

lol are you not witnessing the chaos of arab street when the dictator is toppled? They are more racist/fascist than the dictators that suppress them.

 

[Abwx]

lol are you not witnessing the chaos of arab street when the dictator is toppled? They are more racist/fascist than the dictators that suppress them.

Yet, the jews did live in the muslim califates , as in spain
when they were chased later by the spaniard cristians...
Indeed, the turkish sultan did send its navy to save
350 000 of them by transferring them to turkey and
muslims lands...

Don t bother, you ll find no trace of glory in your nation
existence through 2000 years....



Censored in the US , land of "freedom and democracy" :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7x...e-censure_news

 

[shortylickens]

I swear Isreal is the troll of countries.

 

[Lemon law]

As the Harabec contention without a single we I can see says, "The simple truth is that we'd be glad to be out of the west bank
No one knows what will happen in the future, I bet Netanyahu wil eventually settle on agreeing with the rest of the UN - everyone knows its inevitable and it is in our interest anyway."

So tell us again how you speak for everyone in Israel Harabec. But funny thing, your Bozo Netanyuhu does not seem to agree with you as he vaingloriously pretends the Israeli jig is not finally up.

Yet in all due respects, Harabec asks another very good question, namely, "What interests me is the people themselves, on this forum, spending such a large amount of time on a single subject while neglecting others (*caugh* syria mass-killing its citizens 300 miles from here, hello? *caugh*).
Well, if that's what floats your boats."

And oddly enough I totally agree with you, two rotten mid-east Arab dictators have already fallen, Libya is likely next, as a new doctrine is seemingly sweeping the entire Arab Mid-east. Fool dictators who use their military might violence to suppress internal dissent will simply have to go. Syria is now high on the list, so is Yemen and other Arab nations.

But cheer up Harabec, Israel won't be the lone ranger in nations dope slapped. Its all part of changes long overdue, as the world keeps on a changing hopefully for the better.

 

[woolfe9999]

The establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was supposed to solve a big Hitler caused Jewish refugee crisis.

And in spite of Ben Gurion 1948 Israeli promises, the State of Israel became the new Nazis, and now we have a intractable Palestinian refugee crisis. And until we have a Palestinian State, the larger world have not solved any mid-east problems in 63 years.

Serious question: if the State of Israel is analogous to the Nazi regime, what other regimes in the world since 1945 would you make that comparison to? If the answer is none, then you are implying that Israel is the most evil regime on the planet earth since the fall of the Nazis. So let's hear your answer please.
- wolf

 

[EagleKeeper]

What happens when attacks are launched from the West Bank of Gaza against Israel once there is a Palestinian state.

Is Israel expected to sit and take it?

You know the UN will not do anything.

 

[Lemon law]

Serious question: if the State of Israel is analogous to the Nazi regime, what other regimes in the world since 1945 would you make that comparison to? If the answer is none, then you are implying that Israel is the most evil regime on the planet earth since the fall of the Nazis. So let's hear your answer please.
- wolf

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In terms of being evil in an Apartheid sort of way, yes Israel is rotten to the core, but if we look at other evil criteria, there are many nations equally or more so evil.

How does the world decide, to some extent, after a 44 year too long military occupation on disputed land, and endless Israeli stalling, Israel has finally worked its way up to the top of the priority list. And if a few rotten Arab governments go in the process, there is a better hope for the entire mid-east. As it is, Israel blew all their world credibility at the Annapolis peace conference. And now Netanyuhu adds injury to insult by telling Obama they will not stop settling on land they can never own.

Hope that explains it to you woolfe, Israeli Apartheid is inherently evil. Once the world solves Israeli apartheid, the larger world can go on to solving other problems.

As the woolfie contention is the last refuge of scoundrels, as Israeli bank robbers say, surely you must stop bigger rascals than Israeli first, and thus never get around to dope slapping Israeli thievery. And when every Nation on earth, including the USA told Israel in 2010 they better straighten up their act, woolfie just misses the message.

 

[QuantumPion]

I swear Isreal is the troll of countries.

No they are the troll feeders. The trolls are the ones who purposely put their civilians in harms way and use them as human shields while shooting rockets at cities so that they can cry to the gullible world community about how evil the Jews are when they come to defend themselves.

 

[Lemon law]

No they are the troll feeders. The trolls are the ones who purposely put their civilians in harms way and use them as human shields while shooting rockets at cities so that they can cry to the gullible world community about how evil the Jews are when they come to defend themselves.

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No ole QP is simply asking the whole what came first the chicken or the egg question yet again. Is Israel simply defending themselves from senseless violence or is Israel catching violence because they stole all the Palestinian land.

But who cares what QP or LL say, the world jury is in, and by 9/2011, Israel has to give the land its tried to retain for 44 years back to form a Palestinian State.

Ole QP can call very nation on earth other than Israel a troll until he is blue in the face, rather than face the facts.

As the more rational among us can hope that once tit for tat violence can't buy any gains,
we might finally have some mid-east peace.

As they say, war is hell, and tit for tat violence is hardly any better.

 

[nusyo]

unless you'll have terrorists blow up buses full of people like it happens in Israel, and fire tens of rockets at your cities you'll never understand.

btw are u guys limiting yourselves to only mass media (cnn, abc cbs, fox etc?) there is a lot of stuff going on unreported by mass media