why doesnt everyone just pay the same amount of tax?

[brianmanahan]

it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.

likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.

 

[buckshot24]

it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.

likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.

The same percentage of wages or the same percentage of the budget?

 

[Doppel]

The simple fact is a "fair" tax system in which we all paid the same would particularly suck for people of less means. It's also extremely hard to identify how much we all benefit from taxes. You use a road, but if I own a trucking company I use it a lot more than you do.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Awww... did someone just get out of a third grade math class and is now trying out his new abilities on his worldview?

How cute.

 

[boomerang]

Would 'everybody' include illegal aliens or would they get special treatment? How about those incapable of work? Permanent disabilities are skyrocketing these days. Children?

There hasn't been a budget passed since 2009. Does this mean we owe nothing?

 

[frowertr]

Screw any kind of income tax. Go to a flat sales tax. Illegals can't escape that.

 

[Jhhnn]

Screw any kind of income tax. Go to a flat sales tax. Illegals can't escape that.

Would that tax cover real estate, stocks & bonds, businesses, currency trading, paid up life insurance & so forth?

Or are taxes really just for the little people?

Here's what a tax on all transactions would look like-

http://www.apttax.com/

 

[Incorruptible]

Because some idiots want the government to redistribute the wealth and steal from the evil rich to give to the poor.

There should be a flat tax which would be much better.

 

[ThinClient]

it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.

likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.

Fair or not, this country couldn't afford a flat tax.

 

[Anarchist420]

it only seems fair if you think about it.

Theft is unjust.

It's also extremely hard to identify how much we all benefit from taxes.

The power elite and Wall Street benefits the most from taxation.

If there was no way to enforce IP, then Microsoft would've been a small business vulnerable to failure.

That said, the Declaration of Market should be something like: businesses are instituted among men and when they have benefited from govt, it is the natural right of the market to let those business fold and to institute new businesses.

 

[shira]

it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.

likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.

Um, your "equation" doesn't produce a percentage. It produces a per-capita number of dollars. And with this "proof" of your mathematical prowess you're giving us tax recommendations?

 

[waggy]

it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.

likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.

what a idiotic idea.

 

[brianmanahan]

The same percentage of wages or the same percentage of the budget?

the same amount of dollars

ie we all pay 10$k or whatever

 

[brianmanahan]

Um, your "equation" doesn't produce a percentage. It produces a per-capita number of dollars. And with this "proof" of your mathematical prowess you're giving us tax recommendations?

no, you don't understand - i am talking that everyone pays the same percentage of the budget. 1/300*10^6th of the budget.

 

[shira]

no, you don't understand - i am talking that everyone pays the same percentage of the budget. 1/300*10^6th of the budget.

So, an unemployed person receives a tax bill of $3300? And if he's the sole breadwinner of a family of four, his tax bill is $13,200?

Sounds totally fair to me.

 

[Brigandier]

no, you don't understand - i am talking that everyone pays the same percentage of the budget. 1/300*10^6th of the budget.

Do you honestly not see the problem with that?

 

[brianmanahan]

So, an unemployed person receives a tax bill of $3300? And if he's the sole breadwinner of a family of four, his tax bill is $13,200?

Sounds totally fair to me.

he receives just about as much benefit from the govt as i do, shouldnt we all pay the same price?

 

[brycejones]

he receives just about as much benefit from the govt as i do, shouldnt we all pay the same price?

And if someone can't pay?

 

[ThinClient]

the same amount of dollars

ie we all pay 10$k or whatever

wtf?

Are you in grade school?


...have you ever taken a college econ class or done any advanced projects at the high school econ level?



... do you pay $10k in taxes each year right now? Would you fucking WANT to?

 

[JulesMaximus]

And if someone can't pay?

Throw their worthless ass in jail. It's the 'Murican way.

 

[ThinClient]

Throw their worthless ass in jail. It's the 'Murican way.

take their house and their stuff and then set them on fire

 

[brianmanahan]

... do you pay $10k in taxes each year right now? Would you f****g WANT to?

sure i would, i have paid like 15$k already this year i think

maybe not, i dunno, i lose track

 

[Capt Caveman]

the same amount of dollars

ie we all pay 10$k or whatever

:biggrin: Yeah, that's fair! Sad thing is you're not trolling. Just fat and stupid.

 

[alkemyst]

:biggrin: Yeah, that's fair! Sad thing is you're not trolling. Just fat and stupid.

QFT

 

[Doppel]

no, you don't understand - i am talking that everyone pays the same percentage of the budget. 1/300*10^6th of the budget.

300M americans, budget is 3.5 trillion. That's $10k/person. If a family currently makes $40k and has 4 kids how exactly are they going to find $60k/year for taxes?