why does Onboard Video suck?

[dyslexsick]

ive been reading different posts and everyone agrees that mobo integrated video sucks. with mine im getting 100 frames per second so i cant justify getting a video card. also Counter Strike is the only game i play im not a big gamer.

why is it your opinion that onboard video sucks? is there something besides the FPS that i should be concerned about?



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[Jumpem]

The Geforce MX is towards the bottom of the current graphics pile. It'll get nowhere near the fps of a decent card.

 

[petery83]

one reason's because onboard video typically uses shared memory (RAM) instead of having it's own memory to operate from, which means it's a lot slower.

 

[Snoop]

The onboard video of the Nforce chipset does not suck when you compare it to other onboard solutions, especially Intel Xtreme graphics. I have built more than a few systems with the nforce integrated video and it performs nicely for people who do not game much.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: petery83
one reason's because onboard video typically uses shared memory (RAM) instead of having it's own memory to operate from, which means it's a lot slower.

Thats why. Shared memory the latency from the video card to main memory is very high. Also the memory bandwidth needed to feed hungry GPU's is severly limited.

 

[DaveSimmons]

also Counter Strike is the only game i play im not a big gamer.

Yes, onboard nforce video works well for playing a mod for a five year old game

If you wanted to play more recent games and at 1024x768 you'd find out very quickly how limited your onboard video is

But until then don't worry about it, your video is fine for what you're doing.

 

[Cygni]

Onboard video sucks for certain uses, such as CAD or Gaming.... but for other uses, such as simple websurfing, it is preferable to a stand alone high performance situation because of compatability, size, and noise. I think you will find lots of people on AT willing to recommend onboard graphics for certain applications.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: dyslexsick
ive been reading different posts and everyone agrees that mobo integrated video sucks. with mine im getting 100 frames per second so i cant justify getting a video card. also Counter Strike is the only game i play im not a big gamer.why is it your opinion that onboard video sucks? is there something besides the FPS that i should be concerned about?

If counter strike is the only game you play then you do not need to upgrade. All wise computer users SHOULD NEVER BUY any new product unless they have a use for it (or they are stupid enough to throw money away). However, with that said, if you decide to play CAll of Duty, Unreal 2/Tournament 2003, Need for Speed: Underground, you'll find yourself playing at 800x600 or lower with low detail settings. Also people with faster videocards use anisotropic filtering and anti-aliasing which significantly improve the eye candy in a game. Since you like first person shooters I dont see why you are not interested in playing the most recent ones. Once doom 3 and half-life 2 come out you'll be lucky if you get 10FPS with the lowest possible settings on.

Until a game you want to play doesn't begin to be limited by your videocard severely, your onboard video solution is just fine.

 

[Cerb]

100 FPS? You're not using high detail, no AA/AF, and you're not at a decent resolution. Period.
My GF4 Ti 4200 (300/600) couldn't do 100 FPS doing anything but PSX emulation. A GF4 MX using shared RAM surely isn't.
And counter-strike is hardly limited by the video card for anything above a Voodoo3.

 

[DeRusto]

Originally posted by: Cerb
100 FPS? You're not using high detail, no AA/AF, and you're not at a decent resolution. Period.
My GF4 Ti 4200 (300/600) couldn't do 100 FPS doing anything but PSX emulation. A GF4 MX using shared RAM surely isn't.
And counter-strike is hardly limited by the video card for anything above a Voodoo3.

My GF2MX got 100FPS in Counter-strike at 1024x768 and all settings at max...well, except AA...

 

[Crashman]

My video card supporst DX9 for more realistic features. Also I can play at higher resolutions for a more realistic picture. Onboard video can usually play fine if you don't mind your game looking like some old Nintendo 64 crap.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: DeRusto

Originally posted by: Cerb
100 FPS? You're not using high detail, no AA/AF, and you're not at a decent resolution. Period.
My GF4 Ti 4200 (300/600) couldn't do 100 FPS doing anything but PSX emulation. A GF4 MX using shared RAM surely isn't.
And counter-strike is hardly limited by the video card for anything above a Voodoo3.

My GF2MX got 100FPS in Counter-strike at 1024x768 and all settings at max...well, except AA...

W/ a GF4 at 300/600, my minimum is 1024x768, quincux and 2x AF. Raise the AF if there was performance to spare.
W/ my GF2, it was 640x480 2x AA , and previously 800x600 1.5x AA (until they removed 1.5x from the drivers).
If you want a decent image, you can't get 100FPS. With CS, it is impossible to get a good image .

 

[DeRusto]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: DeRusto

Originally posted by: Cerb
100 FPS? You're not using high detail, no AA/AF, and you're not at a decent resolution. Period.
My GF4 Ti 4200 (300/600) couldn't do 100 FPS doing anything but PSX emulation. A GF4 MX using shared RAM surely isn't.
And counter-strike is hardly limited by the video card for anything above a Voodoo3.

My GF2MX got 100FPS in Counter-strike at 1024x768 and all settings at max...well, except AA...

W/ a GF4 at 300/600, my minimum is 1024x768, quincux and 2x AF. Raise the AF if there was performance to spare.
W/ my GF2, it was 640x480 2x AA , and previously 800x600 1.5x AA (until they removed 1.5x from the drivers).
If you want a decent image, you can't get 100FPS. With CS, it is impossible to get a good image .

I will agree with you there